July 4 - A time to mourn and weep.

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Default July 4 - A time to mourn and weep.

No celebrations...
Not until blood runs in the streets, from a revolution to restore the Constitution of the United States of America.

The Constitution has been under attack for at least 30 years.
I saw a link to an article, over the week end, that congress was poised with legislation, to make a direct assault on the Constitution.
I failed to read it, and not long ago, I would have dismissed the idea.
The idea is very plausible, today.

Liberals have taxed and regulated many jobs off shore, so the future looks bleak.

Liberals have bankrupted this country and led employers to seek cheap labor.
Illegal aliens are given preferential treatment, while citizens are harassed all too often.

There are many stories that get brief exposure, then you hear no more.
One such was the military exercises in residential neighborhoods in Indianapolis, a few weeks ago.

I am under the impression that UN troops are here, and would have no problem shooting citizens on site, under martial law.

There are enough things going on, right now, that martial law in the USA, looks likely.

But, in all likelihood, I am completely off base...
Either way, I am without power to do much of anything about it.

So, no celebration for me, for the freedoms that we once enjoyed.

Thank a liberal.
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My original response consisted of only two words. The first was "bull". I'll leave you to guess what the second one was.

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I saw a link to an article, over the week end, that congress was poised with legislation, to make a direct assault on the Constitution.
I failed to read it
So let me get this straight... you saw only a link to an article, which you didn't bother to read? So you can't tell me what it said? You can't tell me what the source is, or if this source was credible in any way, whatsoever?

Liberals have taxed and regulated many jobs off shore, so the future looks bleak.
Really? Companies didn't decide to outsource the jobs on their own for the sake of increasing their profit margin? And neither side could offer them incentive not to do this?

Liberals have bankrupted this country
I was no fan of Clinton, but he actually was quite the frugal spender. Now, let's see... massive monetary loans which have essentially put this country in the pockets of China and Japan.. yep, that was the Neo-Cons. $12 billion/month on the war in Iraq... again, there's your Neo-Cons. The US Dollar falling to an all-time low in the world market?

and led employers to seek cheap labor.
Employers have historically sought out cheap labour. Look at the Chinese migrants brought in to build the first railroad across the United States.

Illegal aliens are given preferential treatment, while citizens are harassed all too often.
How many citizens are at risk of being deported? Perhaps if border security had actually taken seriously by either party, then there wouldn't be so many illegals in this country, that the government would be forced to grant amnesty.

One such was the military exercises in residential neighborhoods in Indianapolis, a few weeks ago.
So, tell me? Was this the Indiana National Guard, or the federal military? And what was the extent of these military exercises? Or was this some overzealous conspiracy theorist who freaked out at the sight of a military convoy outside of the cantonment area?

I am under the impression that UN troops are here, and would have no problem shooting citizens on site, under martial law.
Where do you get this load of crap from? Do you have any idea just how many troops it would actually require to occupy the US? Factor that in with the fact that most military forces have undergone serious cutbacks in their forces since the end of the Cold War, and you really have no plausibility behind this claim.

There are enough things going on, right now, that martial law in the USA, looks likely.
Then give examples. What's going on that makes martial law such an imminent threat? "Things" is not a very good explanation. Black helicopters? Anonymous men in black suits? Is it the Illuminati?

 
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Originally Posted by BigDiesel
Liberalism is a mental disorder....
JESUS was a Liberal!! So.... you think He was a NUT?? :shock:

As a good, God fearing, Moral Majoritist Neo-Con.... you have just signed your own "death warrant." See you in Hell, Pal! :lol: :lol:

JEFF: Thanks for saying almost everything I was thinking! It is a blessing to hear from a Military man, who has given more than enough for this country, some amount of defense for the Democratic ideals that are cherished mostly by the Left!

Although I agree that the Constitution is under siege..... IMHO, it is being attacked by both sides.... but more heavily from the RIGHT! :roll:

There will be no revolution in the streets of America.... a simple ELECTION will do the trick! The sooner we get Dubya out of office, the sooner our freedoms will be restored!
 
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Although I agree that the Constitution is under siege..... IMHO, it is being attacked by both sides...
Agree with you on that.

but more heavily from the RIGHT!
I don't agree with that part though.

IMHO it is being equally attacked by all sides just in different ways.
 
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Originally Posted by BigDiesel
Liberalism is a mental disorder....
Ahh, a Savage fan. :wink:

Originally Posted by golfhobo
JESUS was a Liberal!! So.... you think He was a NUT?? :shock:

As a good, God fearing, Moral Majoritist Neo-Con.... you have just signed your own "death warrant." See you in Hell, Pal! :lol: :lol:
Actually Jesus was more libertarian. He had a lot of contempt for tax collectors. :lol: He also said that the poor will always be with us, a fact the modern liberals deny. By socializing and redistributing wealth you create more poor people, not fewer. There will always be people who are poorer than others. :wink:
 
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Originally Posted by Uturn2001
Although I agree that the Constitution is under siege..... IMHO, it is being attacked by both sides...
Agree with you on that.

but more heavily from the RIGHT!
I don't agree with that part though.

IMHO it is being equally attacked by all sides just in different ways.
No problem, Uturn.. We ALL have the right to disagree! But.... please give me your thoughts and rationalizations concerning...

1) The Patriot Act....vs. the 4th Ammendment.

2) The (proposed) Defense of Marriage Ammendment vs. the Separation of church and State clause (assuming it exists... and without debate about its existence.) Does this not give tax breaks to those who conform to religious beliefs concerning a "marriage" or "bond" between two people?

3) The SECOND time, both by Republican administrations, that Illegals have been or will be "amnesticized" in contradiction to the Constitutional description of an American Citizen?

4) The abuse of the "Executive Privilege" provision to thwart oversight by the Congress, a purpose delineated in the Constitution as a Right and responsibility of the Congressional branch of our 3 level form of government.

5) Tax breaks for ONLY the richest in America at a time that the same administration is putting us ALL in debt for a WAR (without debating the legality of the war.) And.... IMHO.... in direct conflict with the 14th which gives "equal protection."

6) The attempt by this administration to hold "illegal combattants" in foreign countries for no other reason than to skirt both the Habeus Corpus law in the Constitution AND the Geneva Convention so that they can be tortured into providing information, while denying that we engage in torture! (An act that has now been struck down by the Supremes.)

7) ANY.... attack on the Constitution by the Democrats! (with the possible exception of the 2nd Ammendment debate, which has been discussed elsewhere, and I suppose.... has been "decided." But, you CAN mention this if that's ALL you have! :roll:

I am REALLY interested to hear your case that the LEFT is assaulting the Constitution... and in what way.

Please be specific and include cases or references to the Laws of the land.

I look forward to your response, as I have always respected you and your opinions.
 
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