What Windwalker said.

 

Amazing :roll: Why anyone would want to go through all that to save $3.00 is beyond me.

There is only one toll when you exit 294 N on to 80 W, then it is clear sailing to 55, except for the scale on I55 S of 53.

Then again, I always stay on 294 and take it to 55 as it is shorter and quicker, but having IPASS makes it a lot easier.

 

First of all, WHERE ON THE IL TOLL SYSTEM DO YOU FIND A $3.00 TOLL?????

The last time I went across I-80, the one toll was over $4.00 at night. I understand that during "peak hours", the toll is over $5.00. (This toll WAS $0.90 before.) Now, think about OH back in '98 when they raised their toll by a WHOPPING 93%. Most companies pulled their trucks OFF THE TOLL ROAD. I had to put on more miles and put up with towns and speed zones or pay the toll myself. OH finally got the message, and look at the toll road today.

IL operated the toll road for years, and maintained it. But they failed to authorize anyone to spend the money they collected, so there was a bank account with BILLIONS OF DOLLARS just sitting there. When they made the changes needed to be authorized to spend the money they collected, they also raised the tolls by 400% and 500%, and more.. And, we're supposed to accept that? KISS MY GRITS :!:

IN has "leased" their toll road to a group in Spain and Austria because they have a project they want to fund costing nearly 200 million. The term of the lease is 20 years. But, what will they do if they come up with another project in 10 years that will cost more than they have? Invent another toll road? I-80 is already spoken for.

PA has come up short financially. Their answer to the money crunch? MAKE I-80 A TOLL ROAD... The first year, it will cost a truck $125 to go the length of I-80 in PA. The second year, it will be $250. That gets tacked on to the "COST OF DELIVERY" to other areas like NYC, and North Jersey, and even CT and MA. PA plans to cover they own MIS-MANAGEMENT on the backs of people that have NO REPRESENTATION IN THEIR STATE. People in NY, NJ, CT, and MA will be paying the extra, and that's not even beginning to look at the companies in the mid-west that will be paying more for materials imported through the NYC Ports. Suddenly, other ports like Baltimore, Norfolk, Savannah, Mobile, and even the ports in FL become more competitive, and more attractive. The northeast stands to lose business, and have their economy adversely affected. But PA doesn't care about that. They have to cover their own financial butt. They have already gone through the first steps to put tolls on I-80.

Virtually every state that has a financial problem is looking at putting tolls in. Even WY is considering putting tolls on I-80. So, been a bit short-sighted with your finances, PUT IN A TOLL ROAD.

WRONG :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

We have to be RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ACTIONS. If we rob a bank because we come up short on cash, we go to jail. But, if they come up short, they simply arrange to TAKE FROM US. It's a matter of principle. If they mis-manage their finances, THEY must fix it. Not let the deficit ride on the back of the rest of the country.

IF TOLL ROADS ARE NOT PROFITABLE, THEY WILL REALIZE THAT TOLL ROADS ARE NOT A "FIX-ALL".
I do not have representation in any of their states. What gives them the right to "tax" me :?: :?: :?:

 

Just recently, OH was holding hearings in Toledo about raising the tolls on the turnpike by about 3%. The companies, nearly all of them, told OH that if they raised the tolls, they (the companies) would pull their trucks back off the toll road. BUT THESE SAME COMPANIES WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE CHICAGO AND PAY 500% MORE IN TOLLS?????

Not me. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If the trucking industry will not let OH raise their tolls, than the same goes for IL.

 

The toll on I-80 is $3.00. I'm with you on these toll roads Windwalker. My company pays the tolls by way of reimbursement but it still makes me sick. Like that toll on I-80. How convenient that they made a few miles of I-80 part of I-294 so they can charge everyone that's just passing through a toll, not to mention jam traffic all up because we have to stop at the toll plaza. That's real bs there. Then there's our deal up here in New York. The tolls on the Thruway were supposed to have ended in the mid-nineties I believe but that never happened. Not only never happened but they continue to raise the tolls. 10% several months ago, another 5% soon and another 5% down the road. The Thruway Authority did this even with total opposition from the state government. Another thing is they still charge by height and length. What the hell does that have to do with anything. They charge more if you pulling a 53' than a 48'. It's the same weight and number of axles but for some reason they need to charge differently. Then there's another thing, because a couple towns hate these trucks that are going through their town that have garbage in the trailers headed to the landfill they have managed to get the state to propose not allowing ANY trucks off the interstate system unless it's for picking up and delivering, basically forcing them on to the toll road until they get to the closest point to their destination, adding many miles to the trip. There's no end in sight :?

 

I have a question for you windwalker. Are you against a new road being constructed if it will need to be a toll road? I am with you on the "governments want to waste money faster so they toll existing roads" thing but what about a new highway?

 

Here, look for yourself

http://www.illinoistollway.com/porta..._schema=PORTAL

Most fly by night O/O's pulled their trucks off, but the profitable companies got IPASS and kept using it. The company I drove for at the time raised their rates to cover the increase and kept the trucks moving.

Even today there are plenty of trucks on the Tollway system. Just because you couldn't negotiate a rate increase doesn't mean nobody else could. Time is money, if you want to spend hours in traffic to save a few bucks I have one thing to say, sucks to be you.:P

B.S. They did spend money on it, and hadn't raised the rates for years. It got to the point they needed to do a complete rehab and wanted to implement open road tolling, so they raised the rates. That open road tolling is the best thing they ever did, if you have IPASS, you never slow down.



If you notice, the part where 294 and 80 run together is newly rebuilt, for that matter, it all new from there east to the IN border. You can thank the IL toll system for that, as if we waited for the IL Dot to fix it it would be in the shape most of 80 wet from there is.

As far as stopping to pay the toll, who does that any more? Get an IPASS and you breeze right through. I look at all the OTR trucks sitting in line digging for money every time I go through an IPASS lane wondering why they waste their time, especially when they get paid by the mile. Ironic, isn't it? We get paid by the hour, so the boss wants us to not sit, as it costs him money, yet your company doesn't care how long you sit because it doesn't cost them a dime in extra labor. :lol:

 

I gotta admit...since they finished 294/80...and implemented the "high speed fly by" I-Pass lanes, it is a rare occassion to have any traffic in that area anymore. The road almost moves to fast. Just thinking back when the construction on that stretch was in progress, WOW was that a pain in the you know what. Now if they will just get the rest of it finished...only a few small stretches of 294 arent under construction, and what is it around 'Half Day" on I-94 to the Wisconsin line is under construction. Hopefully it will be completed in short order.

 

Ok. I'll admit yhat on the way up there I was a total coward and did not follow any of the suggested routes.

I took I-65N to 80W and went all the way over to 55N to avoid the tolls on 355N. I paid $3.00 going across 80 to 55.

On the way back however, I took a significantly different route.

I went from 55S to IL113East which immediately turns to 113S. I took that to Kankakee, IL where it rus into IL17 East. It was pretty slow going through all of the small towns with the slow speeds, stoplights and whatnot. After crossing into Indiana IL17 turned into SR2. I had to make a left turn onto 41N and a right turn into the town of Lowell and I finally made it to I-65 at Hebron, IN (Exit 230).

After it was all said and done I still made it back in pretty good time. I clocked inat 4:35am and clocked out at 2:23pm