Bush wants money back from wounded soldiers!

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Old 11-20-2007, 12:46 PM
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I suppose THIS is how the Bush Administration SUPPORTS our troops, while condescendingly insinuating that Democrats WON'T!!

http://kdka.com/kdkainvestigators/mi....2.571660.html

"The U.S. Military is demanding that thousands of wounded service personnel give back signing bonuses because they are unable to serve out their commitments.

To get people to sign up, the military gives enlistment bonuses up to $30,000 in some cases.

Now men and women who have lost arms, legs, eyesight, hearing and can no longer serve are being ordered to pay some of that money back.

One of them is Jordan Fox, a young soldier from the South Hills.

He finds solace in the hundreds of boxes he loads onto a truck in Carnegie. In each box is a care package that will be sent to a man or woman serving in Iraq. It was in his name Operation Pittsburgh Pride was started.

Fox was seriously injured when a roadside bomb blew up his vehicle. He was knocked unconscious. His back was injured and lost all vision in his right eye.

A few months later Fox was sent home. His injuries prohibited him from fulfilling three months of his commitment. A few days ago, he received a letter from the military demanding nearly $3,000 of his signing bonus back...."
I'm so SICK of this "excuse" for a President! He gives Millions (if not billions) of dollars in "no-bid contracts" to Halliburton, and then wants a few thousand back from a wounded VET!! (And ALL wounded vets!) And then has the CAJONES to insinuate that the Dems won't support our troops! :shock:

If any of YOU are part of the dwindling 30% of Americans who still SUPPORT this idiot/criminal..... you should be ASHAMED of yourselves.... and should seriously consider sterilization before it's TOO LATE! :shock:
 
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You and this article are full of it... so they do not get bonuses for the jobs they cannot do. This does not mean that they are not compensated for their injuries or their disabilities .. more Bushophobia and crying from the same old source.
 
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That is a broad leap you've made to accuse Bush specifically of doing this (and yes, you did it, in the title of your thread). Seems that it is the US Military doing it, and it probably is written in the agreement that each enlisted man signs prior to receiving a penny.
 
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And now it is time for the rest of the story:
http://kdka.com/local/Iraq.veteran.b....2.592432.html
Updated today. Saw it on the five o'clock news.
 
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Originally Posted by Fozzy
You and this article are full of it... so they do not get bonuses for the jobs they cannot do. This does not mean that they are not compensated for their injuries or their disabilities .. more Bushophobia and crying from the same old source.
Well... I heard it first on FOX NEWS.... so it HAS to be "Fair and Balanced" right? The bonuses were NOT offered for completing a "job." They were enlistment or re-enlistment bonuses offered just to get them BACK into the war! Furthermore..... there have been multiple stories lately on ALL news networks, of returning vets who are not getting proper treatment!

So, YOU.... Fozzy.... are full of it! THIS particular case is not EVEN the one I heard all weekend about the guy who was rated as ONLY 10% disability ( which "I" have for NOTHING!) who had massive brain trauma from an IED!! Are you friggin BLIND??? Or just stupidly stubborn??

Again.... I must say I HOPE your son returns HEALTHY, and in NO WAY dependant on the BROKEN system of the V.A.!!! I'd hate to hear you sing a different TUNE!! It just wouldn't be YOU! :shock: :roll:
 
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
That is a broad leap you've made to accuse Bush specifically of doing this (and yes, you did it, in the title of your thread). Seems that it is the US Military doing it, and it probably is written in the agreement that each enlisted man signs prior to receiving a penny.
You're DAMM RIGHT I did! He is the Commander in Chief of our military! He has politicked on his being a "Wartime President." He has overridden every attempt by the Democratic led Congress to control his actions. He IS responsible for this war AND the treatment of its Veterans! [And, as I said, he continues to accuse Dems of NOT supporting our TROOPS.... just because they don't support HIS war!]

I don't KNOW what is in the fine print, anymore than YOU do, but I know what should NOT be in the fine print.... and that is a renegging clause!

If a man/woman is offered an incentive to re-enlist in the military (specifically to go to Iraq,) and is injured/killed in that effort (what a shock THAT could happen) he/she has to PAY BACK part of that bonus??? I've NEVER heard of this in my entire LIFE, let alone my military career (during which I WAS offered a re-enlistment bonus.)

The ONLY thing that surprises me about this.... is that (even with 70% of Americans against the war, and a like number of Republicans in Congress who are showing a tendency towards "defection,") is that I actually heard it on the MOUTHPIECE of the Bush Administration.... FOX NEWS!!

Perhaps, O'Reilly is wrong! The media may NOT be as "biased" as he has stated!
 
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
That is a broad leap you've made to accuse Bush specifically of doing this (and yes, you did it, in the title of your thread). Seems that it is the US Military doing it, and it probably is written in the agreement that each enlisted man signs prior to receiving a penny.
You're DAMM RIGHT I did! He is the Commander in Chief of our military! He has politicked on his being a "Wartime President." He has overridden every attempt by the Democratic led Congress to control his actions. He IS responsible for this war AND the treatment of its Veterans! [And, as I said, he continues to accuse Dems of NOT supporting our TROOPS.... just because they don't support HIS war!]

I don't KNOW what is in the fine print, anymore than YOU do, but I know what should NOT be in the fine print.... and that is a renegging clause!

If a man/woman is offered an incentive to re-enlist in the military (specifically to go to Iraq,) and is injured/killed in that effort (what a shock THAT could happen) he/she has to PAY BACK part of that bonus??? I've NEVER heard of this in my entire LIFE, let alone my military career (during which I WAS offered a re-enlistment bonus.)

The ONLY thing that surprises me about this.... is that (even with 70% of Americans against the war, and a like number of Republicans in Congress who are showing a tendency towards "defection,") is that I actually heard it on the MOUTHPIECE of the Bush Administration.... FOX NEWS!!

Perhaps, O'Reilly is wrong! The media may NOT be as "biased" as he has stated!
Throw Tantrums much? it's just more Bush hate.. I realize that you wake every morning, bound out to the kitchen and eagerly look for the turd in the cereal box.. but sheesh!
 
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Originally Posted by Double R
And now it is time for the rest of the story:

http://kdka.com/local/Iraq.veteran.b....2.592432.html

Updated today. Saw it on the five o'clock news.
And NONE of this alters the FACTS! In fact, they are still not even accepting any BLAME! They are saying.... "well, um.... we'll look INTO it!" They are covering their butts because they got caught!! :roll:

Major Nathan Banks, Army spokesperson: "We are. We are ... definitely working it out. We have seen where the problems have been made, the system, and we're just making - you know, give us the opportunity to make a wrong a right." [Um.... stumble over your apologies much?]

The Pentagon will not comment on allegations that thousands of other soldiers just sent home from Iraq and other invasions, including Afghanistan, will not receive these sorts of bills. They cannot comment on those cases.
Talk about adding INSULT to INJURY!!!! And the fact that they plead IGNORANCE is supposed to give me solace?? That's what we need.... more IGNORANT people in charge of the WAR... and the AFTERMATH for our Veterans!

The WAR was illegal, because the PREMISE for the war was illegally "coerced" by our President from our CIA Director... Voted for by a Congress that was LIED to... The Conduct of the war was incompetent! .... The aftermath of the war, in Iraq, was not even CONSIDERED by this administration, and has been poorly managed ever since.

IF the "surge" has worked in ANY way (mostly because the Sunnis have NOW been armed BY THE U.S. to patrol their own neighborhoods,) I can ONLY wonder WHAT took this President, his Sec of Defense, and his Generals 5 YEARS and nearly 4,000 dead to figure OUT??

And the result is that we MAY someday have changed a regime in an oil rich country like Iraq..... while Bin Laden and his Al Quaida network thrive on the border of one of our ALLIES?? Somehow, this is supposed to make ME (and YOU) feel SAFER???

Our country is nearly bankrupt.... and heavily in debt to an ENEMY nation (china) for a war we have not won, NONE of our objectives (save the elimination of a dictator) have been accomplished.... at the cost of nearly 4,000 brave American soldiers, and the perpetrators of 9/11 are being all but protected by one of our allies..... we are on the brink of yet ANOTHER war with Iran over nuclear weapons that we CANNOT prove exist or ever WILL!

You want to talk about the "REST of the Story??" Bring it on!! I haven't even BEGUN to list the abject FAILINGS of this President and his administration! There are so many, I don't even know where to START! But, I take PERSONAL offense to his LIES about caring for the wounded Vets, while allowing such a "recompensation" policy to stand!

Of ALL the unmitigated GALL.... to ask a wounded Vet to repay part of his enlistement bonus..... when MILLIONS are being wasted by Halliburton!!
 
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It does not look like anyone here is saying that something is not totally screwed up with the system somewhere. The argument against this is the blaming of one individual for this screwup when there has been no evidence given showing where Bush, or anyone in the Executive Office, is responsible or even knew about this before it hit the media.

I do not know if you ever were in the military, but there is one little fact. All too often the pinky does not know what the thumb is doing on the same hand.

It would not surprise me one bit if these letters were computer generated and the program used was very basic and the criteria for generating a letter demanding reimbursement of the enlistment bonus was simply not completing the tour, period. No thought given as to legit reasons for not completing the tour and added to the program.
 
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Originally Posted by Uturn2001
It does not look like anyone here is saying that something is not totally screwed up with the system somewhere. The argument against this is the blaming of one individual for this screwup when there has been no evidence given showing where Bush, or anyone in the Executive Office, is responsible or even knew about this before it hit the media.

I do not know if you ever were in the military, but there is one little fact. All too often the pinky does not know what the thumb is doing on the same hand.

It would not surprise me one bit if these letters were computer generated and the program used was very basic and the criteria for generating a letter demanding reimbursement of the enlistment bonus was simply not completing the tour, period. No thought given as to legit reasons for not completing the tour and added to the program.
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