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Old 10-21-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default THANK A DEMOCRAT!! Illegals OK'd to drive in N.Y.

A big reason WHY we should not allow a Democrat in the White House.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/...110200052/1001

New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer has started a major political fight over immigration by ordering state officials to issue driver's licenses to illegal aliens, prompting at least one county legislature to defy the executive order and pushing toward a showdown in court.

The embattled governor's order has drawn some acerbic commentary, including a cartoon showing Osama bin Laden as a New York City taxi driver. After spending months trying to deflect charges that he used state police to target the Republican leader of the state Senate, Mr. Spitzer appears eager for a fight over this contentious issue.

"The rabid right that wants to pile on and use this to demagogue the issue will not carry the day in New York state," he said recently. "Those who view this as a political issue once again are taking the state in the wrong direction."

The driver's license issue has once again put the governor at odds with New Yorkers. When New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, who inJune abandoned the Republican Party, criticized the order recently, the Democratic governor shot back that the mayor was "dead wrong, factually wrong, legally wrong, morally wrong, ethically wrong."

Former New York City Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani joined the list of opponents this week. "Governor Spitzer should not give licenses to illegals," he told the Republican Jewish Coalition on Tuesday. "It doesn't make sense."

The issue heated up late last week, when the Monroe County legislature defied the governor and ordered its county clerk to require anyone seeking a driver's license to provide a valid Social Security number. The decision runs counter to Mr. Spitzer's order, in which illegal aliens with valid foreign passports would be eligible to obtain a state driver's license.

Again, Mr. Spitzer was defiant: "I hate to say it — the clerks have to enforce it," he said. "The clerks who issue driver's licenses are agents of the state. They do not make state law on this. State government does."

In another move, 29 clerks, all but one a Republican, voted to oppose the plan, with 13 vowing to directly disobey the governor, even if ordered to comply. The clerks said their offices would be hard-pressed to determine the legality of applicants.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:21 PM
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I personally think any Gov., Mayor or state legislator or city council that urges the violation of federal law should be arrested by the US Marshalls Office, handcuffed and carted off to jail.
But Bush & Co., including the previously Republican controlled Congress, also refused and continue to refuse to enforce immigration laws or protect the borders, so I am wondering if it will really make any difference who is in office.
All the politicans are bought and paid for by corporate America and Washington lobbyists. And corporate America wants cheap labor. So cheap labor they will have.

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Old 10-21-2007, 11:46 PM
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The article doesn't say why Spitzer thinks it's a good idea. And the opponents don't say why they think it's a bad idea.

I heard one radio show host say that at least they could buy insurance. As it is, if they're driving, they're driving around without insurance.

But some of what the opponents said doesn't make sense at all:

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"It's a perfect formula for al Qaeda. They won't be able to resist it. They will be able to come to New York," he said.
Is this guy kidding? Does he really think that prohibiting alQaeda from getting a DL is keeping them out?
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: THANK A DEMOCRAT!! Illegals OK'd to drive in N.Y.

If george bush had his way they would all have national IDs..

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A big reason WHY we should not allow a Democrat in the White House.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/...110200052/1001

New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer has started a major political fight over immigration by ordering state officials to issue driver's licenses to illegal aliens, prompting at least one county legislature to defy the executive order and pushing toward a showdown in court.

The embattled governor's order has drawn some acerbic commentary, including a cartoon showing Osama bin Laden as a New York City taxi driver. After spending months trying to deflect charges that he used state police to target the Republican leader of the state Senate, Mr. Spitzer appears eager for a fight over this contentious issue.

"The rabid right that wants to pile on and use this to demagogue the issue will not carry the day in New York state," he said recently. "Those who view this as a political issue once again are taking the state in the wrong direction."

The driver's license issue has once again put the governor at odds with New Yorkers. When New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, who inJune abandoned the Republican Party, criticized the order recently, the Democratic governor shot back that the mayor was "dead wrong, factually wrong, legally wrong, morally wrong, ethically wrong."

Former New York City Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani joined the list of opponents this week. "Governor Spitzer should not give licenses to illegals," he told the Republican Jewish Coalition on Tuesday. "It doesn't make sense."

The issue heated up late last week, when the Monroe County legislature defied the governor and ordered its county clerk to require anyone seeking a driver's license to provide a valid Social Security number. The decision runs counter to Mr. Spitzer's order, in which illegal aliens with valid foreign passports would be eligible to obtain a state driver's license.

Again, Mr. Spitzer was defiant: "I hate to say it — the clerks have to enforce it," he said. "The clerks who issue driver's licenses are agents of the state. They do not make state law on this. State government does."

In another move, 29 clerks, all but one a Republican, voted to oppose the plan, with 13 vowing to directly disobey the governor, even if ordered to comply. The clerks said their offices would be hard-pressed to determine the legality of applicants.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:52 PM
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democrat, republican, independant, doesn't realy mater. sure the republican party is more coservative but that doesn't meen all the issues they support will be the same, some repulicans support illegals some don't. Some are a little left some are right down the middle. Politics are tricky becuse public opinion affects all parties
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:55 PM
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When they come in to get their license bring them out back and put them on the bus to deport them. Too many people have struggled too hardand sacrificed too much to become legal citizens to allow those that don't follow the rules to be rewarded.
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:10 PM
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Wouldn't that allow the illegals to vote?
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:41 PM
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Well said, it amazes me how our politicians want to cheapen our citizenship.


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When they come in to get their license bring them out back and put them on the bus to deport them. Too many people have struggled too hardand sacrificed too much to become legal citizens to allow those that don't follow the rules to be rewarded.
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:34 AM
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I'm ashamed to live in this state - home to Hillary and that idiot Spitzer. The good news is Spitzer's approval rating has dropped like a rock since he was elected last year. Not only for this but he used the state police to investigate a political rival. So if we elect Hillary prez they should both be gone pretty soon.
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:50 PM
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They want to let them vote that would be how they think, both sides.
More votes.
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