are lever binders illegal?
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Originally Posted by terrylamar
This only applies to US Fish and Wildlife employees. I cannot find any regulation that applies to Motor Carriers that prohibit the use of snap/lever binders. I am most interested because TMC issues snap binders and I make extensive use of them. They are dangerous when improperly used. I personally have never had a problem with them.
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1.2 To whom do these chapters apply? The chapters in Part 243 apply to Service employees and volunteers who operate motorized vehicles and equipment and their project leaders and supervisors.
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I'm a Tanker guy, but boomers are used here in Canada, after tightening, they must be tied off with wire, as far as I know...
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Well the guy's that I see around the yard and wherever, crank the boomer tight with a snipe, then slap the boomer handle with the snipe, keeping anything "important" out of the way, they use a double piece of wire to tie the handle closed. Repeat, and rinse.... :wink:
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Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
Well if that is true Uturn and Terry, then several DOT guys in VA are playing by their own rules.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
Well if that is true Uturn and Terry, then several DOT guys in VA are playing by their own rules.
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Thanks for everyone's comments. I sent this question to the Colorado State Patrol Motor Carrier Safety department and this is the response that I received:
"Thank you for your question regarding load binders. I would like to speak with you regarding this question so please contact me at (deleted phone number). In your question I felt that you were refering to "Boomers" which is a securement device that a person has to use a cheater bar to bind. The regulations stating that all tiedowns must be adjustable is 393.112. This regulation states that all tiedowns must be adjustable while the vehicle is in transit. It is my opinion that a "Boomer" is adjustable simply because a driver may adjust it by switching chain loops. In order to tighten the load the CMV must be stopped no matter which binder is being used. Therefore a person can adjust while in transit from point A to point B. I hope this was helpful. Please let me know if you have any questions." Here he says it is "his opinion" that a boomer, or lever-type chain binder, is an adjustable and acceptable tiedown device. However, there is no regulation in the FMCSA rulebook (I just read the whole thing), nor is there any ammendment to a regulation, that states boomers/lever chain binders are illegal or in any way not D.O.T. approved.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
That's cool, I'm going to email VA and see what they say as far as state regs go. If they ain't illegal, they should be, dangerous SOB's when they decide to fight back on you.
IMHO the ratchet type, while not only safer, allows for better load securement as you may be able to tighten that chain just a bit more than the lever type.
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Originally Posted by Uturn2001
Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
That's cool, I'm going to email VA and see what they say as far as state regs go. If they ain't illegal, they should be, dangerous SOB's when they decide to fight back on you.
IMHO the ratchet type, while not only safer, allows for better load securement as you may be able to tighten that chain just a bit more than the lever type.
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