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Old 07-25-2007, 02:47 AM
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I had heard they were getting ready to drop the 14 hr provision as well.
Anybody else heard this?
No, but I'd be surprised if they did, or if they do, they'll just come up with something even worse.

I think the old rules from the 1930s were fine for a long, long, long damn time.
They'll probably make it a 12 (or even 10) hour workday...
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:59 AM
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I propose we throw the log books out along with the hos and drive as long as we feel comfortable and stop when we get tired, like everyone else. Of course, that would involve common sense and put a lot of lawyers out of business with all of these changes to the hos rules. :roll:
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:18 AM
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I propose we throw the log books out along with the hos and drive as long as we feel comfortable and stop when we get tired, like everyone else. Of course, that would involve common sense and put a lot of lawyers out of business with all of these changes to the hos rules. :roll:
Well that's basically what we used to do :P
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:19 AM
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I propose we throw the log books out along with the hos and drive as long as we feel comfortable and stop when we get tired, like everyone else. Of course, that would involve common sense and put a lot of lawyers out of business with all of these changes to the hos rules. :roll:
I'd bet that the accident rate wouldn't move enough to notice. The fools that run tired will run tired regardless of the rules.
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:22 AM
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I find it hilarious that the folks who drive no more than 10 to 20 minutes to commute to work are making the decisions for those who have trained and are capable of driving for hours on end.
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:48 AM
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I propose we throw the log books out along with the hos and drive as long as we feel comfortable and stop when we get tired, like everyone else. Of course, that would involve common sense and put a lot of lawyers out of business with all of these changes to the hos rules. :roll:



oh thats not how it is now?? :wink:
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Old 07-25-2007, 04:21 AM
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I propose we throw the log books out along with the hos and drive as long as we feel comfortable and stop when we get tired, like everyone else. Of course, that would involve common sense and put a lot of lawyers out of business with all of these changes to the hos rules. :roll:
Why can't we just throw out the logbooks and keep the ho's. It isn't their fault somebody changed the rules.
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IMHO the HOS does more to protect the truck driver from the trucking companies than it does to protect the public.

Anyway, if groups like PATT and crash have their way about it the HOS would look something like this:

8 hours of drive time per day.
No driving after the 12th hour.
12 consecutive hours off duty.
48 consecutive hours off every week.
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Old 07-25-2007, 05:15 AM
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IMHO the HOS does more to protect the truck driver from the trucking companies than it does to protect the public.

Anyway, if groups like PATT and crash have their way about it the HOS would look something like this:

8 hours of drive time per day.
No driving after the 12th hour.
12 consecutive hours off duty.
48 consecutive hours off every week.
Outrageous and stating the Obvious it's going to create more trucks than are actually needed and cause more accidents and problems that are necessary.
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Old 07-25-2007, 05:31 AM
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Yoop, you know that and I know that, but do you think there is a snowballs chance in hell of convincing most of these pencil pushing, hankie wringing types of that.

I have seen a handful of studies, both formal and informal, over the last year or two that say drivers feel like they are driving more tired now than they did under the "original" rules.

The same studies have also indicated that under the original revision, before the removal of the flexible split sleeper provision, that drivers felt better rested.

But what do drivers know. They are the ones out there doing the job.
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