Go figure. You relocate the poor, unemployed into an area where there are jobs and what do you get? Poor, unemployed people.
But we have no choice. We have to keep supporting these people even though there is no chance that some of them will ever enter mainstream society.]
Do I resent it? No, not really. I recognize that some people cannot be helped. It is up to those of us who can be productive to support those who cannot - even if the reason for their apparent inadequacy is not readily visible.
Those at the bottom will remain at the bottom. That is why I believe it is a mistake to expand welfare beyond its current limits.

Back to New Orleans?....They ain't no smarter than horses running back to the burning barn.

 

O.k... There are 50 some odd thousand jobs that only require a high school diploma... Do all the people relocated to Houston from LA, have a high school diploma?....

What if they don't have a high school diploma, or can't read, or can't do math well... Or, they have been on welfare for a long time, would you as an employer hire them?...

I know from job hunting myself. I've applied for jobs in the past that I was over qualified for, and still wasn't selected to get the job... Why?...

Often times employers don't want to pay more money for someone who is over qualified. Nevermind if your under qualified...

Just because you walk in the door to a business, and apply for a job, doesn't mean you'll get that job... No business is required to hire the first person that walks through their door...

Honestly, if your an employer, would you hire a LA evacuee, who has been on welfare, is unedcuated, doesn't have a high school diploma, to work for your business?...

I'd like to hear from those of you who own businesses... I'd be curious as to your reply to this question...

I would have to guess that Houstons resources were greatly strained having to take in all the people who came there from LA. So, what do you do with those who came there, without an education, or work history?

You could get them into adult education classes IF, they are even offered in that area... The other problem you have is that the older you are, the more difficult it is to learn new things.

That's why usually kids are taught different languages when they are young, in school. Because simply the brain learns better when your young, then once you've reached adulthood, or even older...

Not that it can't be done, I'm sure, it will just require a lot more effort, and patience on the part of those trying to educate this older population...

Another thing to consider is, where are all those jobs located?... If people relocated, they may not have money to get to areas for job interviews. They may not be able to get transportation to these jobs... Not every job is within an area that has public transportation.

In my state they just announced that there are well over 100,000 unemployed people in my state. There are 80,000 jobs available... The problem here is that those jobs require people educated in those jobs, to be able to get those jobs...

In fact my state is now looking at trying to fix the education system here, because they are realizing that with all the high tech, and PHD type jobs being created, that the population that were born, and raised here, couldn't predict the future, and didn't know that the region was going to create more jobs in fields that would require a much greater education then, they themselves could have predicted.

Not everyone who goes to college is guaranteed a long term career either. The changing industries, and times, will always change what jobs will be available, and what industries will be around once you do get out of college.

I have an uncle who went to college to be a chemical engineer. He got out of college, and found there were no longer any jobs in his area for his particular field.

He had to go back to college, and became a Pharmacist... He opened his own Pharmacy, became very successful, and has now retired early, to go travel the world...

My younger brother had to return to college, because his BA in business, just wasn't enough, and he went back to college, to get his MBA... He's doing even better now... It's all about education, that is the key to opportunity... These days anyway... :wink:

I think that what has to change is, that with changing industries, and changing times, that people who may not have been given a good education when they were kids. That they should have some resource as adults to get a second chance, get educated, that they can then become productive citizens, get a decent paying job, and gain a sense of self worth, and dignity in doing so...

 

Well, I have to agree on wasted tax dollars. How bout you folks up in New England voting that worthless Kennedy out of office. For what his government retirement, pension, or whatever you call it, for him sitting on his but and being a drunk for the last 40 + years, you could feed, cloth and house several hundred of these below the poverty level families.

Sorry, I have not read the string for a couple of days.

 

over 90 % of those people are unemployed and on welfare by choice. Not only could they find good fair paying work in Houston, they could go back to New Orleans and get paid to rebuild their city.

The were dead beats in N.O. and are dead beats in Houston and San Antonio.

 

To recieve help, you must first be willing to help your self!! If you are not willing to help yourself, then someone trying to help you is just wasting their time. Being Helpless is not always about a disability (i.e. learning, physical, mental, etc), being lazy and relying on handouts is a disablility of choice.

 

I agree that anyone who is able bodied, and capable of work should work.

I've worked since I was 14 years old...

If you need an education to either obtain a job, or get a better job, there should be resources to do so...

If you want to hear how messed up government is in regard to housing for example. Let me give you a great example right here in my state.

I'm sure you all have public housing authorities in your state, and local communities.

Well, in my state, the income levels to be eligible for "public housing", are absolutely obscene...

If you have a family of 5, you can be eligible to receive public housing with a maximum income of up to $80,000.00 per year!... This is in the wealthier communities of this state...

If you are an individual, you can earn up to $40,000.00 to $47,000.00 per year maximum to be eligible to get into public housing...

Now is that ridiculous or what?!...

I thought public housing was for the poor, disabled, and low income elderly... Well, I guess I was wrong...

I'll bet there are some truckers out there that aren't even making $47,000.00 per year...

Then people wonder why you have homeless people wandering the streets... I'd like to see the books on these so called "public housing" authorities, and see just who it is, they are allowing to take these units...

The government hasn't been doing a good job with the programs they do offer, and they need to be cleaned up...

Those who truly need these services, programs, and even housing to have an address to give a potential employer, should be getting these services. Not those who can afford to do otherwise...

Here is something to think about as well... There were those with money, business owners who lost their homes in New Orleans, and many of them didn't return to the area either... Why do you think the poor should go back to an area where many of the business owners are not going to return themselves?...

I'm not going to address Kennedy, because George W. has the same problem, and was well reported in the news. I'm not looking to debate politicians... As far as I'm concerned they all let you down in the end...

Many people would say the best president this country ever saw was Roosevelt... But, then again he was president way before my time...

So, I still haven't received a reply from anyone as to what it is you think your tax dollars should go to the government to pay for?...

I certainly don't want the money to go to pay paper pushing government office workers who's jobs are supposed to help those who need health, or human services. Because the simple fact is that those programs are not working as it is, and need to be cleaned out, and cleaned up...

You know when people in New Orleans lost their homes, they also may have lost their money having had it in local banks. Do you think that the wealthy in New Orleans should have received food stamps. as well as the poor?...

You have to remember as well, many of the grocery stores there were lost, and there was no food. That many of them have not rebuilt, either.

It is easy to say, they should go back, and get jobs that would rebuild their city... Well, if you have no place to house those workers, and no grocery stores to feed those workers, how are they supposed to return to help rebuild?...

Not everyone is a carpenter, plumber, electrician, etc... How is an uneducated poor person, supposed to help rebuild their city?...

Again, the people who would get those jobs are those who are educated in the fields that would be required too rebuild that city...

The one thing I can say that is pretty decent in my state is, that they do offer an apprenticeship program to people who become unemployed. If they can't find work in what they were doing. Then they do have the chance to get re-trained in another profession. Examples are carpentry, plumbing, etc...

I don't know what programs your state offers the unemployed, if they dont' offer such programs, they should. It only serves to improve not only the local communities. But, the state as a whole...

I'm sure there are those of you who will disagree with me, who have strong opinions, and will no matter how much information your given, will not change your minds. But, that's your choice... Just don't let your opinions persecute an entire class of people...

Frankly, if you think about it, you should be angry with the very wealthy... They drive up proverty values, and your property taxes, when they build luxury expensive homes in your neighborhood, as well as expensive businesses. After all it is your property taxes that pay for the roads to built to get to these businesses, the police that need to be hired to cover the increase in traffic, and people coming into the area. The road crews that need to be hired to repair the roads, from all the increased traffic.

So, really on either end of the spectrum, there are problems... I won't address crime, because that carries over through every economic class...

I've seen a lot of ocean front property bought up for businesses, and wealthy private homes. Cutting off public access to these once beautiful, natural areas... Why should the wealthy get to take all the choice areas of our country, and exclude the public at large from having access?!... Now, a lot of communities are buying up natural areas, as conservation land, just to keep the wealthy from buying them up, and excluding public access to them...

I think that is why there is that famous statement... Everything in moderation... :lol: :wink:

 

One if us is mis-reading the original statement; I think it's you.

Statement said:
Only 59,000 require a high school education - the rest do not. I would find it a little hard to believe that Houston has 1,941,000 job openings that require higher education.

Education will not help those who have no wish to work.
Lack of education will not stop those who wish to succeed, because they will get educated. One way or the other.

 

Well, gator, contact the state of Texas, via the internet, and double check those stat's...

Because I doubt there are 2 million jobs that don't require a higher education, than a high school diploma...

Usually if you apply for a job, even to work at a low wage job, they usually require you to have at the minimum a high school education...

Even if you were to apply to a McDonalds, you would have to have a high school education... Why?... Because they want you to be at the minimum able to read the menu, and make correct change at the cash register... :lol:

If you think this is incorrect info. go check out Houstons stat's yourself... :wink:

 

Check it yourself.
Actually, the whole thing sounds bogus to me.......2 million jobs? In Houston, with a populations of 1,953,631 people?.........................Nah.

 

Likely, the article is referring to the metro area with 5.5 million people. But that pesky liberal media is never right!