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Old 03-18-2007, 01:03 PM
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OK, i think we are talking about different things here:

Everyone else means what do you do when you get a little drowsey.

What i'm talking about is, you've been up all day, it's night time and what do you do to stay awake and keep driving.

Now, normally if this happens (and this IS the best and ONLY thing to do) is i pull over and sleep.

But lately, in my present situation, this is really not an option; It's hard to explain; Peer pressure, dispatchers are acting "too nice." Reverse psychology you see? etc. etc. etc.

So, i would say for most of you if you just get drowsey under normal circumstances, is to run/sprint/jog 100 meters at a rest area/truckstop etc. If at all possible, try to sprint it as fast as you can go.

Even better, run a 1/4 mile. This should wake you up for the whole day.


But if you've been up all day and it's nighttime and you still have 6 log hours left and you get sleepy:

PULL THE HELL OVER.

F the dispatchers, F the customer. Your health is most important. If nessesary use the "fatigue" regulation ( i will look up the exact number and report back)



2. RE: van halen:

This IS the last straw; van halen is no good in any way, shape, or form. The sooner you understand this, the better off you'll be.

F van halen.
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:11 AM
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i liked van halen when roth was singin. with hagar it sounds like all the other lousey 80's hair bands. that fella was right about the rehab deal. does anyone think now that britney has the family and grooming issues done she is gonna create something great and historical?
you always got some catch 22 with the trucking. you run by the book they hand you to a different manager. i ran legal most times. sometimes your past the scale and you can make the extra effort to deliver on time.you know what your capable of and you let them know as soon as you think its gonna be close.they gonna assign the good long run to some one they know is likely to deliver
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When I was driving, and I would do many things.

To prevent getting tired;
Stop every 2 hours and walk around the truck, get a drink (Mountain Dew)

Avoid Driving just before sunrise. Driving between the hours of 3Am and sunrise you feel very tired no matter how much rest you had gotten.


If you get Tired while Driving


Stop and take a nap

Stop Get out and walk around Splash cool water on your face

Roll down your window and let the air hit your face

Turn on the radio and listen and sing along

Talk alot on the CB (also helps in getting to a safe place to stop)

Stop and get a bag of minture candy, the sweet will boost your energy level


But most important is If your tired that a sign, and it is BEST to park and take a nap.
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excellent replies- One thing you will get used to is being tired all the time, I think its just a part of being a truck driver. I have often been awake for 40+ hrs when i have completed my mon night/tue morning run and get to the hotel. coffee/energy drinks help, but use sparingly due to serious health effects ( trust me ) Short naps help a lot. hop in the sleeper whenever delayed/have an opportunity.
Avoid any kind of sleep aids or stay awake pills like yellow jackets or ephedrine, they will keep you from sleeping well when it is time to and they vicious cycle repeats.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/03/14...rss_topstories

FDA: Sleeping pills can cause 'sleep-driving'
POSTED: 3:54 a.m. EDT, March 15, 2007
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• FDA orders 13 sleep-disorder drugs to carry stronger warnings
• Drugs include the popular Ambien and Lunesta
• Risks include driving, eating and talking while asleep with no recollection later
• Ambien manufacturer: Fewer than one in 1,000 patients reported somnambulism
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- All prescription sleeping pills may sometimes cause sleep-driving, federal health officials warned Wednesday, almost a year after the bizarre side effect first made headlines when Rep. Patrick Kennedy crashed his car after taking Ambien.

It's a more complicated version of sleepwalking, but behind the wheel: getting up in the middle of the night and going for a drive -- with no memory of doing so.

The Food and Drug Administration wouldn't say exactly how many cases of sleep-driving it had linked to insomnia drugs, but neurology chief Dr. Russell Katz said the agency uncovered more than a dozen reports -- and is worried that more are going uncounted. (Watch police video of man who may have been sleep-driving Video)

Given the millions of prescriptions for insomnia drugs, Katz called the problem rare, and said he was unaware of any deaths. But because sleep-driving is so dangerous -- and there are precautions that patients can take -- the FDA ordered a series of strict new steps Wednesday.

First, the makers of 13 sleep drugs must put warnings on their labels about two rare but serious side effects:

• sleep-driving, along with other less dangerous "complex sleep-related behaviors" -- like making phone calls, fixing and eating food, and having sex while still asleep.

• and life-threatening allergic reactions, as well as severe facial swelling, both of which can occur either the first time the pills are taken or anytime thereafter.

Next, doctors this week will begin getting letters notifying them of the new warnings.

Later this year, all prescription sleeping pills will begin coming with special brochures called "Medication Guides" that spell out the risks for patients in easy-to-understand language.

Sleep-driving made headlines last May when Kennedy crashed his car into a security barrier outside the U.S. Capitol after taking Ambien and a second drug, Phenergan, which also acts as a sedative. He has said he had no memory of the event.

Ambien isn't the only insomnia drug that can cause sleep-driving -- any of the class known as "sedative-hypnotics" can, FDA's Katz stressed Wednesday.

To lower the risk of a sleep-driving episode, he advised patients to never take any prescription insomnia drug along with alcohol or another sedating drug, or take higher-than-recommended doses of the pills.

"We really want people to know these things can occur, and these sleep behaviors can be perhaps to a large extent mitigated by behaviors the patients can control," he said.

Some of the insomnia drugs may be riskier than others, so FDA also recommended that manufacturers conduct clinical trials to figure that out.

The drugs are: Ambien; Butisol sodium; Carbrital; Dalmane; Doral; Halcion; Lunesta; Placidyl; Prosom; Restoril; Rozerem; Seconal; Sonata.

Fewer than one in 1,000 patients in studies of Ambien reported somnambulism -- a scientific term that includes the sleep behaviors flagged by the FDA -- said Lisa Kennedy, a spokeswoman for manufacturer Sanofi-Aventis SA, who is not related to the congressman. The side effect has remained similarly rare since widespread sales began, she said.
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