2006 meal allowance $52/day (link)
#11
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
I'm shocked. The last time I used tax software (a long time ago), it automatically calculated it at the lower level, and did not give an option to calculate for HOS drivers. I ended up having to enter it in manually. Also, I seriously doubt I will be itemizing ..even this year. We'd be hard put to come up with anywhere near over $10,300 (our standard deduction without itemizing), much less exceeding it. Can you explain why you say all OTR drivers should itemize?
#12
Originally Posted by madii'swife
Also, I seriously doubt I will be itemizing ..even this year. We'd be hard put to come up with anywhere near over $10,300 (our standard deduction without itemizing), much less exceeding it. Can you explain why you say all OTR drivers should itemize?
#13
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Assuming you are out on the road for 300 days out of the year (which isn't that uncommon), that is $11,700 right there. Add to that any medical expenses (including any medication - over the counter included), any child deduction, etc., and you are already well above the standard deduction.
#14
Originally Posted by madii'swife
Hmm, good point. I think I'm starting to see why companies paying the per diem within the paychecks is a bad thing....Sorry if I'm a little thick headed on this one, I'm having trouble grasping it for some reason...
1. They end up paying less tax 2. They end up paying you less per mile for the privelage of letting them pay less tax 3. Your Social Security gets shot down about 10 grand a year for the privelage of letting them pay less tax 4. You end up paying some of the tax that they would have had to pay Don't get me wrong - per diem CAN work, in certain situations. It all depends upon several things: 1. How much per mile you are going to have to give up to be in the program (less is better - anything over $0.02 should be avoided) 2. How much income your household brings in. 3. How much your household has to itemize with (a driver who doesn't itemize should NEVER take a per diem pay, as the tax is due on all the money if you don't take your standard meal deduction) 4. How well a driver can budget that money, and save for that potential tax bill
#15
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by madii'swife
Hmm, good point. I think I'm starting to see why companies paying the per diem within the paychecks is a bad thing....Sorry if I'm a little thick headed on this one, I'm having trouble grasping it for some reason...
1. They end up paying less tax 2. They end up paying you less per mile for the privelage of letting them pay less tax 3. Your Social Security gets shot down about 10 grand a year for the privelage of letting them pay less tax 4. You end up paying some of the tax that they would have had to pay Don't get me wrong - per diem CAN work, in certain situations. It all depends upon several things: 1. How much per mile you are going to have to give up to be in the program (less is better - anything over $0.02 should be avoided) 2. How much income your household brings in. 3. How much your household has to itemize with (a driver who doesn't itemize should NEVER take a per diem pay, as the tax is due on all the money if you don't take your standard meal deduction) 4. How well a driver can budget that money, and save for that potential tax bill
#16
Originally Posted by madii'swife
Thank you so much! It finally makes sense! :lol: I'm not too terribly concerned about the social security, or the tax, but the idea that (in our case) they basically get to pay him 20 cents a mile, rather than the 30 they quote, and get a tax break out of it is rather disturbing.
RUN, DON'T WALK AWAY FROM THAT COMPANY!
#17
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by madii'swife
Thank you so much! It finally makes sense! :lol: I'm not too terribly concerned about the social security, or the tax, but the idea that (in our case) they basically get to pay him 20 cents a mile, rather than the 30 they quote, and get a tax break out of it is rather disturbing.
RUN, DON'T WALK AWAY FROM THAT COMPANY! |

