Possibility of Dirty UA Please READ
#12
01-17-2007, 10:24 AM
[quote="Rev.Vassago"]It amazes me the lengths people go to come up with these "honest, I've never smoked pot" stories. :roll:
PLAIN AND SIMPLE - if you fail, it is your own fault. The CDL license you hold puts you to a higher standard than the general motoring public. You are expected to act accordingly. THIS INCLUDES the people that you associate yourself with. I seriously doubt the truth of your story, because the amount of pot that it would take to full a cigar is not economically viable, nor would it hold together very well after being disassembled to get the tobacco out.[quote] On that one point, Rev., I'd have to disagree. I know a number of young people who smoke "Blunts". Of those who do, they seem rather partial to "Swisher Sweets", or cigars that have a fruit flavor, like orange, peach, raspberry, or grape, I'm willing to allow some benefit for doubt here for two reasons. 1.) I had a slightly similar incident happen to me about 4 years ago. A friend of mine had a Swisher Sweet burning, and offered me a puff. Now, I started smoking cigars when I was about 61/2 years old. No sneaking around behind my parents back, I smoked it with my father.....long story there, but not so relevant here..... Anyway, I eventually gave them up because they gave my pretty bad acid reflux. (......fast foreword to several years back...) In any event, I was at a friend's house, whom I hadn't seen in a while. He was getting ready to fire up a Blunt, and asked me if I wanted to "do the honors"..... I guess that should have been a hint, but he knew that I didn't smoke, I hadn't puffed a cigar in a long time, and didn't think twice about it. I took a couple of puffs...... and then started coughing my fool head off. He thought it was funny as hell.....I angrily told him what it could wind up costing me if I ever ran a hot piss test.....No fist fight, no flunked U/A, or anything like that, but I did tell him that I couldn't hang with him or his buddies anymore. That's when I learned about making Blunts" using cigars. I'd been out of the "weed loop" for many years, (almost 20 years at the time this happened!!) and had never even entertained the notion of mixing pot with cigar tobacco. So, there are times when an unusual situation will present itself. Did I inhale??? No, I choked on the damned thing!! There is also another reason why I'm willing to extend some benefit of doubt. 2.) I've read these "False positive, I didn't inhale, it was because of some medication, etc, etc, etc. threads in the past. [For example, our old friend "Allen VW"] They quickly transition from the "False Positive" story line, to the point of defending their use of it, or minimizing the effects of it, and other such nonsense. Then, they begin their campaigns of "Weed isn't as dangerous as alcohol,....U/A and drug testing violate my civil rights....cocaine or meth stays in your system for three days, but pot stays in your system for 2 whole months,...what I did a month ago doesn't matter, as long as I'm not high while I'm driving, and other nonsensical arguments........ So far, I have not seen that happen here. Now, I wasn't there, and this guy could be feeding us a line of total B.S. I'm not saying he's being truthful, but based upon my own experience that I have related here, I will allow for some benefit of doubt.
#14
01-17-2007, 11:18 AM
Don't sweat it. It takes several hours to a day to get into your system enough to be detectable in your urine.
Many years ago, I was a corrections officer. I walked into a room one time where 4 inmates were smoking pot. I had them red handed. In fact I had to walk through a cloud of marijuana smoke to identify them. I had them U/A'd immediately. They all came back clean. Imagine my surprise! The inmates laughed like crazy when their tests came back clean. I felt like a moron! That's when I learned to let it sit in their system until the next day, then test them. You have no worries. BOL
#15
01-17-2007, 11:34 AM
Originally Posted by Useless
2.) I've read these "False positive, I didn't inhale, it was because of some medication, etc, etc, etc. threads in the past. [For example, our old friend "Allen VW"] They quickly transition from the "False Positive" story line, to the point of defending their use of it, or minimizing the effects of it, and other such nonsense.
Then, they begin their campaigns of "Weed isn't as dangerous as alcohol,....U/A and drug testing violate my civil rights....cocaine or meth stays in your system for three days, but pot stays in your system for 2 whole months,...what I did a month ago doesn't matter, as long as I'm not high while I'm driving, and other nonsensical arguments........ So far, I have not seen that happen here. Now, I wasn't there, and this guy could be feeding us a line of total B.S. I'm not saying he's being truthful, but based upon my own experience that I have related here, I will allow for some benefit of doubt.[/color] If his girlfriend really cared about him, she wouldn't use pot, knowing that her boyfriend is in a career that REQUIRES him to be tested.
#16
01-17-2007, 12:20 PM
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Even if the story is true, that doesn't change the fact that he has a RESPONSIBILITY to keep himself drug free; including, but not limited to avoiding others who use drugs.
If his girlfriend really cared about him, she wouldn't use pot, knowing that her boyfriend is in a career that REQUIRES him to be tested. The point that I was making had to do with people using cigars as a means by which to smoke weed. As far as the economic viability is concerned, I can't understand anyone paying the ridiculous prices that weed is apparently bringing these days. My days of that go way back to the days of nickle bags, and penny matchboxes. At first read, I saw some room for an element of plausibility here, but as you pointed out, this was his girlfriend who was involved in this; so, either he does not know nearly enough about his girlfriend, or he needs to choose his girlfriends more carefully. As you correctly pointed out, if he runs a hot piss test, then all of the other considerations become moot.
#18
01-17-2007, 12:32 PM
[quote="glasman2"]
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
If his girlfriend really cared about him, she wouldn't use pot, knowing that her boyfriend is in a career that REQUIRES him to be tested.
Word! Huh??? Ya' lost me there, glasman2!!
#19
01-17-2007, 12:55 PM
[quote="Useless"]
Originally Posted by glasman2
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
If his girlfriend really cared about him, she wouldn't use pot, knowing that her boyfriend is in a career that REQUIRES him to be tested.
Word! Huh??? Ya' lost me there, glasman2!!
#20
01-17-2007, 01:03 PM
[quote="Rev.Vassago"]
Originally Posted by Useless
Originally Posted by glasman2
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
If his girlfriend really cared about him, she wouldn't use pot, knowing that her boyfriend is in a career that REQUIRES him to be tested.
Word! Huh??? Ya' lost me there, glasman2!! |
