Major Question
#21
12-13-2006, 10:17 AM
Originally Posted by traveler15301
Originally Posted by Manicmechnic
Originally Posted by JOYRIDE
Nascar, The combined GVWR is 25,200. The truck is 11,200 and the trailer is 14,000. We keep it under 26,001 so CDL's wouldn't be needed at the time because I was only 19 and not old enough to take the test. Thanks again for all the info. It is very much appreciated. Jonathan The Commercial Motor Vehicle Act of 1986 (The Act) was designed to remove unsafe and unqualified drivers of heavy trucks and buses from the nation’s highways. The Act required the Secretary of the U.S. Department of Transportation to issue regulations establishing guidelines and standards for the testing and licensing of CMV drivers. These guidelines and standards were established in the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Chapter 49, Part 383. All states adopted these licensing guidelines and standards in April 1992 . The commercial driver’s license requirements are applicable to drivers transporting persons or property in both interstate or intrastate commerce. The commercial driver’s license has three classes covering the following vehicle classification groups: Class A -- Required for a combination vehicle with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more and towing a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of more than 10,000 pounds. Class B -- Required for a single unit vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 lbs. GVWR. So if the trailer weighs more than 10,001 lbs you must have a Class A CDL Class A only applies if GCWR>= 26001 and trailer GVWR>10k Pickups with trailers (even with GVWR>10k) do NOT need class A if GCWR is <=26k
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#22
12-13-2006, 03:28 PM
BanditsCousin,
A toter home is a top of the line tow rig for somebody in my situtation. Unfortunatley, they have a great product and know it. My buddy who shows with me just upgraded his toter home to a freightliner with a mercedes diesel and a 17' box with a slide. He paid around $165,000 for the rig alone. That kind of money is way out of my league for now, so when I need luxury I will just use his. Thanks for the input and it is a great idea, I just can't afford one. Jonathan
#23
12-14-2006, 02:09 AM
Originally Posted by NascarFan
Try telling that to a state trooper.
though not always by me....it took an attorney AND the magistrate once to explain the finer points of the english language word "AND" to one trooper.......I'll bet he was at the top of his class at the Gestapo....oops...State Police Academy!!
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#24
12-15-2006, 12:50 AM
Originally Posted by traveler15301
Originally Posted by NascarFan
Try telling that to a state trooper.
though not always by me....it took an attorney AND the magistrate once to explain the finer points of the english language word "AND" to one trooper.......I'll bet he was at the top of his class at the Gestapo....oops...State Police Academy!! http://www.courts.state.pa.us/OpPost...emeOpindex.asp
#27
12-15-2006, 04:30 AM
Originally Posted by Manicmechnic
Was that in PA?
http://www.courts.state.pa.us/OpPost...emeOpindex.asp Trooper insisted because the trailer was over 10k you must have a class A regardless of the truck GVWR or the GCWR. Local magistrate and lawyer figured it out properly. Truck scaled 10200...trailer scaled 12k. I did not garner any info from that link you posted....if you had a specific case in mind please let me know. That site just gives you a chance to search all supreme court decisions.
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#28
12-15-2006, 05:51 AM
Originally Posted by traveler15301
Originally Posted by Manicmechnic
Was that in PA?
http://www.courts.state.pa.us/OpPost...emeOpindex.asp Trooper insisted because the trailer was over 10k you must have a class A regardless of the truck GVWR or the GCWR. Local magistrate and lawyer figured it out properly. Truck scaled 10200...trailer scaled 12k. I did not garner any info from that link you posted....if you had a specific case in mind please let me know. That site just gives you a chance to search all supreme court decisions.
#29
12-15-2006, 06:28 AM
Originally Posted by NascarFan
So what about a truck with a GVWR of 26,000lbs and 10,000lb trailer that = 36,000lbs so what then do you need a CDL?
Question 6: A driver operates a tractor of exactly 26,000 pounds GVWR, towing a trailer of exactly 10,000 pounds GVWR, for a GCWR of 36,000 pounds. HM and passengers are not involved. Is it a CMV and does the driver need a CDL? Guidance: No to both questions. Although the vehicle has a GCWR of 36,000 pounds, it is not a CMV under any part of the definition of that term in §383.5, and a CDL is not federally required.
#30
12-17-2006, 08:50 AM
Nascar,
The truck is 9'6" tall and 101" wide. This height and and width are with tires that are 49" tall and 21" wide. When putting it inside an enclosed trailer, we would swap the tires out with some that are 37" tall and 12" wide. Here is a pic of the truck on the trailer before we painted it.  Here is a pic of the truck after paint. 
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