[Slimland]

:lol: :lol: Yes as for accents I to have one, known as the souther draw, and with a little hick aka "redneck".
When I was a kid, I had moved to Colorado, for a year and a half. Got nouthin but guff about the way I talked. But by the end of the year, my best frien was talking like I did! :lol: He would say "over Younder. the utterone, y'all, wichadidya,etc" just like the great Jeff Foxworthy, man that guy is right on the money.

Again soo good to chat withya!

[Consider]

Originally Posted by wot i life

Slim my friend, enunciation is a matter for the individual. I have a very broad "Geordie" accent and frequently struggle to make myself understood in most parts of southern england....
Am i bothered? Hadaway n shite! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Love it!!

I went to see R.D. Laing once, the fairly famous psychiatrist. And he listened to me with his eyes closed, so I said, "Are you listening? I'm going to ask questions later!"

At the time I was really upset about the English. I felt they were all around... (I lived in London) and that they were a bit of a threat. The lady downstairs was a major threat... okay, I digress.

Then I began explaining how my son spoke with an English accent, and how it was like... okay, so you can sort of see where I'm going with this...

Anyway, Laing said, in this Scottish brogue that was so thick it nearly clogged the entire room, "Accents de nay mattah."

I just loved it!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Slimland

:lol: :lol: Yes as for accents I to have one, known as the souther draw, and with a little hick aka "redneck".
When I was a kid, I had moved to Colorado, for a year and a half. Got nouthin but guff about the way I talked. But by the end of the year, my best frien was talking like I did! :lol: He would say "over Younder. the utterone, y'all, wichadidya,etc" just like the great Jeff Foxworthy, man that guy is right on the money.

Again soo good to chat withya!

I'm just throwing this in here, for the sake of perspective.

When I lived in London, I lived with John, a topologist. Topology is the study of what's a knot and what's not a knot, is how he put it. I met him when he was here thinking for our government. Pure mathematics, is what topology is.

Okay, so John was sent away to boarding school when he was 5 so that he would not learn to speak in the local accent. I think it was the Cottswolds where they lived at the time. But I forget.

In any case, John suffered from depression all of his life (I don't know how he is doing now) and I can't help but think that being separated from his family when so young played a part...

He of course speaks with a beautiful OxBridge accent, though.

[Slimland]

Originally Posted by Consider

NO OFFENSE INTENDED!!!

But What? :lol:
Either I am not awake enough or this is just not right!
You said you where going to throw this in there for perspective :lol:
What was the point of this story? :lol:

I am not laughing at you-- I am laughing because I don't get it, but I read it and understand it, but dont get why you posted it?

Please take no offense!

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Originally Posted by Slimland

NO OFFENSE INTENDED!!!

But What? :lol:
Either I am not awake enough or this is just not right!
You said you where going to throw this in there for perspective :lol:
What was the point of this story? :lol:

I am not laughing at you-- I am laughing because I don't get it, but I read it and understand it, but dont get why you posted it?

Please take no offense!

Oh... okay... I can see where I was a bit obtuse.

The idea behind My Fair Lady was that accents keep people in specific levels of society. The idea was that you change the accent, and you change the level of society...

Okay, so John's parents, John's dad was a minister, were motivated by that idea. They were afraid that John would talk like the wrong class of people unless they sent him away to school where he would learn the Right Accent. OxBridge is the Accent generally heard in people who went to Oxford or Cambridge universities.

The thing is... that in real life, John suffered from depression. That's quite a price to pay for having the correct accent. Think?

[Slimland]

NO OFFENSE INTENDED!!!

But What? :lol:
Either I am not awake enough or this is just not right!
You said you where going to throw this in there for perspective :lol:
What was the point of this story? :lol:

I am not laughing at you-- I am laughing because I don't get it, but I read it and understand it, but dont get why you posted it?

Please take no offense!

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Oh... okay... I can see where I was a bit obtuse.

The idea behind My Fair Lady was that accents keep people in specific levels of society. The idea was that you change the accent, and you change the level of society...

Okay, so John's parents, John's dad was a minister, were motivated by that idea. They were afraid that John would talk like the wrong class of people unless they sent him away to school where he would learn the Right Accent. OxBridge is the Accent generally heard in people who went to Oxford or Cambridge universities.

The thing is... that in real life, John suffered from depression. That's quite a price to pay for having the correct accent. Think?

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Ok-- Now I get it!!! :idea:

This makes more sense now, I am sorry.

Yes that is a heavy price to pay for language etikit. When I usualy talk to Doctors and such, I useta try to watch the way I speak, but then I realized they are no diffrent, and most don't have the chip on the shoulder, but there are a few.

As for your story, his parents must've been worried about what pthers thought of them. That is sad.

To be conformed to the world!

[Consider]

Originally Posted by Slimland

NO OFFENSE INTENDED!!!

But What? :lol:
Either I am not awake enough or this is just not right!
You said you where going to throw this in there for perspective :lol:
What was the point of this story? :lol:

I am not laughing at you-- I am laughing because I don't get it, but I read it and understand it, but dont get why you posted it?

Please take no offense!

Originally Posted by Consider

Oh... okay... I can see where I was a bit obtuse.

The idea behind My Fair Lady was that accents keep people in specific levels of society. The idea was that you change the accent, and you change the level of society...

Okay, so John's parents, John's dad was a minister, were motivated by that idea. They were afraid that John would talk like the wrong class of people unless they sent him away to school where he would learn the Right Accent. OxBridge is the Accent generally heard in people who went to Oxford or Cambridge universities.

The thing is... that in real life, John suffered from depression. That's quite a price to pay for having the correct accent. Think?

Originally Posted by Slimland

Ok-- Now I get it!!! :idea:

This makes more sense now, I am sorry.

Yes that is a heavy price to pay for language etikit. When I usualy talk to Doctors and such, I useta try to watch the way I speak, but then I realized they are no diffrent, and most don't have the chip on the shoulder, but there are a few.

As for your story, his parents must've been worried about what pthers thought of them. That is sad.

To be conformed to the world!

I like the way you separate the quotes, that is much clearer. But, boy is it hard to do that. I can't get it to work. This is my fifth edit....

Yes, a high price. But in fact, success in England in terms of university jobs, John was a professor at Durham shortly after I met him, the accent is important.

I've read many things about how doctors are influenced by the way that patients are dressed.

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Darn it!

Did I kill this thread?

I'm mortified!

[Slimland]

I don't think you killed the thread! It is probly on its last dying leg anyway! :lol:

[JBenson2]

Multi-national personnel at NATO Headquarters near Paris found English to be an easy language... until they tried to pronounce it. To help them discard an array of accents, the verses below were devised. After trying them, a Frenchman said he?d prefer six months at hard labor to reading it aloud. Here is a reduced version of the full poem. Try it yourself.


ENGLISH IS TOUGH STUFF

Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.

Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it?s written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.

Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation?s OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.

Finally, which rhymes with enough?
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!!!