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BigWheels · Joined: 26 Aug 2006 Posts: 574 Location: Milwaukee, WI

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IdleAire has filed for bankrupcy.

The environmental movement must be having a cow over this one. :!:

IdleAire is a good idea but their business model probably didn't take into account that the economy slowed down as much as did and that diesel prices soared as much as they did.

Double L · Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 1421 Location: Illinois

I use to think that IdleAire would be EVERYWHERE with the increase in the price of diesel! I was wrong! I'm curious and this maybe off topic but are APU's still allowed in Cali? Last I heard Cali is supposely banning APU's cause they "pollute"? :roll:

Drew10 · Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject:

Idle air (IMO) was nothing more than a means to profit from us drivers by laying the environment and usage of fuel quilt on us and our companies that they thought would "buy" into the scam and tried to ram it down our throats. Idle air was not and never would have been a solution to the idling problem, and it created a parking problem at the truckstops.
Maybe if Idle air came out a decade or 2 ago, before the advances in anti idling technolgy, it may have suceeded. A sleeper truck needs to be self sufficient when it come to heating/cooling/and supplying electrical power to the sleeper, without the use of the main engine. Generators/APUs is the real solution.
Idle air came out way to late to be even alittle effective, just look at the frames of the trucks today and the APUs installed on them, just in the last year or so I have seen a dramatic increase in the APUs on the sides of trucks.

Double L · Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 1421 Location: Illinois

Hmmm I didn't realize that it was a scam! I knew IdleAire created a BIG parking issue I seen them at truckstops and plus they ruined the chance to take some good pictures of some good looking trucks!

Bumper · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 740 Location: Kingman Arizona

I have used it many times. I never thought of it as a scam. Yes you paid for it, but no, your truck was not idling and wasting fuel. And the cost of the fuel you would have wasted was more than the cost of idleaire.

APUs are not legal in CA, yet.

TomB985 · Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 240 Location: Columbus, OH

Bumper wrote: APUs are not legal in CA, yet.

UNLESS your truck has an older than '07 engine without the new EPA emissions stuff...

BIG JEEP on 44's · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:07 am Post subject:

Bumper wrote: I have used it many times. I never thought of it as a scam. Yes you paid for it, but no, your truck was not idling and wasting fuel. And the cost of the fuel you would have wasted was more than the cost of idleaire.

APUs are not legal in CA, yet.

Idle air is only effective when parked at a truck stop and plugged into idle air... :wink:

BIG JEEP on 44's · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:09 am Post subject:

Drew10 wrote: Idle air (IMO) was nothing more than a means to profit from us drivers by laying the environment and usage of fuel quilt on us and our companies that they thought would "buy" into the scam and tried to ram it down our throats. Idle air was not and never would have been a solution to the idling problem, and it created a parking problem at the truckstops.
Maybe if Idle air came out a decade or 2 ago, before the advances in anti idling technolgy, it may have suceeded. A sleeper truck needs to be self sufficient when it come to heating/cooling/and supplying electrical power to the sleeper, without the use of the main engine. Generators/APUs is the real solution.
Idle air came out way to late to be even alittle effective, just look at the frames of the trucks today and the APUs installed on them, just in the last year or so I have seen a dramatic increase in the APUs on the sides of trucks.

Ok I'm going back on my meds immediately after typing this , because I agree with your post 100% .

Jumbo · Joined: 27 Aug 2006 Posts: 909 Location: Northern Wisconsin

I use the Idle Air about twice a month. Last week down in Georgia I plugged in for the night. It sure beat idling the truck tp keep cool all night. I wouldn't rent a movie from them,not for $10.00.

Double L · Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 1421 Location: Illinois

$10.00 for a movie, last time I checked you can rent a movie from Blockbuster for $7.00 unless the price went up.

duck · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:09 am Post subject:

Hell - if you shop the bargain bin you can BUY a flick for 9 on DVD.

Orangetxguy · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 1931

Bumper wrote: I have used it many times. I never thought of it as a scam. Yes you paid for it, but no, your truck was not idling and wasting fuel. And the cost of the fuel you would have wasted was more than the cost of idleaire.
APUs are not legal in CA, yet.

I use Idleair whenever I can. I plan my stops to be at a TS that is equipped with IA whenever possible. Until fuel hit $3.50 a gallon, the biggest advantage it had was the shore power it provides, and the fact that the engine is not running...so it cuts down on idle wear & tear, which is huge.

A company driver does not and never will look at what it cost's in wear & tear. As an O/O I would be a fool not to take it into consideration. As for the parking situation...IA has never stopped the APU dudes, the reefer dudes..or the idlers from doing so. I see all of them parked at IA all the time. Some of them next to me.

I get tired of the APU's filling my cab with their exhaust. They should have the exhaust pipe rigged to discharge behind the tractor, not under the neighboring truck.

RottsATruckin · Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 178 Location: Traer IA

Orangetxguy wrote:

I get tired of the APU's filling my cab with their exhaust. They should have the exhaust pipe rigged to discharge behind the tractor, not under the neighboring truck.

For sure, I hated the fact that my APU exhaust was so close to the truck cab, it was noisy and the stink from the fumes always seemed to get inside, how about a decent muffler on the things too.
Because I had an APU I never had use for IA, and it chapped my backside that some truck stops dedicated half to 100% of their parking to IA customers, I�d like to see how much $ those truck stops lost compared to what they made from the IA company, my $$$ went to the TS across the street.
After 1 year of using IA add up what you spent, I�d bet you could�ve bought an APU for that amount.

mike3fan · Joined: 04 Aug 2006 Posts: 1715 Location: michigan

Drew10 wrote: Idle air (IMO) was nothing more than a means to profit from us drivers by laying the environment and usage of fuel quilt on us and our companies that they thought would "buy" into the scam and tried to ram it down our throats.

What scam? ram down throat? it's a service either you use it or don't

Idle air was not and never would have been a solution to the idling problem,

It is a solution,one of many available
and it created a parking problem at the truckstops.

this is a common cry from IA detractors,but I don't believe it

A sleeper truck needs to be self sufficient when it come to heating/cooling/and supplying electrical power to the sleeper, without the use of the main engine.

Does it?
Generators/APUs is the real solution.

not finacially feasable,for me
Idle air came out way to late to be even alittle effective, just look at the frames of the trucks today and the APUs installed on them, just in the last year or so I have seen a dramatic increase in the APUs on the sides of trucks.

mike3fan · Joined: 04 Aug 2006 Posts: 1715 Location: michigan

Orangetxguy wrote: I use Idleair whenever I can. I plan my stops to be at a TS that is equipped with IA whenever possible. Until fuel hit $3.50 a gallon, the biggest advantage it had was the shore power it provides, and the fact that the engine is not running...so it cuts down on idle wear & tear, which is huge.

Yep,agree 100%,I too plan trips to stop at IA sites.

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