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Smith Trucking Company Told to stay OFF the 10 Meter band
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headborg



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject:  

and to think, I actually had the safety director at company x to once Suggest
I get a Radar Detector and a Beartracker Scanner. Why don't you have one?


And they don't allow "illegal" equipment in their trucks...
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countryhorseman



Joined: 04 Jan 2005
Posts: 730
Location: The Great State of Texas - Seguin

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject:  

RadioRay wrote: ROTFLMAO:


(You guys resurrected this thread, not me, OK? :D )

It takes TWO to truly triangulate a signal. The two stations that do the "DF'ing" and the station being hunted. The THREE together = the "triangle".



RR

Dang Ray, I guess I have been doing something that does not exist then! Signal triangulation in the true since is rarely used now! Most even basic systems utilize a simple reciever capable of tuning it to the frequency to be tracked, a simple doppler type device, and if ya want to get fancy, the sensitivity and transmitters signature can be clarified through simple, easily acquired software.

Sorry, but if a adequate and consistent signal is available, there is equipment available that can track a stationary or moving signal, without multiple triangulation. This little homebuilt unit I have, can do it easily!

Do a simple google search for radio fox hunting, and there is loads of information on a couple of different single reciever methods.
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One



Joined: 13 Mar 2005
Posts: 953
Location: Alabama

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject:  

I wish they enforced the 4 watt limit on CB...thats enough to talk 10 miles+ if you got it set up right...
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BIG JEEP on 44's



Joined: 09 Jul 2005
Posts: 1342
Location: Fixing something under my jeep

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:58 pm    Post subject:  

One wrote: I wish they enforced the 4 watt limit on CB...thats enough to talk 10 miles+ if you got it set up right...


I'd like to see you get 10+ miles out of a CB at 4 watts swinging about 7 watts installed on a fiberglass truck with any realistic set up ,and not out in areas like the desert . :wink:
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kc0iv



Joined: 03 Feb 2005
Posts: 1113
Location: Kansas City, MO

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:04 am    Post subject:  

BIG JEEP on 44's wrote: One wrote: I wish they enforced the 4 watt limit on CB...thats enough to talk 10 miles+ if you got it set up right...


I'd like to see you get 10+ miles out of a CB at 4 watts swinging about 7 watts installed on a fiberglass truck with any realistic set up ,and not out in areas like the desert . :wink:


Well Big Jeep there are several reasons you won't see 10+ miles in town. The single biggest one being the electrical background noise.

The second one is people not having their transmitter set up correctly. Your example is a perfect example. If a transmitter is tuned correctly you won' see a swing from 4 to 7 watts. You will see a nice steady 4 watts output. That is assuming we are talking about an AM signal and not a SSB signal.

kc0iv
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RadioRay



Joined: 15 Dec 2004
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Location: North Carolina

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject:  

They think it is all in the "SWANG"! :wink:



RR
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Bandit102



Joined: 22 Nov 2006
Posts: 245

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:37 pm    Post subject:  

Ok, in all honesty, I bought my SS3900EGHP and converted it myself, simple task. I think it keyed 12 watts and might have swung 15. It did a great job. Since, I've had lots of work done to it, so it now keys 4 watts and swings over 60 with very bold and clear modulation. The difference is that now I am over a hundred bucks lighter and my radio is louder, although I don't seem to be able to talk any further.

Funny thing though. People seem to think that if they can talk 5 miles with 20 watts, they can surely talk 50 miles with 200 watts. It just doesn't work like that at all.

My little illegal radio does sound good though. Or so I'm told.
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kc0iv



Joined: 03 Feb 2005
Posts: 1113
Location: Kansas City, MO

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject:  

Bandit102 wrote: Ok, in all honesty, I bought my SS3900EGHP and converted it myself, simple task. I think it keyed 12 watts and might have swung 15. It did a great job. Since, I've had lots of work done to it, so it now keys 4 watts and swings over 60 with very bold and clear modulation. The difference is that now I am over a hundred bucks lighter and my radio is louder, although I don't seem to be able to talk any further.

Funny thing though. People seem to think that if they can talk 5 miles with 20 watts, they can surely talk 50 miles with 200 watts. It just doesn't work like that at all.

My little illegal radio does sound good though. Or so I'm told.

Bandit As I said before if there is a up swing in output power the the transmitter is over modulating. Which in turn causes distortion among other things. The thing is that most people don't know what a good transmitter sounds like and thereby really can't judge.

There is a test used by good technician that is called a two tone test. It will show how well the transmitter can reproduce the audio from the microphone. I can assure you if the transmitter is over modulating, as shown by the two tone test, the transmitter isn't tuned properly.

The second thing about increasing power in a transmitter is most so called technicians change out the output transistor(s) and don't address the requirement of the transmitter now needing an increase in the modulation circuits.

What I find odd is the CBer will accept a poor quality sound from a CB but would have a fit if their stereo sounded the same way.

As to power vs distance. On that one I totally agree.

kc0iv
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RadioRay



Joined: 15 Dec 2004
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Location: North Carolina

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject:  

Drive down the road and listen to the drivers. At least 60% of them sound AWFUL, and you're right. Many CB ops wouldn't know a GOOd-sounding transmitter if it smacked them in the face! And if it DID sound good, they'd run as fast as they could to some hack shop so it can get "clip this'd" and "snip that'd". Peak and tune (that's a laugh!), beep and squeak, 'fah'r in th' wah'r and all controls to the right. If it makes 4 watts, they want 10. IF it does 10, they want twenty! And heaven forbid they don't see "SWANG"! :wink: I can sit right here with my Swan peak-reading wattmeter and make it read whatever "watts" you want it to! It's all about separating a driver's $$$ and getting it to land in some sheister's pocket! Sad, really. :cry:

73

RR
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headborg



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 1192

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject:  

If the finals only do 4watts...you're only gonna get 4watts out of it--that's as much a "swing" as you're gonna get.

The one that amazes me is these "peak & tuned" jobs that defy the laws of electronics & actually GENERATES POWER!

P=IE

you got a 12volt radio with a 2amp fuse in-line/

the radio tec finishes peaking it--hands it back and tells you "now it's putting out 50watts! dead keying 35!"

not only does the radio run 100% effiecently but is somehow generating power.
(maybe they installed you a built in kicker?)
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mbadriver



Joined: 19 Oct 2007
Posts: 357
Location: I94 Exit 69

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:02 am    Post subject:  

Your handle is Warlock, your control center is in Mom's basement.

Live Free or Die Hard

The Warlock: [to Matt] Why did you bring a cop to my command center?
John McClane: [laughs] Command center? It's a basement.

John McClane: Hey, hey, hey. Calm down. Just calm down, big boy!
The Warlock: You calm down! This is MY house!
John McClane: You're gonna tell me what I wanna know, or I'm gonna beat you to death in your own house.


[quote="RadioRay"] Sheepdancer wrote:

"honestly", your lack of knowledge of the radio world is showing and is contained within the circumference of your steering wheel! :twisted: You only know of "10 Meters" or "11 Meters" and ONLY because you saw them in some truck stop. When your "internet" is DOWN, your CELLPHONE doesn't WORK, and your computer is DEAD, those hams will still be on the air passing vital traffic into and out of disaster areas during hurricanes, fires, floods and other events.

RR
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Fredog



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Posts: 2271
Location: North Georgia

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject:  

RadioRay wrote: Drive down the road and listen to the drivers. At least 60% of them sound AWFUL, and you're right. Many CB ops wouldn't know a GOOd-sounding transmitter if it smacked them in the face! And if it DID sound good, they'd run as fast as they could to some hack shop so it can get "clip this'd" and "snip that'd". Peak and tune (that's a laugh!), beep and squeak, 'fah'r in th' wah'r and all controls to the right. If it makes 4 watts, they want 10. IF it does 10, they want twenty! And heaven forbid they don't see "SWANG"! :wink: I can sit right here with my Swan peak-reading wattmeter and make it read whatever "watts" you want it to! It's all about separating a driver's $$$ and getting it to land in some sheister's pocket! Sad, really. :cry:

73

RR


tee hee hee////////////// got any cheese?
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HOTROD29335



Joined: 01 Dec 2007
Posts: 148
Location: south carolina

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject:  

radio ray where are you in north carolina?and what freq. do you talk on? ill be going through nc going to tn friday i just got done putting my galaxy 99 in my truck im thinking about putting mt texas star 1200 in there in the moring id like to blow you off the air :lol: :lol:
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Fredog



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Posts: 2271
Location: North Georgia

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject:  

HOTROD29335 wrote: radio ray where are you in north carolina?and what freq. do you talk on? ill be going through nc going to tn friday i just got done putting my galaxy 99 in my truck im thinking about putting mt texas star 1200 in there in the moring id like to blow you off the air :lol: :lol:


Ray has his own private channel that only he is allowed to talk on..
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HOTROD29335



Joined: 01 Dec 2007
Posts: 148
Location: south carolina

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject:  

Fredog wrote: HOTROD29335 wrote: radio ray where are you in north carolina?and what freq. do you talk on? ill be going through nc going to tn friday i just got done putting my galaxy 99 in my truck im thinking about putting mt texas star 1200 in there in the moring id like to blow you off the air :lol: :lol:


Ray has his own private channel that only he is allowed to talk on.. :lol:
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