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ronjon619 · Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 400 Location: San Diego, CA

chicago1010 wrote: My log is up to date and I'm within my hours up to today. I drove 10.5 hours and spent 2.5 hours on duty, not driving. I am now unloaded. I live 55 miles from this drop. My carrier says that I can drive the CMV home as I have 22 hours befor my next P/U. How do I log this as I can't drive 55 miles in an 1/2 hour?

What kind of question is this? Of course you can't make it home with those numbers. What you learn in your log book class and what you do behind the wheel is a different story. And then you start with the I'm unloaded but not empty. WTF? :shock:

Rev.Vassago · Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:27 pm Post subject:

chicago1010 wrote: OK, I got some real good replies; however, I don't believe I got a right answer as of yet.
Malaki86 said that because I had been dispathched I wasconsidered under load. This could be true, but I could not find it in the Regs. Malaki86, could you give us the Reg on this?

I'd be happy to:

Quote: Question 26: If a driver is permitted to use a CMV for personal reasons, how must the driving time be recorded?

Guidance: When a driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work, time spent traveling from a driver's home to his/her terminal (normal work reporting location), or from a driver's terminal to his/her home, may be considered off-duty time. Similarly, time spent traveling short distances from a driver's en route lodgings (such as en route terminals or motels) to restaurants in the vicinity of such lodgings may be considered off-duty time. The type of conveyance used from the terminal to the driver's home, from the driver's home to the terminal, or to restaurants in the vicinity of en route lodgings would not alter the situation unless the vehicle is laden. A driver may not operate a laden CMV as a personal conveyance. The driver who uses a motor carrier's CMV for transportation home, and is subsequently called by the employing carrier and is then dispatched from home, would be on-duty from the time the driver leaves home.

Quote: The Rev and Dawn gave pretty much the same answer. If malaki86's is wrong, they could be right, but they could be wrong too. In my post I stated I was "unloaded" I never said I was "empty" I could still have cargo onboard which would change the answer, right?

Yes - if you are carrying any freight involved in interstate commerce, then you cannot log any time operating the CMV as Off Duty.

Quote: In that case I believe that I would not be able to drive home under "off duty" So, lets assume I'm emptY. If Malaki86 is correct, then I would need a 10 hour break before I could drive home, Correct?
Lets now say he's wrong. According to what the Rev and Dawn stated I believe that I could drive home under the personal use rule, but it's still a grey area in alot of your minds.

It depends. If you unload at a shipper, and then immediately drive home, you must log the time as ON DUTY (driving). If you report to your terminal, and they then release you from any work, you can drive the CMV as OFF DUTY. If they dispatch you from home, then you are considered ON DUTY (DRIVING) from the time you leave your house.

Quote: I think if I asked this question to 5 different LEO's I would get 5 differant interpertations; would you all agree?

Proabably.

chicago1010 · Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 16

Good point. I gave you a situation; however I left out some info. How can anyone give me an answer without asking questions?

got mud? · Joined: 27 May 2006 Posts: 243

chicago1010 wrote: Good point. I gave you a situation; however I left out some info. How can anyone give me an answer without asking questions?

was this a test? i didnt know we where graded on here. the truth is if you wanted to get home you would speed average and compress your day so that you had the hours to make it. match your items that need matched but dont log 3 hours in traffic as 3 hours in traffic etc etc etc. :roll: :D

yoopr · Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 12865

but dont log 3 hours in traffic

now now-this is a respectable trucking forum :P

devildice · Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 1434 Location: Helotes, Texas

yoopr wrote: now now-this is a respectable trucking forum :P

shoot..........guess I am logged onto the wrong forum AGAIN!! :lol: :lol:

yoopr · Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 12865

This is not called the Creative Logging Thread

got mud? · Joined: 27 May 2006 Posts: 243

yoopr wrote: This is not called the Creative Logging Thread

sorry! I swear thats just the way it happened :wink:

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