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Cool Hand
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:49 am Post subject: O/O's: how much choice do you have in choosing loads? |
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Okay, I'm thinking that to get back on the road, I need to just bite the bullet and go full time. As soon as my business sells, I'll have the time to do it.
What I'm wondering is this: if I purchased or leased a truck, and then came on full time as an O/O with one of the big truck companies, would I be treated pretty much like a company driver ("you haul this load to this place or else") or would I have a fair bit of flexibility with dispatch to be able to request a different destination, etc...? |
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Jackrabbit379
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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Location: Wichita Falls,Tx
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| Well,I believe that will depend on who you will be leased to. Some companies are a forced dispatch,and some are non-forced dispatch. The forced dispatched companies will have you run what you are scheduled to run,and the non-forced dispatched companies can allow you to choose,and what not..When,and if you are going to own your own truck,look into companies that are a non-forced dispatch. You might want to look into the search option on top,and search for messages written by GMAN. From being a member here,and from what I have read over time,GMAN has written a lot of messages concerning owner opps,and leasing a truck to companies. He has a lot of inside help,info. |
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Sonny Pruitt
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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Location: Mahwah,NJ
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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as an o/o they will give you the right to refuse loads because otherwise you are an employee. The guy who you just said no to now has to find another driver to run it and his supper is getting cold.
The dispatchers are the ones that control your money
its best to treat them like you are waiter in a high class restaurant
and they are your best customer.
If you want to make $$$ you have to kiss butt. sorry but true
Believe it or not you need to know if their married, how many kids,what sports do they play, does anybody fish hunt etc.
you must connect with them as soon as possible.
in any way you can
This is a busness.
You have to connect asap with the customers also.
and you are going to refuse a load? |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| all depends on whether you're running on your own authority or a Companies Authority. |
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Sonny Pruitt
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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i am refering to leasing to a co
there are a bunch of tricks you can use to get better runs as a leased o/o once you have'connected with the dispatcher or one of the company's regular customers |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I was saying this to the Author of this Thread |
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Cool Hand
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Wise words! Keep 'em coming, I am listening, not just trying to have my cake and eat it too. Just want to learn what my options are so that years down the road, I don't smack myself and say, "Man, you mean I didn't have to do it that way???" :) |
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BanditsCousin
Joined: 05 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Chances are, you're still going to have a dispatcher as an o/o. Being an o/o doesn't mean all the freedom people think.
You don't like the load your dispatcher gives you, so you refuse it. Ya still gotta deal with that guy who gets your freight....see where I'm going with this? YOu could get your own authority, but your commitment level doesn't seem 100% into a career of trucking.
"You don't have to take every load; you can turn doesn trips. But keep in mind, you have to come back to town, and I have to reload you!" Quote- my old dispatcher |
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GMAN
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
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Location: Tennessee
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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How you are treated will be the result of how you conduct yourself and your attitude. I always figured that it is my truck, my fuel, so I am the one who decides whether I take a load or not. If you lease to a mileage pay carrier and they pay the same regardless of where you go, then it should not make a difference in where you run. On the other hand, if you lease to a carrier who pays percentage, it can make a difference where you run. Rates can vary according to where you run, type of freight, season, etc.,
Regardless of which type of carrier you lease with, constantly refusing loads can impact your ability to earn a living. It is good to get to know your dispatcher. Effective communication is vital to your success. You need to let them know how and where you prefer running. They may not always be able to give you exactly what you want, but if they are aware of your needs, and you keep a good attitude, you stand a better chance of getting what you want. Remember, the idea is to make a good living. This is a business. If you treat it as such, you have a much greater opportunity for success. |
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Cool Hand
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:58 am Post subject: |
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GMAN wrote: How you are treated will be the result of how you conduct yourself and your attitude. I always figured that it is my truck, my fuel, so I am the one who decides whether I take a load or not. If you lease to a mileage pay carrier and they pay the same regardless of where you go, then it should not make a difference in where you run. On the other hand, if you lease to a carrier who pays percentage, it can make a difference where you run. Rates can vary according to where you run, type of freight, season, etc.,
Regardless of which type of carrier you lease with, constantly refusing loads can impact your ability to earn a living. It is good to get to know your dispatcher. Effective communication is vital to your success. You need to let them know how and where you prefer running. They may not always be able to give you exactly what you want, but if they are aware of your needs, and you keep a good attitude, you stand a better chance of getting what you want. Remember, the idea is to make a good living. This is a business. If you treat it as such, you have a much greater opportunity for success.
Thank you, Gman, for such a thoughtful and non-sarcastic answer! This is exactly the polite and helpful kind of attitude I tend to have with people. It's not always about me. I just need to know that I can at the very least expect to make some requests and have them heard now and then. Of course I wouldn't be saying "Only Disneyworld and Vegas or forget it!" to my dispatcher.
By the way: I hope you're getting paid somehow for all the time and effort you put in to this site... |
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GMAN
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| You are welcome, Cool Hand. I see no need in being sarcastic with someone who is honestly seeking answers to questions. And I don't get paid for being here. I just try to help when I can. I believe it is important for us to share what we learn along the way with others who are just starting out. |
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Sonny Pruitt
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Everything is the same when you are paid by mileage up to a point.
The problem comes when the mileage is way off or the mileage is calculated using an impossible route(low bridge, truck restriction etc)
Thats when the problems start
"I 'm not going its my truck and the mileage is 40 miles off"
Disp" I don't know anything about that, are you refusing the load?"
"yes!"
Disp "Ok call me tomorro around 8am CLICK!" |
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sup
Joined: 26 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Sadly enough many dispatchers are on a kind of powertrip and like to control the miles. I had the last one saying to my question why i'm not getting enough miles: "I already put your miles up to 2600 a week from 2200. That's enough!" I called the boss and he started shouting instantly at the dispatcher about him getting tired of these stupid games. But it didn't help me getting more miles anyways.
You need good luck to find somebody reasonable and then build a relationship with one. |
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sup
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| Oh and if you refuse a load they will let you suffer for it, sometimes for a whole week and your miles will go doooooown. |
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marcel27208
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Im leased to a company and i dont refuse loads...when i ran the road i just told them that they were "underutilizing" me :D for the most part now i pick and choose what loads i do and get home everyday..for example im deadheading to williamsburg va from greensboro nc(220 miles) drp n hook take back to gre :D ensboro...and come back home :D |
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