DRUG TESTING PLEASE HELP

[Sheepdancer]

Just because you do the SAP thing doesnt mean you will automatically get another driving job. Most companies are still not going to hire you. Im sure you will be able to find something at some small company. However they might not pay you very well, because they are going to know that they are one of your only option.
It seems everytime I talk to a driver who has failed or refused a drug test and they are still driving, it seems they are always making between 20-23 cpm and some really small "questionable company"
Good luck.

[Useless]

USELESS you have no idea what your ranting about, My team driver worked in the medical field and for a co to discusss your medical history or any part of medical stuff in front of other drivers or anyone for that matter is a HIPPA violation you'd better read up on your medical Laws before you spew what you dont know so take your PEOPLE COURT and run down the road with it............................................anyw ays I have to see SAP in the Albany,NY area so I can return to i got a local non cdl job so to pay for it then me and the betterhalf will be running the road again.

Gee, TruckerMikee!!

Guess all of those years I spent getting my BSN (Nursing Degree), the years that I spent working as a health care professional, & the decades I've spent as an employer were all a waste; I should have attended "The University of Petro Truck Stop"!! As for HIPPA??

No "Fair Warning"?? HIPPA?? It'll be fun to see how far you get with that!!

So, you'll be "running the roads" after SAP?? Better get a good pair of jogging shoes, Mikee ( Mikee's NIKE's??) cause if you have any hopes of "running the roads" anytime in the forseeable future, it won't be in a big truck!!

Take the hint, Mikee; I'M not the one who is on the outside looking in!!

See ya' on "The People's Court"!!

[Useless]

I was told that afternoon by driver manager that I could go in the morning and he said OK. HE never said IMMEDIATLY or your terminated. I weould have left right away it was a MISCOMMUNICATION. now they are getting me for refusal due to his not wanting to be honest and saying it was misunderstood on both parts and there was NO FAIR WARNING no coupkle days in advance or I would have been there beforehand.
Im going to be in contact with DOT in washington im not letting this one lay down HIPPA rules even in effect they wanted me to discuss my medical situation in a room full of other drivers taking test. I was humilitated,embarrassed,shocked, they dumped me and my lady on the street with no way to get home SWIFT does not pay all to well anyways........now i wonder if i go home and get a local job how that will effect me, thanks for the comebacks I SHOULD HAVE WENT but he said I could go in the MORNING before my preplan now hes denying he said that.

Mikee;

I'm confused about something here. On one hand, you claim that you never arrived for the test.

Yet, if you look at the portion of your text that I highlighted, you claim that in violation of HIPPA they "wanted you to discuss your medical situation in a room full of other drivers taking tests.

Now, how could you be in that "room filled with other drivers" if you never showed up to take the test??
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[Useless]

Sorry, Double Post!!

[Jackrabbit379]

Sorry, Double Post!!

A useless post. :P :?

[Useless]

Sorry, Double Post!!

A useless post. :P :?

Well, Jackrabbit!!

What can I say?? Been super-busy as of late, (although I haven't been getting much accomplished!!) :sad: I've have had very little free time, & my post count has been languishing!!

Wonder how far Trucker Mikee got with his HIPPA complaints!! :shock:

[Jackrabbit379]

Yeah, I figured you been running like nutz.

I couldnt resist, though. 8)

[Useless]

Actually, Jack,

I've been doing verrrrrry little driving.....been working, but I have not been able to drive or fly for about the past 3 months. Been bummin' rides off of my wife, friends, & employees. I think I drove about 113 miles last MONTH!!

I came down with a nasty ear infection back in late Feb/early March....a long story, but to make it short, I had a growth and ulceration on my left. ear drum; it was causing equalibrium problems, hearing loss, (which was a bit scary; hearing is something most of us take for granted) physical malaise, etc....

Well, I had surgery yesterday morning; Doing better, my hearing is already getting better, but I'm rather physically drained. Busting ass, but it doesn't seem like I've really gotten all that much accomplished.

In any event, Trucker Mikee must be very busy dropping fries & flipping burgers, since we haven't heard from him.

I'm still perplexed by the fact that he has six years under his belt, but need a "couple of days fair warning"; Then, he goes on to whine about HIPPA, & them wanting to discuss his medical history history in front of other people. Now, if he never showed up for his drug test, then how could he complain that they were wanting to discuss his medical history in front of others??

Anyway, good to chat with you, my friend!!

Peace!!

[Twilight Flyer]

Wonder how far Trucker Mikee got with his HIPPA complaints!!

Last I heard, DOT sided with Swift and he's going through the SAP program.

[Ridge Runner]

Wonder how far Trucker Mikee got with his HIPPA complaints!!

Last I heard, DOT sided with Swift and he's going through the SAP program.

SAP program. They couldn't have named it any better.

[Twilight Flyer]

Well, if the guy really didn't do drugs, that's too bad he got himself into the situation. But where he screwed up was just in the common sense category. You have to know, especially if you've been doing it a while, that when they say it's random-time, you better be there with bells on. Now, the only one that knows whether he was dirty or not would be him...so a company is simply not going to take the risk.

[Useless]

Well, if the guy really didn't do drugs, that's too bad he got himself into the situation. But where he screwed up was just in the common sense category. You have to know, especially if you've been doing it a while, that when they say it's random-time, you better be there with bells on. Now, the only one that knows whether he was dirty or not would be him...so a company is simply not going to take the risk.

That's what I can't understand; Six years of driving, and he expects "a couple of days of fair warning"??

Man, the makers of "ReadyClean" would LOVE that!!

His story doesn't match up, and that really leads me to believe that there is much more here than meets the eye!!

[Jackrabbit379]

Good to see that you are here, and doing pretty good, Useless. I hope that everything works out good for ya. Always a pleasure, my friend. 8)

[Useless]

Well, still waiting to hear back from TruckerManMikee!!

Guess he had to take TWO burger flippin' jobs to make ends meet!!

[Fredog]

my boss called and said I was up for a random, but we werent going to miss a load over it, he said next time I got in early, to go and do it. it was the next week when I got around to it, I havent smoked pot in 30 years and never tried anything else, so I think I passed okay

[golfhobo]

my boss called and said I was up for a random, but we werent going to miss a load over it, he said next time I got in early, to go and do it.

No skin off my teeth, but your boss just broke the law. He's not allowed to tell you that in advance.

If you were wanting a raise, you might want to point this out to him, with a bit of Tony Soprano "squeeze" to go along with it!

[Useless]

You are correct there, Golf!!

.......but I HAVE known small Mom/Pop operations where some "prized" drivers were given "a heads up" regarding upcomming testing; usually in the form of some type of encrypted message, of makeshift "code".

[Fredog]

my boss called and said I was up for a random, but we werent going to miss a load over it, he said next time I got in early, to go and do it.

No skin off my teeth, but your boss just broke the law. He's not allowed to tell you that in advance.

If you were wanting a raise, you might want to point this out to him, with a bit of Tony Soprano "squeeze" to go along with it!

it's not against the law for the boss to tell you that you are up for a random drug test. what is he supposed to do, put a blindfold on you and take you for a surprise ride?

[kc0iv]

my boss called and said I was up for a random, but we werent going to miss a load over it, he said next time I got in early, to go and do it.

No skin off my teeth, but your boss just broke the law. He's not allowed to tell you that in advance.

If you were wanting a raise, you might want to point this out to him, with a bit of Tony Soprano "squeeze" to go along with it!

it's not against the law for the boss to tell you that you are up for a random drug test. what is he supposed to do, put a blindfold on you and take you for a surprise ride?

You might want to read section 382.305 (k)(1) and (l) : quoted below

(k)(1) Each employer shall ensure that random alcohol and controlled substances tests conducted under this part are unannounced.

(l) Each employer shall require that each driver who is notified of selection for random alcohol and/or controlled substances testing proceeds to the test site immediately; provided, however, that if the driver is performing a safety-sensitive function, other than driving a commercial motor vehicle, at the time of notification, the employer shall instead ensure that the driver ceases to perform the safety- sensitive function and proceeds to the testing site as soon as possible.

kc0iv

[Fredog]

my boss called and said I was up for a random, but we werent going to miss a load over it, he said next time I got in early, to go and do it.

No skin off my teeth, but your boss just broke the law. He's not allowed to tell you that in advance.

If you were wanting a raise, you might want to point this out to him, with a bit of Tony Soprano "squeeze" to go along with it!

it's not against the law for the boss to tell you that you are up for a random drug test. what is he supposed to do, put a blindfold on you and take you for a surprise ride?

You might want to read section 382.305 (k)(1) and (l) : quoted below

(k)(1) Each employer shall ensure that random alcohol and controlled substances tests conducted under this part are unannounced.

(l) Each employer shall require that each driver who is notified of selection for random alcohol and/or controlled substances testing proceeds to the test site immediately; provided, however, that if the driver is performing a safety-sensitive function, other than driving a commercial motor vehicle, at the time of notification, the employer shall instead ensure that the driver ceases to perform the safety- sensitive function and proceeds to the testing site as soon as possible.

kc0iv

so what part of that says it's illegal for your boss to tell you that your name came up? he probably should have waited until I got in to tell me, but he knows I dont do drugs and it wouldnt be a problem.