Cummins is now selling nearly twice as much engines as CAT

[Mackman]

G-man Mack still do make there own truck motors. They always did they never got out of it. The new MP motors i think are like 1/2 a mack and 1/2 volvo in one. :evil: I hear what you are say about the parts and service thing. For you OTR guys that would be something to think about.

[GMAN]

If I only drove local I would be more inclined to go with an engine that was made by one of the truck manufacturers. I didn't think Mack was still making engines. I thought they stopped due to the expense of meeting the new EPA regs.

[Mackman]

If I only drove local I would be more inclined to go with an engine that was made by one of the truck manufacturers. I didn't think Mack was still making engines. I thought they stopped due to the expense of meeting the new EPA regs.

http://www.macktrucks.com/default.aspx?pageid=1359

here some videos you can look at on MACK
http://www.macktrucks.com/default.aspx?pageid=2128

IS mack big out on the west cost. Im from PA macks home state so they are everywhere around here.

[GMAN]

I don't recall seeing so many Macks as other brands. I see a lot of Peterbilt's, Kenworth's, Volvo's, Freightliner's and International's. I seem to notice more Pete's, KW and Freightliners on the left coast. Many long haul drivers seem to prefer the hoods. Mack has mostly been known as a vocational truck rather than otr. When I was small I used to notice a lot of Macks. I always loved to see that bulldog.

[jonboy]

As far as the high costs of dealership repairs, I've only had a couple of small repairs, but the Freightliner and Cummins dealers have been in the $78 range.

I couldn't get my truck started in Liberal Kansas, and I called a road service guy (recommended by everybody), and he wanted $75 for service call and one hour minimum, for $165, to jump the truck? :evil:

I called the Freightliner dealer, and they came out and jumped the truck, and looked over my engine, and then I took it to the shop to have it scanned because I had a yellow check engine light flashing. It turned out to be a fuel pump code, and it had started coming on when I would coast down big hills and get above 75 mph. It would go off when I got on the gas. Anyway, it cost me $95 for the jump, scan, and some good advice.

I still haven't found an independent mechanic that will touch my Cummins ISX 450, and I don't need someone learning on my engine. It would appear to me that it could come out cheaper with a higher labor rate and less hours if the shop was more competent. I know it works that way in the automotive business (hence specialty shops).

jonboy

[heavyhaulerss]

these different engines are not much different than the... i'm a chevy man, or i'm a ford man. e.t.c. look at a ole 350 chevy motor & you can actually see it. open a hood on a ford & it's hard to see the motor or get to much of its components. i have had great luck & tremedous fuel mileage with my detroit. so i'll swear by it. same as i did by my gmc,s for years.

[allan5oh]

look at a ole 350 chevy motor & you can actually see it. open a hood on a ford & it's hard to see the motor or get to much of its components.

HAHAHA you're joking right? Have fun grabbing that distributor!

Also, have you seen under the hood of any camaro/firebird made since 93 with a v8?

I think it takes something like 8 hours to change plug wires!

[heavyhaulerss]

look at a ole 350 chevy motor & you can actually see it. open a hood on a ford & it's hard to see the motor or get to much of its components

was refering to the 70's type cars. i have a 73 gmc pickup & a 95 ford areo star. to change spark plugs on the ford.. had to take off doghouse, take off both front tires & go under hood & lay on ground & reach up thru manifold & got knows what else. also my 87 chevy was easy to get to also.

[Mandilon]

Also, have you seen under the hood of any camaro/firebird made since 93 with a v8?

I think it takes something like 8 hours to change plug wires!

Sorry to get off topic, BUT....

Did anyone see a survey/finding about 'dollar-for-dollar' value of all the cars in the world?

This was many moons ago (about 20 years?).

....any way Chevy came out 'the-worst-car-in-the-world' and Volvo 'the best.'

Anyone know the present ratings?

God Bless all!

[heavyhaulerss]

Chevy came out 'the-worst-car-in-the-world' and Volvo 'the best.'

nooooooooo way!!! VOLVO????? come on.