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    Twice now I have had companies tell me that they can't hire me due to having been terminated at my last driving job, which will show up as such on my DAC, undoubtedly. My last driving job ended in Jan. '07.

    It's been suggested by some that I look at a local job to get back into trucking. However, Kentucky isn't exactly a hotbed for hiring of any sort, regardless what industry, so I don't really see that as an option.

    Anyone have any suggestions? I've GOT TO get back into trucking. It's the only thing I can count on to give me a steady income without the job getting outsourced. Eventually, I'll get my own truck, but that's not an option right now. (When it does become an option, however, the super resources available here as information will be invaluable. MANY thanks to Gman, Merrick4, Sonny P, Steve, Loadit and the rest for the excellent posts.)
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    It depends on why they terminated you. Did you roll the truck? Too many "small" accidents/incidents? Beat some sense into your dispatcher (literally)?

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    I was just gonna ask the same thing. What were you fired for?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadhog View Post
    I was just gonna ask the same thing. What were you fired for?
    They had a clause in their hiring paperwork that said if you have an accident with damages that exceed $5k, you "can" be terminated. Sure enough, my only real accident and it was almost $8k from what they told me.

    The 2 companies I talked with that said they couldn't hire me made no differentiation between reasons for termination at the prior job. Their only take on it was whether I'd been terminated. PERIOD. I guess it wouldn't matter if I got fired for flipping the company owner off and mooned his wife. Terminated is terminated, all the same. The two companies were JBH and CRST.

    The accident was a rear-end on a 16-y.o. unlicensed driver who suddenly remembered that THIS is where she was supposed to turn. 60 MPH, empty trailer (no downforce on the trailer tandems for better braking) going through Ruidoso, NM to pick up a load in Clovis from El Paso.
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    You have a rear ender? Dude, repeat after me: "Would you like to supersize that order, sir?"

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    Gee. Jay.... thanks for the constructive suggestion.:flame:

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    Well...yeah... a rear ender is bad news...but it's not like you were fired for a criminal offense. (theft, assault, mooning the Boss, going to Vegas with his wife and credit cards)
    Being involved in an accident is every truckers worst nightmare.

    But you say these National companies don't even care what the circumstances were.
    My guess is you can thank the lawyers for this.

    If the new employer contacts the old employer, in some States it is illegal for the old employer to give out detailed information as to why you were fired.
    If he does give out this information, he can be sued.

    Some States, in fact, have passed laws protecting previous employer from liability when they make a good faith effort to communicate to a prospective employer the factual reasons why an employee was terminated, even if it reflects poorly on the employee.

    These National Companies may not have much going for them in dealing with various State laws. They may have decided it's just best to disqualify anyone with a termination from a past employer.

    Look for smaller companies, or Intrastate and local trucking, and see if you can at least get an interview with them.


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    Thanks, Roadhog. I guess what I am really looking for is advice on specific companies to try. As I said, Kentucky's not a hotbed of hiring activity, no matter if we're talking about McJobs or trucking. I DID see one job with RJ Corman I'll check into tomorrow. It's a combination railroad laborer/CDL driver job and I know RJC pays his folks very well. He owns a few spur lines in the region. Problem is... getting my CDL back if I can't find someone to assist who's already a licensed CDL driver. Can't rent a truck without a CDL and can't get the CDL without a truck.:roll:
    And yes... all I could think of as that truck wasn't stopping was the 4-wheeler's life was at stake and it was a thought I did NOT want to live with. I am more thankful than you can imagine that she was able to walk away.
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    Wish I could advise, but the way things are changing these days, it's all madness anymore, and you don't see much common sense.

    In Michigan, I was able to go to Star Truck Rental. There you can rent the Truck w/insurance just for the State CDL road test, and they schedule the State examiner. It cost me $250.

    That's how I got my license, and at least here you can still do that. (I think Star Truck is only Michigan)
    I don't know if any rental companies in your State can do the same thing.

    I can understand you seeking the job without the license, with the reasoning, maybe the new Boss will provide the truck?
    I've known guy's here take that approach too. Maybe check with some farmers in your area.
    Lots of these farmers have their own big rigs for harvest. Single O/O's who have their truck parked, because there is no money in freight right now... etc.

    You've given yourself about the best advise any of us can give... just keep trying.
    Maybe someone has some companies to suggest, but again, what their policies were a year ago, may be totally different today.


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    Have you considered leaving a slow employment state and relocating to better prospects like the oil and gas patch states of Wyoming or North Dakota? If employment isn't where you are, go where the jobs are. When trucking companies don't have enought butts for seats, rules loosen. BOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsphaltVoyager View Post
    They had a clause in their hiring paperwork that said if you have an accident with damages that exceed $5k, you "can" be terminated. Sure enough, my only real accident and it was almost $8k from what they told me.

    The 2 companies I talked with that said they couldn't hire me made no differentiation between reasons for termination at the prior job. Their only take on it was whether I'd been terminated. PERIOD. I guess it wouldn't matter if I got fired for flipping the company owner off and mooned his wife. Terminated is terminated, all the same. The two companies were JBH and CRST.

    The accident was a rear-end on a 16-y.o. unlicensed driver who suddenly remembered that THIS is where she was supposed to turn. 60 MPH, empty trailer (no downforce on the trailer tandems for better braking) going through Ruidoso, NM to pick up a load in Clovis from El Paso.
    Sitting in the same boat right now, but luckily I'm working in some capacity.
    CRST was who I originally went with and they gave me the whole, "5 yrs must pass from the date of accident."
    Then there were a few other companies like Knight, Stevens, FFE, Werner,. etc that gave me the "3 yr" rule.

    Right now I'm coming up on the 3rd accident(a rollover that was caused by another rig in UT) that will be hitting the 3rd yr mark in October.
    By then, my accident history should be a clean slate from 10/07 to 10/10.
    I'm putting in apps, but I'll get more aggressive about it come then(actually going down to terminal and such for a face2face).
    Weird thing is the fact that it's been almost three years and no record of the rollover has shown up on DMV H6 printout, but can't say the same about USIS, Driverfacts.,etc
    If that doesn't work, then that other mentioned option of ND or WY in the energy fields is totally on my exit plan(and many others getting fed up with this state).

    What I'm trying to say is put in applications as you must, but ultimately it's going to be a waiting game if you really want to get back in.
    Another thing you could do is go and get certified in welding and diesel tech at a local college.
    Those along with your CDL(if you still have it) will take you places.

    As far as fastfood goes, it's only one step away from an orange jumpsuit, stay away from it.(unless you work at In'N'Out where they actually make bank flipping patties.)

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    Checked on that job working for a great railroad company that's based just south of here. They're needing a railroad laborer/CDL driver. I filled out the application today and then took what amounts to a personality test afterward. They said they'd have to arrange an interview for a later time. This guy owns a boatload of short lines (50 to 60) across the South and when you've got that much track, there's always a section (or bunch of them) that need to be repaired/replaced. He may also have contracts with other lines in the southern region to do their repairs. I expect he needs flatbed, for the rails and ties, and low-boy drivers, for the heavy equipment. Looks like he runs Petes...384's if what I saw at the back of his lot is an indication. And they all looked brand new. I didn't see his jet copter anywhere, but his Learjet85 was sitting out for all to admire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sealord View Post
    Have you considered leaving a slow employment state and relocating to better prospects like the oil and gas patch states of Wyoming or North Dakota? If employment isn't where you are, go where the jobs are. When trucking companies don't have enought butts for seats, rules loosen. BOL
    Yessir, I did consider it. But, I also considered it would be hell trying to find someplace that would rent an apartment to me with no job / guaranteed income, too, if I was to move.

    There is no shortage of drivers, regardless of what myths the big companies try to sustain. Qualified, good drivers? Well... maybe. Qualified, good drivers who will drive for peanuts in all conditions and to all places? Um... NO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsphaltVoyager View Post
    They had a clause in their hiring paperwork that said if you have an accident with damages that exceed $5k, you "can" be terminated. Sure enough, my only real accident and it was almost $8k from what they told me.
    Your ONLY real accident?!? How many unreal accidents do you have? If there were a number of small accidents and/or load claims, then these could hurt very much.

    Also in another message on this thread you state you don't have a current CDL. Why is that? I know that as long as a CDL isn't allow to lapse, then it should only require a written test(s) to renew or even transfer to another state. Oh yes, a current medical certificate too.

    You have to be straight up with your postings here if anyone can truly help assist you. Same goes with the next employer.

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    That's an unfortunate situation to be in. Your CDL is your life. That's one reason that I only drive at night. Been hit twice by DUI's but luckily for me one was little damage and the other was in a cone zone with a Chippie near that had a great vantage point of the action. Scared the hell outta me and the Caltrans guys who took off running. :lol:

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    Dunno if you can...but my brother in law said there was a company near Lexington who run dump trucks. Said you get paid $100 by the load, etc. (that maybe with your own truck too)....i thought about it....be home nightly....etc...but i wanted something near Indianapolis or somewhere in Iowa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin0915 View Post
    Dunno if you can...but my brother in law said there was a company near Lexington who run dump trucks. Said you get paid $100 by the load, etc. (that maybe with your own truck too)....i thought about it....be home nightly....etc...but i wanted something near Indianapolis or somewhere in Iowa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danske View Post
    Your ONLY real accident?!? How many unreal accidents do you have? If there were a number of small accidents and/or load claims, then these could hurt very much.

    Also in another message on this thread you state you don't have a current CDL. Why is that? I know that as long as a CDL isn't allow to lapse, then it should only require a written test(s) to renew or even transfer to another state. Oh yes, a current medical certificate too.

    You have to be straight up with your postings here if anyone can truly help assist you. Same goes with the next employer.
    There's accidents and there's incidents. But regardless of what you call them, in the past 3 years I have 1, the one described. That's all that most companies care about anyhow -- 3 years record. Also have 1 ticket that still in in that timeframe -- missed the POE at Orogrande, although I did stop before passing it, as I was advised by the Washington St. trooper at Spokane POE. Didn't help. Still got the New Mex. ticket. I really HATE NM.issedoff:

    And yes, the CDL would have lapsed by now, even if I had not turned it in when I came to Kentucky.

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    I know this is not exactly related to the question, but I wonder why anyone would let their CDL lapse? To save a few bucks? Not worth it, while you may have to go through a refresher course after being out of the truck for so long, at least you are not on the hook again for thousands of bucks to get it back. Just my two cents.
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