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Cyanide 03-01-2005 08:26 AM

Tanker info for y'all...
 
Hello to all :D!!! Some of you may already know me from TruckNet or Pumkindriver, some may not. I've scanned this site for awhile now, and have noticed that many have questions about tankers, be it food-grade or chemical. I'm going to share my personal experiences here as I do on the other site for all to read. If anybody has other info that can be shared then PLEASE add it! The more the merrier!!!

Here's my limited tanker experience...
C.T.L. Distribution: Nov. 1999-Jan. 2000, then again from Aug. 2001-Nov. 2001.
Indian River Transport: June 2003-June 2004.
Jim Aartman Inc.: June 2004-July 2006.
Superior Carriers: August 2006...

Mind you, much of the following info applies to both chemical and food-grade tankers. I will note specific items of interest as necessary. Also, please note that the only companies who will take and train a new driver out of school with tankers to the best of my knowledge are, C.T.L. Distribution, Schneider, and Superior Carriers for chemicals, and Carry Transit for food-grade.

Detention/Load/Unload/Tankwash Pay:
This is generally more common with chemical tankers, yet several food-grade outfits do pay it. This is the #1 reason why I feel tanker is better than general freight hauling. In trucking you will sometimes be waiting hours on end loading or unloading, so why not get paid for it? Yes, many companies that pay this may require you to give up the first hour or two free, but after that you draw an hourly wage provided you were on time for your appointment. Some companies will pay their driver a flat rate, and then also detention after the required hours waiting.

The difference between tanker companies and freight companies that pay detention is that with tanker, if your company says they pay it, you get paid it. None of this "WE'LL PAY YOU DETENTION IF WE GET PAID IT." crap. Put together the hours you spend waiting to load/unload in a week, a month, or even a year and multiply that at say, $8/hour (after the first or even second hour) and see how much extra income that provides. If and when you have to take the tank to a washout facility then more pay for the miles there, and in the case of chemicals and some food-grade companies, pay for the tank wash itself.

Now concerning tank washes, unless the tank you're hauling is dedicated to one product, it must be washed out prior to reloading. In the case of chemicals, here's a golden rule of responsibility for a driver when accepting a tank...CLEAN, DRY, and ODOR-FREE. Clean for obvious reasons. Dry because moisture alone can have a very bad reaction with certain chemicals. Odor-free because if something can be smelled, the tank isn't clean! This rule also applies to ensuring that your hoses, fittings, and truck pump are the same after washing.

All chemical companies and several food-grade companies pay the driver for this when required to wait for the cleaning, but on the other hand, most food-grade companies do not. Many chemical companies will maintain a number of tanks at a tank wash facility so that a driver can come in, drop-and-hook the dirty for a clean one, and either get some rest or head out for their next load. Also, many companies use the tank wash facility as satellite yard locations. This comes in handy when you learn the network and locations, because it means that you almost always have a place to park and relax, sleep, shower, etc. without fighting for a spot at a truckstop.

Safety:
When pulling a tank, I don't worry about my dispatcher giving me a load that I couldn't get to it's destination "yesterday". If a situation arises where I can't make it there on time, a phone call is made and the receiver is notified. With chemicals you will get plenty of time to meet your scheduled appointments. Safety is paramount and will not be compromised! This also applies to winter driving (chaining). If the weather is bad enough for chains then it's time to get safely parked well before this situation arises.

Now the big difference in food-grade vice chemicals is that the schedules can be tight at times depending upon the product being hauled (eggs and raw milk are excellent examples due to potentially harmful bacteria counts from rising temperatures, and raw milk also deals with quality degradation...such as from Grade A to Grade B). Generally speaking though, drivers still get plenty of time to meet their delivery appointments WHEN they actually have one, as this is typically a first-come, first serve basis for unloading.

Legality:
Tanker drivers never worry about having an overweight load, much less trying to get axle weights proper. No more sliding tandems or worries about a bridge law!

As to logging, with chemical tanks and several food-grade companies you CAN AND WILL make a comfortable income logging events as they happen, due to getting paid for your time spent waiting on line four, on-duty, not driving (loading, unloading, tank wash, breakdown, etc.), and not being solely dependent upon mileage pay (for proof, see my figures after starting with Superior Carriers in August 2006).

Loading/Unloading:
Tanker drivers never deal with lumpers...period. With many food-grade companies this task is done entirely by the shippers and receivers, end of story. The driver's involvement requires nothing more than weighing in empty at the shipper or loaded at the receiver, giving their pickup or delivery number, pulling or backing into a bay (if live loading/unloading), getting loaded or unloaded and washed out, weighing out, getting their paperwork, checking seals, etc., and getting on the road.

With chemicals the procedure is similiar in the respect of weighing in at the shipper/receiver, paperwork, seals, etc. But after that entails much more responsibility during the loading/unloading procedure. The loading is usually done by the shipper and the driver's involvement usually requires opening the tank's dome lid and monitoring the product loading/unloading, pulling a sample, ensuring there are no leaks or spills, no defective equipment, etc. Yes, chemical tanker drivers (and some food-grade) may do the majority of the unloading. When this occurs, they're compensated for it (see above note).

Between running either a dry van, reefer, or chemical tank, it's simply no contest. I'd much rather hook up hoses and fittings, watch for leaks, pressurize my tank and ensure the pressure stays constant or ensure my pump functions properly during unloading, and finally clean out my equipment when finished then drag a pallet jack back and forth, slave over a floor load, break down and restack several different products, count pieces of freight, deal with multi-stop loads, wait long periods of time in a grocery warehouse/distribution center listening to the C.B. for a door assignment and/or to get loaded/unloaded, wondering what decision will be made for an O.S. & D. claim (Over, Short, and/or Damaged), and dealing with how much a lumper wants for unloading, knowing very well the company will pay them good but certainly not you or I (without lying on a lumper receipt). If I wanted some hard-earned money for physical labor I'd go either local L.T.L Pick-up and Delivery, or flatbedding.

I distinctly remember that I attended driving school to learn the following...inspect and drive a safe, road worthy tractor-trailer combination vehicle, ensure that the appropriate paperwork is done neat, complete, and that everything matches up, and deliver the customer's product safely while staying legal according to the guidelines set forth by the D.O.T. Remember always that C.D.L. does not stand for "Certified Driver Lumper"! I'm not a dock worker and regardless of how much "no touch freight %" a company has, or how high they say that they pay for driver unloading...no thanks.

Miles:
Miles...this definitely has two perspectives. For the most part, if you want to turn maximum miles then food-grade with an over-the-road company is usually the place to be, as you can get loads that typically are as long as van/reefer teams get. If you want to get decent miles yet be paid for all your work then go chemical. With food-grade you should be able to average 3,000 miles weekly, and with chemical 2,300 plus accesory pay. One way or another you keep the wheels moving, even if it's doing some local driving, where you will usually get paid a percentage of the load's cost (some companies pay mileage plus an additional short haul premium).

With many tankers, the wheels keep turning, even if it's deadheading 1,000+ miles for the next load, which may only be delivering another 200 miles away! The miles are very consistent in food-grade tanking and drivers simply do not sit around unless it's by choice. Many times you're already preplanned on a load a full day ahead of your delivery appointment or E.T.A., sometimes two. Food-grade companies always have stuff waiting to be picked up and delivered, especially if milk is a primary load (cows don't quite understand exactly what a day off is, much less holidays and vacations). If you can't get miles, then something is terribly wrong. With chemicals your mileage can fluctuate depending upon the time of the year, which is where all the accessory pay adds up!

Hometime:
I get it when I tell my company I want it, and I don't get messed with about the duration of time off I take. I also have had no problems with taking time off on the road when passing through somewhere a friend lives. As long as the load is getting picked up and delivered on-time, and out-of-route miles are minimal to none, this has never been an issue, nor should it be.

For general chemical tank info, most companies get their drivers home every week to week-and-a-half (unless a driver chooses to stay out longer), and have been doing so long before many freight companies figured out that drivers who get by the house more are usually a lot happier.

Shippers and Receivers:
Simply put, much more pleasent to deal with. Tanker drivers deal with people happy to see and work with them. As a normal O.T.R. driver hauling around a van or reefer can you say that on a consistent basis at a grocery warehouse, distribution center, automotive plant, etc.? I couldn't, and was in shock for my first several loads with a tank at the reception I got, be it chemicals or food-grade.

Manueverability:
Handling a tank compared to a 53-footer is a cake walk, especially through a truck stop. I have no worries about taking off someone else's hood due to trailer overhang when trying to back into a parking spot. I also have a better view of things around me and the trailer, and when going through some particular cities don't have to worry as much about low clearances.

Now I'll cover several of the NEGATIVES associated with tankers...

Assigned equipment:
That is, if it really is that much of an issue with you. If you are looking for a big condo sleeper you won't find it with this type of trucking, unless it is an O/O or possibly a team. Look around and you'll still see some trucks equipped with a tiny 42" to 50" flattop or midroof sleeper. However, many companies have started to spec their trucks more for driver comfort, as witnessed by going to a 60" to 70" midroof sleeper (see photo links attached to company info).

The main reasons behind this is weight and height requirements. You must remember that one, liquid weighs more than dry freight and that you WILL BE LOADED TO MAX ALLOWABLE WEIGHT, which can range anywhere from around 48,000 to 53,000 pounds worth of payload behind you depending on the product. Also, some food-grade and ALL chemical tank companies have equipment for unloading on the truck (hoses, fittings, pump, etc.), so you cannot have a super-size truck unless you're going to consistently pull a small tank, and that applies only to chemicals. Two, most chemical plants and many food-grade places of business have low clearance points and a condo sleeper just won't fit around in there. Now I'll touch on some of the other equipment many tanker drivers deal with...

Fittings are standard issue for a tanker-yanker who unloads. Fittings are necessary for connecting hoses to other hoses, loading, and converting larger/smaller units to the other for easier unloading. Examples of these would be a 3" and a 2" male-to-female connector, a 3" and a 2" male-to-male connector, a 3" and a 2" female-to-female connector, a 3" to 2" converter, a 2" to 1" converter, and a drum-unloading nozzle (looks like a gas pump handle). These are usually kept in a box on the back of the truck by the hose rack (see below), or mounted on the truck frame. However, some drivers keep their fittings in one of their sleeper side boxes.

Hoses are pretty much self-explanatory. Standard issue is usually (1) 20-foot section of 3" diameter, and (2) 20-foot sections of 2" diameter at a minimum. Some companies have a hose rack or box for storage of these on the back of the truck, some keep the hoses stored in the hose tubes on the tank itself. When I was with C.T.L. I had (4) sections of the 2" hoses in addition to the 3" section, just in case!

You'll also have a 50' section of 1" hose for air-pressure unloading when using the truck's air compressor. This one is so long because sometimes you may have to run this hose from your air compressor outlet hook-up to the rear of the tank.

Finally, you'll have an inlet and outlet hose for hooking up in-transient heat. This is necessary for several products where a certain temperature must be maintained. It's a simple process of cycling antifreeze through pipes located in the belly of the tanker after coming from your engine.

Hometime with equipment:
Another issue to some is that most chemical tanker and some food-grade companies will not let you take the truck home with you during your time off. Some won't even hire you if you don't live within a certain mileage radius of the nearest terminal, usually within a two-hour drive or less.

With chemicals you must remember what type of products you're dealing with and, what could potentially happen if someone were to start fooling around with the equipment and there was any residual product! Another factor with this is company's insurance requirements and liabilities.

Personal safety equipment:
This pretty much applies alone to chemicals. You'll be issued an acid suit, hardhat, goggles, safety glasses, extended length gloves, knee-high rubber steel-toed boots, and a respirator at a minimum. This is for your protection! However, in the summer your protective suit gets very hot and you'll sweat profusely. You'd best be drinking lots of water to stay hydrated. The last thing you need is to become a heat casualty while loading/unloading! In winter your suit will stiffen up (much like a flatbedder's tarps but on a lot smaller scale!) and can be hard to move around in. The faceshield on your hardhat can fog up if you don't take preventive measures, which can make monitoring your tank pressure gauge, hoses, and the storage tank level difficult.

From personal experience, P.P.E. works as advertised. Long story short, I had a hose rupture while unloading acid. Had I not been wearing the proper AND required gear, I would've received burns to my entire body, most notably my face, hands, and chest. The stuff works folks, so wear it. NEVER take a shortcut...it may just kill you.

Surge:
If you've never driven a tanker before, take a bottle and fill it up halfway or three-quarters. Turn it on it's side and move it back and forth. You now have surge on a much smaller scale. Now imagine that with anywhere from 3,500 to 6,500 gallons of product behind you! This is what we tank drivers deal with daily, and from personal experience is the number one cause of driver turnover during the first month of transition. This seems to cause uneasiness with drivers new to this type of driving, and even though it is easily controlled by simply altering driving habits, many cannot adapt to it and return to where they came from.

Surge will hold you back going up hill, and help push you down on the flip side (no pun intended). If you get into a situation where you must brake hard, expect to get pushed forward quite a few feet. You must always give yourself plenty of stopping distance, and then some. You must remember that with a tanker you literally have tons of centrifugal force working against you at all times that you are in motion (especially since most O.T.R. tankers are smoothbore, non-baffled). If you go into a corner or turn too fast, the product will "walk" up the inside tank wall and once it gets past the breaking point, there is no return...you're done. In extreme cases, you can turn too sharply as in jacking a trailer around in a parking lot and rollover also.

A tanker is not for everybody because the product behind you moves constantly. There are no load locks, straps, or chains to secure and hold the product in place. This is one reason many tanker companies require you to have at least one full year of experience before they'll hire you. With many food-grade companies, most want at least two years of all-weather and mountain experience, since many of the runs are very fast-paced and require driving as hard as legally possible. Generally speaking, it's too dangerous to stick an inexperienced driver with 48,000 plus pounds of liquid behind him/her when you're in the beginning stages of learning how to handle a tractor-trailer combination vehicle.

Miles:
You may ask why I put miles here, as well in the advantages section... Here's why, and it pertains more to food-grade than chemicals. With food-grade companies such as Jim Aartman, Bynum, and Indian River/North American Tank Lines, drivers DO NOT load or unload the product or anything associated with that procedure except for weighing in/out, and pulling/backing into a loading bay. The driver's job entails picking up and delivering the product they're transporting safely, and that's it. Remember that as an average each trip is going to be between 1,300-2,000 miles (from personal experience), their freight lanes take them across many 70-75 m.p.h. states, and that their trucks are capable of running those speed limits. What this means is that you should realistically expect to put in a minimum of 600 to 660 miles daily with one of those carriers. Sometimes you'll push upwards of 700 to 750, and sometimes you can slack a little.

However, if you are coming from a carrier governed around 65 m.p.h. and are used to running only 550 to 600 miles daily at maximum, this may and/or will be quite an adustment and may lead many to think they are dispatched and/or run illegal. NOT SO!!! Remember this...
1. Eggs, milk, and juice in bulk liquid form are very temperature-sensitive products that, barring extreme cold weather, can only be kept at a safe temperature for so long by the tank's insulation. This isn't the same as keeping these products loaded in the back of a reefer, where you can maintain a set temperature, allowing for longer transit times.
2. Provided a driver maintains at least 60 m.p.h. for all of their DRIVING every run can be done legally. This includes daily, the required 10-hour break plus a half hour for doing your pre-trip inspection and fueling. Even dropping to and maintaining 52 m.p.h. allows for legal delivery as set forth by the load appointments I was personally assigned.
3. As stated before, many food-grade loads can be treated on a first come, first serve basis for unloading. The drivers still have appointments like everyone else, but they are usually appointment dates (many of the loads you'll read about in my posts when running food-grade were delivered a day earlier than scheduled.).

If you have any doubts about being able to push hard consistently day in and day out, then you may seriously want to think very hard before ever hauling food-grade tankers. Once again, it's not for everyone, but remember, different strokes for different folks....

Miscellaneous:
We tanker-yankers are not exactly normal, depending what your definition of that is. Hauling a tank does require A LOT of safety awareness, discipline, and responsibility (okay, and maybe a few loose nuts and bolts). This isn't a knock against any other type of driver, but some just don't want to deal with that. There are some drivers who would just rather open a couple of doors and bump a dock, and some who would rather throw straps, chains, and/or tarps. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Everyone must choose what suits them, and only them, best.

However, there are the ones that no matter how fast it is, it's not fast enough. They've always gotta go, go, go. Get in a hurry here and you are an accident waiting to happen. Excessive speed and throwing caution to the wind makes you very prone to flipping a tank just for taking an off ramp or turn too fast. That 50,000 plus pound "gorilla" in the tank will happily jump up the inside wall and well, you can imagine the rest... No thanks. I'll be happy taking a little longer to get up to the posted speed limit, taking my turns very slowly, slowing down way in advance of that stop ahead, etc. If another driver chooses to complain about a tanker holding them up, tough. The safety of myself and my fellow people on the road are much more important than some "outlaw" crying because they didn't plan accordingly...Proper Planning Prevents Pizz Poor Performance!

Yes, I repeated some stuff I just mentioned because the moment you lose respect for what's behind you, you are done. That cannot be stressed enough.

For all to remember, chemical tankers generally get paid for everything related to work (similar to a union job), whereas food-grade has greater potential for more miles, yet no accessory pay (depending on the company).

If you discover that you like tank but not hauling hazmat then switch to food-grade after you get your time in. Many food-grade drivers got their start doing just that...myself included for a time :wink:.

If you discover that tank is not for you for whatever reason, IMHO, you can go to dry van or reefer with a much greater sense of awareness and safety than many other drivers of equal experience because of your time pulling a tanker.

The following is information about what a few tanker companies have to offer...

CHEMICAL
CTL DISTRIBUTION (1 year O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT, or, Student grad from approved school)
Starting mileage pay (Short Miles):
.30

Longevity Pay (multiplied by gross pay, then added to total):
4-6 months: + 2.5%
7-12 months: + 4%
1-2 years: + 6.5%
2-3 years: + 9%
4-6 years: + 11%
7+ years: +13%

Detention Pay (after 1 hour):
$8.75/hour.

Tank Wash Pay
$24 (full tank wash)
$12 (pump and/or hoses, fittings only)

Short-Haul Pay (loads under 75 miles):
$40 minimum

Breakdown Pay:
$8.75/hour.

Layover Pay (after 24 hours):
$75/day.

Holiday Pay (after 90 days):
$60/day for six holidays.

Funeral Pay (after 30 days):
$60/day for 3 days.

Training Pay:
$400/week for up to four weeks, as deemed necessary by trainer.

Quarterly Safety Bonus:
$300.

Vacation Pay:
Paid average weekly earnings.
1 Week at 1 year.
2 weeks at 2 years.
3 weeks at 7 years.
4 weeks at 20 years.

Time Off:
7-10 days out, 1-2 days off.

Insurance (after 90 days):
Health Insurance:
Single plan ???
Family plan ???

Dental Insurance:
Single plan: ???
Family plan: ???

Vision Insurance:
???

Life and Disability Insurance:
???

401k Plan (After 1 year):
Company matches 50% of 6%.



DANA-SUTTLES(1 year O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT)
Starting pay:
22.5%

Loading/Unloading/Detention Pay (after 2 hours):
$15/hour.

Breakdown Pay:
???

Layover Pay:
???

Holiday Pay:
$120/day for eight major holidays.

Vacation Pay:
Paid average weekly earnings.
1 week at 1 year.
2 weeks at 5 years.
3 weeks at 10 years.

Time Off:
7-12 days out, 2-3 days off.

Insurance (after 90 days):
Health, Dental, Prescription, and Life Insurance:
Single plan $11.22/week.
Family plan $30.85/week.

401k (after 1 year):
Company matches 50% of 4%.



HIGHWAY TRANSPORT (1 year O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT)
Starting mileage pay (Practical Route Miles):
.38 (Loads over 501 miles, loads under 501 miles paid according to sliding scale but the minimum load pay varies by terminal from $50-100.)

Loading/Unloading Pay (after 1 hour):
$15.50/hour.

Tank Wash Pay (after 1 hour):
$12/hour.

Sleeper Berth Pay:
$15 for each night used.

Local Pay:
$15.50/hour.

Extra Stop Pay (after 1st pickup/drop):
$16/each.

Weather Delay Pay (after 4 hours, max of 8 hours per 24 hour period):
$12/hour.

Layover Pay (after 16 hours):
$12.00/hour. First sixteen hours free, then paid eight.

Holiday Pay:
$64/day for eight major holidays.

Training Pay:
$100/day for up to four weeks, as deemed necessary by trainer.

Vacation Pay:
Paid average weekly earnings.
1 Weeks at 1 year.
2 weeks at 3 years.
3 weeks at 10 years.

Time Off:
5-7 days out, 1-2 days in.

Insurance (after 90 days):
Health, Dental, Vision, Prescription, and Life Insurance:
Employee only plan: $22/bi-weekly.
Employee + 1 plan: $102.
Employee + 2 plan: $132.
Employee + 3 plan: $149.

401k Plan (After 3 months, company match dependent upon length of service):
0-1 year: 20% of 6%.
1-3 years: 30%
3-5 years: 40%
5+ years: 50%



MILLER TRANSPORT (1 year O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT)
Starting mileage pay (Short Miles):
.395 Loaded/.275 Empty

Loading/Unloading/Detention Pay:
$13.05/hour.

Local Pay (loads 50 miles or less):
$13.05/hour.

Tank Wash Pay:
$11.65/hour.

Sleeper Pay:
$10/night.

Per Diem Pay:
$3.75/hour for on-duty hours away from home

Breakdown Pay:
$11.65/hour for eight hours, then fourteen hours free (during which layover pay goes into effect at fifteenth hour).

Layover Pay (after 14 hours):
$11.65/hour. First fourteen hours free, then paid eight hours, then ten hours free, then paid eight, etc..

Holiday Pay:
$93.20/day for eight major holidays.

Vacation Pay:
Paid average weekly earnings.
1 week at 1 year.
2 weeks at 5 years.
3 weeks at 10 years.
4 weeks at ??? years.
5 weeks at ??? years.

Time Off:
8-10 days out, 2-3 days in.

Insurance:
??? (website says company-paid health, dental, vision, and life but doesn't state for driver only or driver and family. Unable to get this info...)

401k Plan:
??? (Website says company-paid pension, but there no details pertaining to it. Unable to get this info...).



SCHNEIDER NATIONAL (1 year O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT, Student grad from approved school, or, Schneider school grad)
Starting mileage pay (solo), student rate after completion of training (Short Miles):
0-6 months: .29 (Southeast pay scale)....32 (Normal pay scale)
7 months-1year: .31..............................34
1-2 years: .35.......................................36
2-3 years: .36.......................................37
3-4 years: .37.......................................38
4-5 years: .38.......................................39
5-6 years: .39.......................................40
6-7 years: .40.......................................41
7-8 years: .41.......................................42
8 + years: .005 increase annually every other year, capping at 30 years.

Loading/Unloading/Detention Pay:
$25 per live load/unload, then $10/hour after 3 hours.

Tank Wash Pay:
$20

Short-Haul Pay (in addition to mileage and accessory pay):
0-100 miles: $40
101-200 miles: $20
201-300 miles: $10

Breakdown Pay (after 24 hours):
$70-90 (depending on experience), then after eight hours $40 allowance for hotel.

Layover Pay (after 24 hours):
$70-90 (depending on experience), then after twenty-four hours $40 motel allowance.

Canada Border Crossing Delay Pay (after 2 hours):
$20, then $10 each additional hour.

Holiday Pay:
$40/day for six major holidays.

Funeral Pay:
$40/day for three days for funeral of family member.

Training Pay:
$300/week for three weeks.

Quarterly Safety Bonus:
0-1 year: $300
1+ years: $600

Vacation Pay:
Paid average weekly earnings.
1 Week at 1 year.
2 weeks at 2 years.
3 weeks at 7 years.
4 weeks at 15 years.

Time Off:
12-14 days out, 3 days in.

Insurance :
Health (after 90 days for inexperienced drivers, immediately for experienced drivers):
Option 1: Single plan $20.33/week, Family plan (1 dependent) $61.81, Family plan (2+ dependents) $75.21.
Option 2: .................$13.97........................... ......................$45.40...................... ......................$53.08.
Option 3: .................$35.80........................... ......................$81.06...................... ......................$98.38.

Dental (after nine months for inexperienced drivers, immediately for experienced drivers):
Single Plan: $1.65/week.
Driver and Child: $4.24.
Driver and Spouse: $4.46.
Family: $4.70.

Vision and Life Insurance (after 90 days for inexperienced drivers, immediately for experienced drivers):
Company paid.

Addtional insurance offered (Disabilty, Supplemental life, etc.)

401k Plan (after 90 days):
Company matches 50% of the first 4%, then 100% match on 5th% and 6th%. Company match maxes at $2,500 annually.



SUPERIOR CARRIERS, INC. (1 year O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT, or, Student grad from approved school in top 3% of class)
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Starting mileage pay (Practical Route Miles):
.38 Loaded/.34 Empty.
***Oct. 02, 2006: .40 Loaded/.34 Empty

Loading/Unloading Pay (All live loads):
$20 first 2 hours, then $12.91/hour.
***Oct. 02, 2006: $20 first 2 hours, then $13.29/hour

Drop/Hook Pay (For load pickups/drops):
$5 each, $10 full drop and hook.
Note...if a driver is delayed more than 45 minutes during a drop and hook at a customer due to the load not being ready, waiting for security, paperwork, sample results, etc. then the driver will be paid the $20 live load flat rate.

Tank Wash Pay:
$12.91/hour.
Note...almost all tank washes involve dropping dirty tank and/or hooking a clean tank. If the driver is delayed more than 45 minutes due to waiting for their assigned tank to be cleaned then the driver will be paid the $20 live load flat rate.
***Oct. 02, 2006: $13.29/hour.

Breakdown Pay:
$12.91/hour.
Breakdown pay will be paid until the driver goes into a hotel if necessary due to an extended breakdown situation, then will go on layover pay schedule.
***Oct. 02, 2006: $13.29/hour.

Sleeper Berth Pay:
$8 for each night used.
***Oct. 02, 2006: $10/night

Canada Border Crossing Pay:
$15 first hour, then $12.91/hour.
***Oct. 02, 2006: $15 first hour, then $13.29/hour

Local Pay (Loads under 76 miles of domiciled terminal. Also, 51% of your loads must be "local" to be paid this rate, otherwise will be paid hourly rate.):
$14.60/hour.

Layover Pay (after 15 hours):
$12.91/hour (103.28 each full paid 8-hour period), plus hotel during layover. First fifteen hours free, then paid eight, then ten free, then paid eight, etc if necessary.
***Oct. 02, 2006: $13.29/hour ($106.32)

Holiday Pay, Bereavement Pay, Jury Duty Pay:
$103.28/day
Nine major holidays, one floating holiday, and three days for funeral of family member.
***Oct. 02, 2006: $106.32/day.

Personal Days (after 30 days):
$103.28/day
0-5 years: 2 days.
5+ years: 5 days.
***Oct. 02, 2006: $106.32/day.

Training Pay (Depending upon experience):
Experienced drivers: $12.91/hour all on-duty hours.
Inexperienced drivers: $100/day for up to six weeks, as deemed necessary by trainer.
Also, within sixty (60) days of hire, driver must attend the company's five-day safety and orientation course in Kingsport, TN. Driver will be provided company-paid lodging and training pay. If driver fails course they will be immediately terminated and not eligible for re-hire.

Vacation Pay:
$700.80/week.
2 Weeks at 1 year.
3 weeks at 8 years.
4 weeks at 16 years.
5 weeks at 24 years.

Time Off:
5-7 days out, 1-2 days in.

Insurance (after 30 days):
Health, Dental, and Prescription Insurance:
Single plan $25/week.
Family plan $37/week.

Life and disability insurance are paid for by the company.

Vision Insurance:
Not available. However, employee will receive a discount for services using medical benefits.

401k Plan (Open enrollment every quarter. Company automatically enrolls driver at 3% unless other amount requested or driver declines enrollment):
Company matches 50% up to a max of $600 annually.

Profit Sharing Plan (After 1 year)




TIDEWATER TRANSIT (1 year O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT)
Starting mileage pay (Practical Route Miles):
.41 Loaded/.25 Empty.

Per Diem Pay:
$40 per day out. Pay is NOT TAXED.

Loading/Unloading Pay:
$10 first 2 hours, then $14.75/hour.

Tank Wash Pay:
$25.

Quarterly Bonus:
$300.

Local Pay:
$14.70/hour.

Layover Pay:
???

Holiday Pay:
$50/day for six major holidays.

Vacation Pay:
Paid average weekly earnings.
1 Weeks at 1 year.
2 weeks at 3 years.
3 weeks at 10 years.

Time Off:
5-7 days out, 1-2 days in.

Insurance:
???

401k Plan:
???

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FOOD-GRADE
JIM AARTMAN INC., Line Haul Division (1 year O.T.R. required)
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Starting mileage pay (Practical Route Miles):
0-6 months: .32
7 months-1 Year: .33
1+ years: .34

Per Diem:
$54 per day out. Pay is NOT TAXED.

Layover Pay (after 48 hours, retroactive to first 24 hours):
$50.

Quarterly Mileage Bonus (based upon the driver's average weekly miles):
2,000 miles or less: No Bonus.
2,001-2,799 miles: .01
2,800-3,500 miles: .03
6-11 years: + .01
11+ years: + .02

Vacation Pay:
Paid average weekly taxable earnings.
1 week at 1 year.
2 weeks at 3 years.
3 weeks at 8 years.

Holiday Pay (Must be dispatched under a load):
$100 each for New Year's Day, Easter Sunday, Labor Day, Thanksgiving Day, and Christmas.

Time Off:
(CA-based trucks) 10-14 days out, 2-3 days in.
(FL-based trucks) 3 weeks out, 3-4 days in.

Rider Program (after 90 days):
Age 10+, immediate family members.

Insurance (After 90 days).
Health and Life Insurance:
Single plan $25/month.
Family plan $280/month.

Dental and Vision Insurance:
Single plan $25/month.
Family plan $50/month.

Insurance Credit:
$200/month paid to employee who has proof of coverage from elsewhere (spouse, retirement benefits, etc.) in lieu of taking company-offered health, dental, and vision insurance plans.

AFLAC supplemental insurance also available.

401k (After 1 Year):
Company matches 100% of first 5% driver contributes.

Operating Area:
(CA-based trucks) California to the Midwest, Midwest to California, Midwest to the Southeast, Southeast to California.
(FL-based trucks) Southeast to the Midwest, Southeast to TX, Midwest to the Southeast, TX to the Southeast, Florida to California, California to the Midwest.



JIM AARTMAN INC., D.F.A. Dedicated Milk Division (1 year O.T.R. required)
Starting mileage pay (Short Miles):
0-6 months: .33
6 months-1 year: .34
1-2 years: .35
2-4 years: .36
4+ years: .365

Semi-Annual Mileage Bonus:
.01 all miles.

Cellphone Pay:
$30/month (D.F.A. fleet doesn't have qualcomm on trucks).

Time Off:
7-10 days out, 2-3 days in.

All other pay and benefits are the same as line-haul division.

Operating Area:
MO, IN, IL, WI, MN, MI, OH, KY, TN, GA, NC, SC, VA, PA, MD, Western/Upstate NY.



BYNUM TRANSPORT (2 years O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT)
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Starting Mileage Pay (Practical Route Miles):
0-1 year: .28
1-2 years: .29
2-3 years: .30
3+ years: .31

Per Diem Pay:
.07 of your mileage pay is NOT TAXED.

Layover Pay (after 48 hours, then retroactive to first 24 hours):
$50

Annual Safety Bonus:
$1,000

Vacation Pay:
$300.
1 week after 1 year.
2 weeks after years.

Timeoff:
2-3 weeks out, 2-4 days in.

Rider Program:
Spouse only.

Insurance (after 90 days)
Health, Life, and Vision Insurance:
Single plan $26/week.
Family plan $176.76/week.

Dental Insurance:
Single plan: $5.50/week.
Family plan $17.34/week.

401k plan (After 6 months):
Company matches 25% of first 6% driver contributes.

Operating Area:
Florida to California, Florida to the Midwest, Florida to the Northeast, Florida to TX, California to the Northeast, California to Florida, Midwest to the Southeast, Northeast to the Southeast, Northeast to the Northwest, Northeast to Canada, TX to the Southeast.




CALEDONIA HAULERS (1 year O.T.R. AND driver school, or 2 years O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT)
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Starting Mileage Pay (Practical Route Miles):
0-90 Days: .33
90 Days-6 Years: .35, providing they have had no accidents (see 90 Day Probationary Section for more information).
6-7 Years: .355 (see 90 Day Probationary Section for more information).
7-8 Years: .36 (see experienced/current drivers Probationary Section).
8-9 Years: .365
9-10 Years: .37
10-11 Years: .375
11+ Years: .38
*All current drivers that have 90 days or more will automatically jump to $.35/mile. Any driver that is currrently on probation will not get this raise until their probation is completed.

Detention Pay (After 3 hours, and only if the customer pays detention):
$10/hour with a maximum of $150 per 24 hour period.

Layover Pay (After 24 hours, not including driving time):
$100.

Annual Mileage Bonus:
.01/mile for all miles.

Holiday Pay (After 3 years, OR, any full-time driver dispatched and under a load):
$100 each for New Year's, Easter, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.

Vacation Pay:
Paid average weekly earnings.
1 week after 1 year.
2 weeks after 2 years.
3 weeks after 10 years.
4 weeks after 20 years.

Funeral Pay:
$100 per day.

Time Off:
Drivers will be allowed 6 days off per month starting on the first day of the month to the last day of the month. These 6 days include your weekends off. Drivers will not be able to carry over any unused days the following months. Any additional days will be charged to the driver to cover the cost of the health insurance premiums. The per day amount will be deducted from their first paycheck of the following month. Drivers will be charged per day for excessive time off to cover the cost of health insurance premiums. The charge per day will be $13.32 for those that have single coverage and $33.18 for those that have family coverage.

Rider Program (after 6 months):
$3.50/day, age 9+.

Insurance (after 90 days):
Health, Dental, Vision, and Life Insurance:
Single plan:$30/week.
Single +1 plan: $50/week.
Family plan: $70/week.

401k Plan (After 1 year):
The company will match 50% of the amount put into the plan by the employee, up to the first $1,200 for a maximum contribution by the company of $600.

Operating Area:
Midwest to California, California to Midwest, Midwest to Southeast, Southeast to Midwest, Midwest region.

Clothing Allowance (After 90 days, Part-Time & Full-Time employees will be eligible for a clothing allowance to purchase any merchandise that Caledonia Haulers, Inc. has available.CAN NOT BE ROLLED OVER FROM YEAR TO YEAR):
Full-Time Employees - $100/calendar year
Part-Time Employees - $50/calendar year

***Experienced and Current Drivers Probationary Section:
Each probationary period will start on the date the accident occured. It will be based on each driver's years of service, history with the company and cost or seriousness of the accident.
Minor Accident(anything under $2500):
The cost of the accident will be deducted from their annual Performance Bonus.
Placed on 6 months probation starting from date of the accident.
No pay increase until off probation.

Major Accident (anything $2500 or more):
Possible Termination.
1 Year Probation starting from date of the accident.
Loss of entire Performance Bonus.
No pay increase until off of probation.

***90 Day Probationary Section (If a driver has an accident during the first 90 days of employment the following will apply):
Minor Accident (anything under $2500):
Possible Termination.
6 months Probation starting from date of the accident.
Loss of 1/2 of the Sign On Bonus.
The cost of the accident will be deducted from their annual Performance Bonus.
Go to .34/mile after the first 90 days, until off probation.

Major Accident (anything $2500 or more)
Possible Termination.
1 Year Probation starting from the date of the accident.
Loss of entire Sign on Bonus.
Loss of entire Performance Bonus.
Stay at .33/mile until of probation.



CARRY TRANSIT (1 year O.T.R. required, or, Student grad from approved school in top 3% of class. Superior Carriers sister company)
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Starting pay (Practical Route Miles):
.38 Loaded/.29 Empty (Loaded/empty miles over 120 miles).
24% (loaded miles under 120 miles)

Loading/Unloading Pay:
$10 first 2 hours, then $14.42/hour.

Tank Wash Pay:
$15.

Breakdown Pay:
$14.42/hour.
Breakdown pay will be paid until the driver goes into a hotel if necessary due to an extended breakdown situation, then will go on layover pay schedule.

Canada Border Crossing Pay:
$15 first hour, then $14.42/hour.

Local Pay:
$14.42/hour.

Layover Pay (after 16 hours):
$14.42/hour (115.36 each full paid 8-hour period), plus hotel during layover. First sixfteen hours free, then paid eight, then sixteen free, then paid eight, etc if necessary.

Holiday Pay, Bereavement Pay, Jury Duty Pay:
$115.36/day
Six major holidays, and three days for funeral of family member.

Training Pay:
$10/hour for up to three weeks, as deemed necessary by trainer. Must also complete orientation and safety course in Kinsport, TN (see Superior Carriers).

Vacation Pay:
$692.16/week.
1 Week at 1 year.
2 weeks at 3 years.
3 weeks at 8 years.

Time Off:
5-7 days out, 1-2 days in.

Insurance (after 30 days):
Health and Dental Insurance:
Single plan $25/week.
Family plan $37/week.

Life and disability insurance are paid for by the company.

Vision Insurance:
Not available. However, employee will receive a discount for services using medical benefits.

401k Plan (After 3 months):
Company matches 50% up to a max of $600 annually.

Profit Sharing Plan (After 1 year)



INDIAN RIVER TRANSPORT (2 years O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT)
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Starting Mileage Pay (Short Miles):
0-1 year: .32
1-2 years: .33
2-3 years: .34
3+ years: .35

Per Diem Pay:
.08 of your mileage pay is NOT TAXED.

Layover Pay (after 48 hours, then retroactive to first 24 hours):
$50.

Annual Safety Bonus:
$500.

Vacation Pay:
$500.
1 week after 1 year.
2 weeks after 5 years.

Timeoff:
2-3 weeks out, 2-4 days in.

Rider Program (after 90 days):
Spouse only.

Insurance (after 30 days)
Health Insurance:
Single plan $40/week.
Family plan $80/week.

Dental and Life Insurance:
Single plan $5/week.
Family plan same.

Vision insurance:
Not available.

401k plan (After 1 year):
Company will match $1,000 to the first $2,000 driver contributes.

Operating Area:
Florida to California, Florida to the Northeast, Florida to Canada, California to the Midwest, California to the Northeast, Midwest to the Southeast, Midwest to the Northeast, Northeast to the Southeast.



NORTH AMERICAN TANK LINES (Indian River Transport subsidary)
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Starting Mileage Pay (Short Miles):
0-1 year: .34
1+ years: .35

Per Diem Pay:
.05 of your mileage pay is NOT TAXED.

Quarterly Safety Bonus:
$250.

All other pay, benefits, and operating area are the same as Indian River Transport.



JOHNSRUD (5 Years O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT)
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Starting Mileage Pay (Short Miles):
.35. Annual increases available with no pay cap, ranging from .005 to .02 annually dependent upon driver's performance and service.

Per Diem:
5.5 cents of your mileage pay is NOT TAXED.

Loading/Unloading, US/Canada Crossing Delay Pay (After 2 hours, dependent upon years of service):
0-1 yr: $10/hour.
2 yrs: $11/hour.
3 yrs: $12/hour.
4 yrs: $13/hour.
5 yrs: $14/hour.
6 yrs: $15/hour.
7 yrs: $16/hour.
8+ yrs: $17/hour.

Tank Wash Pay (After 1 Year, with exception of company tank wash sites):
$11 flat rate, and increases with years of service. Paid according to detention pay schedule. .

Stop Off Pay:
Paid an extra $25 for each stop after initial pickup and delivery.

Layover Pay:
Paid $25 for first 24 hour period, then $55 each additional 24 hours. This pay is NOT TAXED.

Breakdown Pay:
$25 each 24 hours. This pay is NOT TAXED.

Quarterly Fuel Bonus:
Ranges from .005 to .03/mile and is paid as a flat rate based on your mpg. The required mpg is adjusted for seasonal changes.

Holiday Pay (Must be dispatched under a load):
$50 each for New Years, Memorial Day, 4th of July, and Labor Day.
$100 for Thanksgiving.
$250 for Christmas.

Vacation Pay:
$520.
1 week at 1 year.
2 weeks at 2 years.
3 weeks at 5 years.
4 weeks at 15 years.

Bereavement Pay (in the event of the death of an immediate family member.):
$104 for 3 days.

Time Off:
7-10 days out, 1-2 days in.

Rider Program:
???

Additional Benefits:
Insurance (After 60 days and company contributes over $3500 towards your health insurance (United Health Care) plus $15,000 of Life Insurance.).
Health Insurance:
Single plan $15.09/week.
Family plan $49.37/week.

Dental Insurance:
Single plan $14.48/month.
Family plan $34.62/month.

Vision Insurance:
Single plan $8.65/month.
Family plan $19.10/month.

AFLAC, Supplemental Life Insurance, Short Term Disability, and Long Term Disability also available.

401k (After 1 Year):
Retirement plan available with company Board resolution possible for matching funds.

Operating Area:
Midwest to California, Midwest to Northeast, Midwest to Southeast, California to Midwest, Northeast to Midwest, Northeast to Midwest, Southeast to Midwest, Southeast to Northeast, Midwest region.




LCL BULK TRANSPORT (2 years O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT)
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***LCL is changing their pay package in late July '06 , I'll update it asap***
Starting mileage pay (HHG Miles):
0-1 year: .315
1-2 years: .32
2-3 years: .3275
3-4 years: .3375
4-5 years: .34
5+ years: .345

Loading/Unloading Pay, Tank Wash Pay:
0-1 year: $11.50 first 2 hours, then $11.50/hour.
1-2 years: $11.75 first 2 hours, then $11.75/hour.
2-3 years: $12.00 first 2 hours, then $12.00/hour.
3+ years: $12.25 first 2 hours, then $12.25/hour.

Layover Pay (as explained to me by a friend who drives here):
You are paid per diem for the last 8 hrs of the 1st 24 you are laid over($41 ???). But, you are then paid your hourly rate for the 1st 8 hours of the 2nd 24-hour period. And you do not need to be off the full 48. So, being laid over 32 hrs pays $135. This applies to loaded and empty layover.

Breakdown Pay:
$11.50/hour.

Quartely Mileage Bonus:
.015 for all miles.

Holiday Pay:
Paid according to hourly loading pay rate (x10 hours) for New Year's, Memorial Day, July 4th, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.

Personal Days (after 120 days):
Paid according to hourly loading pay rate (x10 hours) for 2 days.

Vacation Pay:
Paid average weekly earnings.
1 Week at 1 year.
2 weeks at 2 years.

Time Off:
7-10 days out, 1-2 days off.

Rider Program:
Immediate family.

Insurance (after 90 days):
Health, Dental and Vision Insurance:
Single plan $24/week.
Single and Children: $44/week.
Single and Spouse: $46/week.
Family plan $66/week.

Life and Short-term disability insurance also available.

401k/Profit Sharing Plan (After 1 year):
Company match varies depending upon company productivity.

Operating Area:
Northeast to Midwest, Midwest to Northeast, Northeast to California, California to Midwest, California to Northeast, Northeast to Southeast, Southeast to Northeast, Southeast to Midwest, Northeast region.



OAKLEY TRANSPORT (2 years O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT)
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Starting Mileage Pay (Short Miles):
0-1 year: .31
1-2 years: .32
2-3 years: .33
3-4 years: .34
4-5 years: .345
5-6 years: .35
6-7 years: .355
7-8 years: .36
8-9 years: .365
9+ years: .37

Monthly Incentive Pay (Must run minimum of 10,000 miles monthly to qualify):
10,000 miles: +.01 All miles.
11,000 miles: +.02
12,000 miles: +.03
13,000 miles: +.04

Per Diem Pay:
.09 of your mileage pay is NOT TAXED.

Unloading Pay:
$10 per pump unload by driver.

Layover Pay (after 48 hours, then retroactive to first 24 hours):
$50.

Semi-annual Safety Bonus:
0-1 year: $2,000.
1+ years: $1,500.

Vacation Pay:
Paid average weekly taxable earnings.
1 week after 1 year.
2 weeks after 2 years.
3 weeks after 5 years.

Timeoff:
2-3 weeks out, 2-3 days in.

Rider Program (after 90 days):
Spouse only.

Insurance (after 90 days)
Health Insurance:
0-4 years: Single plan $17.50/week, Family plan $109.50/week.
4-6 years: $15.00, $107.00.
6+ years: $12.50, $104.50.

Dental and Life Insurance:
Single plan $4.88/week.
Family plan $13.98/week.

Vision insurance:
Not available.

401k plan (After 1 year):
Company match varies depending upon company productivity.

Operating Area:
Florida to California, Florida to the Midwest, Florida to the Northeast, Florida to the Northwest, Florida to Canada, Florida to TX, California to the Midwest, California to the Southeast, Northeast to the Southeast, Northeast to Canada, TX to the Southeast, Northeast to the Midwest.



OPIES TRANSPORT (2 Years O.T.R. required)
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Starting Mileage Pay (Short Miles):
.33

Loading/Unloading Pay:
$15 per pump unload by driver.
After 3 hours, $10/hour.

Layover Pay (after 24 hours):
$50

Quarterly mileage Bonus:
.02 all miles.

Time Off:
10-14 days out, 2-3 days in.

Rider Program (after 90 days):
Age 18+, not limited to family but preferred.

Vacation Pay:
Paid average weekly earnings.
1 week after 1 year.
2 weeks after years.

Holiday Pay (must be dispatched under a load):
Paid double miles on Memorial Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.

Insurance (after 90 days):
Health & life Insurance :
Single plan: Company paid.
Family plan: $42.07/week.

Dental Insurance:
Not available.

Vision Insurance:
Not available.

401k plan (After 1 year):
Company matches 100% on first 3% driver contributes.

Operating Area:
Midwest, Southeast, Northeast, some West Coast.



TRANSPORT SERVICE COMPANY (2 Years O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT)
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Starting Mileage Pay (Short Miles):
0-2 years: .35 Loaded/.27 Empty
2-5 years: .36/.27
5+ years: .37/.27

Loading/Unloading Pay, Tank Wash Pay:
$11 first 2 hours, then $11/hour.

Annual Mileage Bonus:
.01 for all miles.

Holiday Pay:
$100 each for New Year's, Memorial Day, July 4th, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.

Vacation Pay:
Paid average weekly earnings.
1 Week at 1 year.
2 weeks at 2 years.

Time Off:
7-10 days out, 1-2 days off.

Rider Program:
*Recruiting didn't answer about this.

Insurance (after 90 days):
Health, Dental, Vision, or Life Insurance:
*Recruiting didn't answer about this.

401k plan (After 1 year):
Company matches 100% on first 4% driver contributes.

Operating Area:
Midwest to Southeast, Midwest to Northeast, Southeast to Midwest, Southeast to Northeast, Northeast to Midwest, Midwest to California, California to Midwest, Midwest region.
AFLAC, Supplemental Life Insurance, Short Term Disability, and Long Term Disability also available.

401k (After 1 Year):
Retirement plan available with company Board resolution possible for matching funds.

Operating Area:
Midwest to California, Midwest to Northeast, Midwest to Southeast, California to Midwest, Northeast to Midwest, Northeast to Midwest, Southeast to Midwest, Southeast to Northeast, Midwest region.


Now is a recap of every load to date that I've done since being with my present employer, Jim Aartman Inc. of Ripon, CA. Even though I live in Florida, I operate under our California dispatch board. This is due to the fact that doing this allows me to reload from the Midwest back to California if I choose to stay out a little longer and, keeps me from dealing with our FL yard and their b.s. (there's an inside joke that the Mulberry terminal is the Indian RIver Division of Jim Aartman, and with good reason :roll: :roll: :roll:.....).

Week 1 (Starting from 06-25-2004):
-Fair Oaks, IN to Twelve Mile, IN to Winston Salem, NC (68 Empty-600 Loaded=668 Total.....Live load 06-25/0700-0740, Live unload and washout 06-26/0750-0940).
-Winston Salem to Valdosta, GA to Lakeland, FL (543 empty-230 loaded=773 total.....06-26/D&H, live unload and washout 06-28/0615-0740).
-Lakeland to Mulberry, FL (11 miles). From there I took a few days off in Jacksonville...
End of week total: 1,452 miles.

Week 2:
-Mulberry, FL to Lake Wales, FL (tankwash) to Indiantown, FL to Fresno, CA (143 empty-2,790 loaded=2,933 total.....live load 07-03/0250-0620, live unload 07-08/0815-1310).
End of week total: 2,933 miles.

Week 3:
-Fresno to Tulare, CA (tankwash) to Tipton, CA to Greenwood, WI (56 empty-2,229 loaded=2,285 total.....washout and live load 07-09/0700-0855, live unload and washout 07-13/0600-0655).
-Greenwood to Fair Oaks, IN (384 miles). Took a few days off there while my truck was getting serviced. Good workout time!!!
End of week total: 2,669 miles.

Week 4:
-Fair Oaks, IN to Lafayette, IN (tankwash) to Polo, IL to Logan, UT (286 empty-1,356 loaded=1,642 total.....live load, unload, and reload due to product not being loaded at the proper temperature 07-19/1250-2355, live unload 07-22/0700-0935).
-Logan to Beaver, UT (tankwash) to Cedar City, UT to Gustine, CA (335 empty-638 loaded=973 total.....live load 07-23/1120-1400, live unload and washout 07-24/0630-1120).
End of week total: 2,615 miles.

Week 5:
-Gustine to Ripon, CA (tankwash) to Fresno, CA to Neenah, WI (149 empty-2,326 loaded=2,475 total.....washout and live load 07-25/0600-0845, live unload and washout 07-29/1000-1210).
-Neenah to Twelve Mile, IN to Roanoke, VA (335 empty-562 loaded=897 total.....live load 07-30/0945-1045, live unload and washout 07-31/1100-1215).
End of week total: 3,372 miles.

Week 6:
-Roanoke to Montezuma, GA to Winter Haven, FL via Mulberry, FL (559 empty-395 loaded=954 total.....08-01/D&H, live unload and washout 08-02/1100-1235).
-Winter Haven to Mulberry, FL (19 miles). From there to here in Jacksonville for a few more days off.
End of week total: 973 miles.

Week 7:
-Mulberry, FL to Haines City, FL (tankwash) to Indiantown, FL to Fresno, CA (164 empty-2,790 loaded=2,954 total.....live load 08-06/2250-0125, live unload 08-12/0630-1050).
End of week total: 2,954 miles.

Week 8:
-Fresno to Tulare, CA (tankwash) to Tipton, CA to Waupun, WI (55 empty-2,228 loaded=2,283.....washout and live load 08-12/1835-2110, live unload and washout 08-16/2235-2350).
-Waupun to Neosho, MO to Vernon, CA (698 empty-1,548 loaded=2,246.....live load 08-18/0730-0930, live unload 08-20/0600-1030).
End of week total: 4,529 miles.

Week 9:
-Vernon to Corona, CA (day off), then to Tulare, CA (tankwash) to Lemoore, CA to Greenwood, WI (300 empty-2,216 loaded=2,516.....washout and live load 08-21/2100-0045, live unload and washout 08-25/1950-2130).
End of week total: 2,516 miles.

Week 10:
-Greenwood to Fair Oaks, IN (truck service and time off), then to Rembrandt, IA to Ripon, CA (918 empty-1,784 loaded=2,702.....live load 08-30/0800-1130, 09-01/D&H).
End of week total: 2,702 miles.

Week 11:
-Ripon to Newman, CA to Greenwood, WI (54 empty-2,166 loaded=2,220.....washout and live load 09-02/0700-1000, live unload and washout 09-06/0915-1100).
-Greenwood to Rockford, IL (235 loaded.....live load 09-07/0800-1000, live unload and washout 09-07/1900-2015).
-Rockford to Fair Oaks, IN to Lynchburg, VA (161 empty-645 loaded=806.....live load 09-09/1600-1630, live unld and washout 09-10/1345-1520). From there boogied on down to Jacksonville for time off.
End of week total: 3,261 miles.

Week 12:
Went from Jacksonville down to Mulberry, FL where I began by doing a local load.
-Mulberry, FL to Haines City, FL (tank wash) to Ft. Pierce, FL to Bradenton, FL (934 empty-175 loaded=1,109 total.....live load 09-16/2045-2345; live unload 09-17/0300-0615).
End of week total: 1,109 miles.

Week 13:
-Bradenton to Haines City, FL (tank wash) to Clewiston, FL to City of Industry, CA (208 empty-2,668 loaded=2,876 total.....live load 09-18/1300-1500, live unload 09-22/1420-1645).
End of week total: 2,876 miles.

Week 14:
-City of Industry to Tulare, CA (tank wash) to Lemoore, CA to Greenwood, WI (218 empty-2,216=2,434 total.....washout and live load 09-23/1500-1900; live unload and washout 09-27/0600-0715).
-Greenwood to Thompson, IA to Vernon, CA (235 empty-1,917 loaded=2,152 total.....washout and live load 09-28/0715-0930; live unload 09-30/1500-1730).
End of week total: 4,586 miles.

Week 15:
-Vernon, CA to Corona, CA (34 hour reset) to Tulare, CA (tank wash) to Tipton, CA to Waupun, WI (280 empty-2,228 loaded=2,508 total.....washout and live load 10-02/2000-2215; live unload and washout 10-06/1130-1330).
End of week total: 2,508 miles.

Week 16:
-Waupun to Fair Oaks, IN (3 days off) to Lafayette, IN (tank wash) to Millersburg, OH to Norco, CA (603 empty-2,304 loaded=2,907 total.....washout and live load 10-11/1430-1545; live unload 10-14/1230-1345). Mind you this load wasn't scheduled to unload until 10-15/1200. However, I called the receiver and asked if they'd take me early...when the answer was yes, I pushed and got on in there. Why you may ask??? Because for one I wanted to take another reset, and two, I wanted to get my truck looked at asap. I'd been having power losses that were getting worse that had started when I ran out to CA this last time, and running back towards WI. Got it into the shop where it was discovered that I had a bad turbo wastegate. Got it replaced while relaxing that day-and-a-half
and what do ya know, the truck pulls fine once again (not that it was pulling too terribly bad even "sick"). Had yet another adventure to come ....
End of week total: 2,907 miles.

Week 17:
-Norco to Chino, CA (tank wash) to Corona, CA (34 hour reset) to Lemoore, CA where during the initial washout it was discovered that my internal load valve was leaking, and we couldn't get it to stop (1605-1630)!!! Can't load with that being faulty so back to the Tipton, CA yard to swap tanks, then back to Lemoore, CA to get loaded to Greenwood, WI (336 empty-2,216 loaded=2,552 total.....washout and live load 10-16/2100-0045, live unload and washout 10-20/1345-1720). Time for some short runs.....damn the luck that I didn't have enough time to do another Midwest-CA-WI turn before coming home!
-Greenwood to Fair Oaks, IN to Braselton, GA (384 empty-685 loaded=1,069; live load 10-22/1215-1245, live unload and washout 10-23/1200-1345).
End of week total: 3,621 miles.

Week 18:
-Braselton back to Fair Oaks, IN to Lynchburg, VA (685 empty-645 loaded=1,330 total.....live load 10-25/0730-0800, live unload and washout 10-26/0815-1000).
-Lynchburg to Fair Oaks, IN to Lynchburg, VA (645 empty-645 loaded=1,290 total.....live load 10-28/0730-0800, live unload and washout 10-29/1045-1330). After this load I went home.
End of week total: 2,620 miles.

Week 19:
N/A due to time off.

Week 20:
-Lynchburg, VA to Clewiston, FL to City of Industry, CA (938 empty-2,638 loaded=3,576 total.....live load 11-05/0200-0540, live unload 11-10/1000-1225).
End of week total: 3,576 miles.

Week 21:
-City of Industry to Tulare, CA (34 hour reset and tank wash) to Visalia, CA to Prosser, WA (204 empty-989 loaded=1,193 total.....live load 11-12/1415-1700, 34 hour reset then live unload 11-15/0700-1030). Made out real good on this one, as I ran up I-5 to U.S. 97 through Northern
California, Oregon, and into Washington enroute to Prosser. I cut off over 100 miles doing this!
-Prosser to Sunnyside, WA (tank wash) to Wapato, WA to Bradenton, FL (40 empty-3,035 loaded=3,075 total.....live load 11-16/0745-1100, D&H 11-20). Scheduled appointment was 11-21/0700. Took time off after this load.
End of week total: 4,268 miles.

Week 22:
N/A due to time off.

Week 23:
-Bradenton, FL to Mulberry, FL to Clewiston, FL to City of Industry, CA (191 empty-2,638 loaded=2,829 total.....washout and live load 11-26/2115-0230, live unload 12-01/0700-0900).
End of week total: 2,829 miles.

Week 24:
-C.O.I. to Ripon, CA (truck service and 34 hour reset) to Hilmar, CA to Greenwood, WI (386 empty-2,155 loaded=2,541 total.....washout and live load 12-03/0600-0715, live unload and washout 12-06/0615-0730).
End of week total: 2,541 miles.

Week 25:
-Greenwood to Fair Oaks, IN to Neenah, WI to South Gate, CA (653 empty-2,206 loaded=2,859 total plus $50 detention pay.....washout and live load 12-11/0245-0510, live unload 12-15/0430-1230).
Went out with a couple of buddies of mine from TruckNet and had some BBQ at Joey's, a favorite eating establishment of mine when in the Chino/Pomona area...
End of week total: 2,859 miles

Week 26:
-South Gate to Chino, CA (tank wash) to Tipton, CA to Stockton, IL (251 empty-2,079 loaded=2,330 total.....washout and live load 12-16/1415-2255, live unload and washout 12-20/0500-0600).
-Stockton to Fair Oaks, IN to Braselton, GA (210 empty-685 loaded=

Uturn2001 03-01-2005 12:32 PM

Hey Cyanide. Good to see you. :) :)

Doctor Who 03-02-2005 12:09 AM

Ah yes, Tanker Yanking more fun than any driver should legally be allowed to have!!!

Whether it be chemical, food grade, petroleum, liquid ox, etc... A Tanker Yanker has to have steady nerves, patience of a saint and a willingness to adapt to any situation quickly...

As the other guy said good to see you here Cyanide

heavenbound 03-02-2005 01:00 AM

Cyanide, good to see ya. Post all you can. Seems you have very good info and welcome aboard.

JeffTheTerrible 03-02-2005 02:14 AM

Re: Tanker info for y'all...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyanide
:rock: <------------Is this a smiley version of Slayer or Malevolent Creation :lol: :lol: :lol:?

I would hope you'd the common decency to clear up that it's the pre-Divine Intervention Slayer, which is so very near and dear to my heart, and not Slayer in their present form, which, in my ever so humble opinion, really took a crap with that last album of theirs.

Cyanide 03-16-2005 03:07 AM

:roll:...since I couldn't get it on the original post!

Week 10:
-La Sueur, MN to Farina, IL to Las Vegas NV (659 empty-1,839 loaded=2,498 total.....washout and live load 03-07/0600-0800, live unload 03-09/1300-1600). Took rest of day and most of today off before driving over here for this update but, since I didn't get in a full twenty-four hours off it will obviously go against my days working...
End of week total: 2,498 miles.

Week 11:
-Las Vegas, NV to Tulare, CA (tank wash), then to Fresno, CA to Neenah, WI (393 empty-2,326 loaded=2,719 total.....washout and live load 03-11/0630-0850, live unload and washout 03-15/0400-0615). From there came down here to Fair Oaks for my truck service and to take a little more than a day off.
End of week total: 2,719 miles.

Week 12:
-Neenah, WI to Fair Oaks, IN, then to Neosho, MO to Norco, CA (798 empty-1,513 loaded=2,311 total.....washout and live load 03-18/0600-0830, live unload 03-21/1000-1120).
-Norco, CA to Chino, CA (tank wash), then back to Norco, CA to Gustine, CA (10 empty-331 loaded=341 total.....washout and live load 03-21/1330-1630, live unload 03-22/0500-0730).
End of week total: 2,652 miles.

Week 13:
-Gustine, CA to Ripon, CA (tank wash), then to Delano, CA to Bradenton, FL (225 empty-2,634 loaded=2,859 total.....washout and live load 03-24/0830-0940, Drop & Hook 03-27). From there came up here to Jacksonville for a few days off enroute to my next load...

2005 Totals (with leaving out 04-04)
Miles: 35,087
Loads: 18 (36)
Live Loads/Unloads: 30 (83%)
Drop and Hooks: 6 (17%)
Length of Haul: 1,949 miles
Days Out/Working: 69
Days Off: 25

Jim Aartman Totals
Miles: 107,512
Loads: 54 (108 )
Live Loads/Unloads: 97 (90%)
Drop and Hooks: 11 (10%)
Length Of Haul: 1,991 miles
Days Out/Working: 214
Days Off: 73

yoopr 03-16-2005 04:13 AM

you forgot KBR
715-753-xxxx :shock:
$7,000 a month-Benefit is living

Cyanide 03-30-2005 05:49 PM

Yoopr, good point :lol: :lol: :lol:!

Jeff, sorry, have to disagree with ya. I've been listening to Slayer since '83 when "Show No Mercy" was released, and to me Slayer is Slayer. I've never been disappointed by any of their albums. We can talk about that in another post or through p.m.'s though. I'd really like for this thread to stay on the subject of tankers and information pertinent to them. Thanks :wink:...

BTW, will be updating this shortly y'all. Thanks for the patience.

Cyanide 03-31-2005 12:49 AM

Whew...

Okay gang, the update on the original post is finally done :!:

Contractor 04-01-2005 03:15 PM

Cyanide,

Thanks for the very informative postings related to driving tankers. For many of the reasons you've outlined, I'd like to drive a tanker as well. What is your opinion of a persons first driving job hauling bulk? Do you know of other companies besides Schneider that will train an inexperienced driver in bulk? My plan is to get my CDL at Central Vo-Tech in Drumright, OK then hire on with Schneider's bulk division. They would require me to take their regular three week training but without the one year contract, then a week of bulk training, then out with a bulk trainer.

Cyanide 04-01-2005 06:04 PM

Contractor...

If you can get on with Schneider bulk right out of school I say by all means go for it. Many will make fun of the company but ya know what? Schneider's bulk training is probably the best you can get for learning about a tanker, especially with it being chemicals. And their pay package isn't too shabby either.

For all to remember, chemical tankers generally get paid for everything related to work (just like a union job), wheras food-grade has greater potential to be more laid back with more miles, yet no accessory pay (depending on the company).

If you discover that you like tank but not hauling hazmat then switch to food-grade after ya get your time in. Many of us food-grade drivers got our start doing just that...myself included :roll:!

If you discover that tank is not for you for whatever reason, IMHO, you can go to dry van or reefer with a greater sense of awareness and safety than many other drivers of equal experience because of your time pulling a tanker.

Good luck and keep us posted on how you do.

Doctor Who 04-02-2005 01:45 AM

Quote:

If you discover that tank is not for you for whatever reason, IMHO, you can go to dry van or reefer with a greater sense of awareness and safety than many other drivers of equal experience because of your time pulling a tanker.
These words should be etched in stone!!!!

Colin 04-02-2005 06:02 AM

I met a Canadian O/O tanker hauler from Mississuaga this week. He runs very hard (his words) and clears about $10,000 a month. A lot of empty miles (due in part to being from Canada, no doubt). He was under a load from ON, Longview, WA. Then he was headed to Central CA for orange juice back to ON. His current load from ON to Longview paid $3.00 per mile... I would look into food grade if I ever went back out long haul. I like no touch freight. But the little trucks is not cool. I'm 6'5" and it's bad times in a mid roof or smaller.

As long as we're posting pics of trucks:

http://www.millerphotos.net/truck.jpg

GMAN 04-02-2005 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin
I met a Canadian O/O tanker hauler from Mississuaga this week. He runs very hard (his words) and clears about $10,000 a month. A lot of empty miles (due in part to being from Canada, no doubt). He was under a load from ON, Longview, WA. Then he was headed to Central CA for orange juice back to ON. His current load from ON to Longview paid $3.00 per mile... I would look into food grade if I ever went back out long haul. I like no touch freight. But the little trucks is not cool. I'm 6'5" and it's bad times in a mid roof or smaller.

As long as we're posting pics of trucks:

http://www.millerphotos.net/truck.jpg


Is that Canadian or US dollars? There is quite a difference in pay if you compare Canadian dollars to US. I don't know what the exchange rate is at this point but last time I checked $1. Canadian was equal to $.64 US. 8)

Colin 04-02-2005 03:03 PM

He specifically said American dollars.

yoopr 04-02-2005 03:12 PM

$3 a mile sounds a bit curious

Cyanide 04-16-2005 02:12 AM

Hey y'all...:D!

Just dropping in to tell everyone hello and let ya know I'll be a little busy the next week or so. I'll update all my numbers after I get back to the house in another couple weeks or so. Here's a brief summary of what's happened, and what's scheduled to happen for now.

I did that Georgia-California load as scheduled, then reloaded back up to Wisconsin. From there came down here to Fair Oaks (Indiana) for a couple days off, and heading out tomorrow for Tennessee. Then going down to Georgia and get a reload back to Iowa. Finally, will reload in Iowa back out to California, and then will work my way to Florida for more time off :lol: :lol: :lol:.

Y'all be safe, more later :wink:...

LTC 04-19-2005 02:51 PM

$3.00 a loaded mile is not uncommon in the world of tankers.

My contractors do better than $10, 000 per month.

We pull Chemicals though. Most aren't all that funky, a lot of lube oils.

There are some very good tanker outfits out there.

If you are thinking about making the change.

PM me or call 800-972-8789
Joe
Liquid Transport Corp.

Cyanide 05-04-2005 06:44 PM

Hello again to all!

Hope this finds everyone doing great as always and staying out of trouble. Myself, doing the usual of shifting-and-sloshing, eating, sleeping, working out, but most important, HAVING FUN :D! Guess I should get this caught up...

Week 14:
-Bradenton, FL to Blackshear, GA (via Mulberry, FL), then to Ripon, CA (354 empty-2,652 loaded=3,006 total.....washout and live load 04-04/0840-1045, live unload and washout 04-07/2000-2230).
End of week total: 3,006 miles.

Week 15:
-Ripon to Hilmar, CA, then to Greenwood, WI (29 empty-2,155 loaded=2,184 total.....washout and live load 04-08/1200-1415, live unload and washout 04-12/0800-0900).
End of week total: 2,184 miles.

Week 16:
-Greenwood to Fair Oaks, IN (time off), then to Antioch, TN (384 empty-391 loaded=775 total.....live load 04-16/1115-1150, live unload and washout 04-17/1200-1320).
-Antioch to Blackshear, GA, then to Lenox, IA (470 empty-1,193 loaded=1,663 total.....washout and live load 1400-1530, Drop & Hook 04-21).
End of week total: 2,438 miles.

Week 17:
-Lenox to Rembrandt, IA, then to Ripon, CA (170 empty-1,784 loaded=1,954 total.....Drop & Hook 04-22, Drop & Hook 04-24).
-Ripon to Tipton, CA, then to Waupun, WI (159 empty-2,228 loaded=2,387 total.....washout and live load 04-25/0015-0200, live unload and washout 04-28/0730-0845).
End of week total: 4,341 miles.

Week 18:
-Waupun to Fair Oaks, IN (day off), to Millersburg, OH, then to Abbeville, AL (525 empty-833 loaded=1,358 total.....washout and live load 05-01/0715-0850, live unload and washout 05-02/1200-1520).
End of week total: 1,358 miles.

From there boogied on over here to the house, where I'll be 'til Saturday. From there reloading down south and heading back out to California for Thursday morning. Y'all be safe, more later ;-)...

2005 Totals (with leaving out 05-07)
Miles: 48,414
Loads: 25 (50)
Live Loads/Unloads: 41 (82%)
Drop and Hooks: 9 (18%)
Length of Haul: 1,937 miles
Days Out/Working: 94
Days Off: 33

Jim Aartman Totals
Miles: 120,839
Loads: 61 (122)
Live Loads/Unloads: 108 (89%)
Drop and Hooks: 14 (11%)
Length Of Haul: 1,981 miles
Days Out/Working: 239
Days Off: 78

Contractor 05-05-2005 02:16 PM

I see Jim Aartman trucks often on the 210 freeway. I keep looking for the Marines plate to see if it's you Cyanide. So if someday you see someone waving like crazy...it might be me! Glad to hear that somebody is having FUN out there. I'm sure that regular workouts help in that regard. I can tell the difference in my mood when I don't exercise. Congratulations on being so self disciplined.

Cyanide 05-05-2005 04:14 PM

Since I've been asked...

Some of you from this site or the other I post on have asked generally in one form or another about the miles I (we) run in food-grade. One,if that's the hardest part of the job? Two, how can we run those consistent high miles and be legal?.

To answer question one, honestly speaking I would have to say yes. With food-grade companies such as Jim Aartman, Indian River/Quality Express/North American Tank Lines, and Bynum, you're NOT going to be physically loading or unloading the product or anything associated with that procedure except for weighing in/out, and pulling/backing into a loading bay, and that's it! In order to simply pick-up and deliver on time safely, you must drive. That's your job and what you're being paid to for, which leads us to question two.

Remember that as an average each trip is going to be between 1,300-2,000 miles (from personal experience), our freight lanes take us across many 70-75 m.p.h. states, and that the trucks are capable of running those speed limits. What this means is that you should realistically expect to put in a minimum of 660 miles daily. Sometimes you can slack a little, and sometimes you'll push upwards of 700 to 750. A large factor contributing to all this is how you manage your time :?...

However, if you are coming from a carrier governed around 65 m.p.h. and are used to running only 550-600 miles daily, this will be quite an adjustment and may lead many to think we are dispatched and/or run illegal. NOT SO!!! Remember that you are hauling a time-sensitive product so YOU"RE NOT going to be given the same time to do trips as you may have been used to, and, that provided you average at least 60 m.p.h. for your DRIVING TIME every run can be done legally. This includes daily, the required 10-hour break plus a half hour for doing your pre-trip inspection and fueling. Just for S.&G., if you really do the numbers, almost every load I've personally ran can even be completed in the time frame given averaging 57 m.p.h. for DRIVING TIME!

One more item, the above mentioned companies don't expect every driver to push the miles like I do (and I'm not a hard runner by a long shot). They have freight for drivers who only want to run 10,000 miles a month, for those such as myself who like to get around 12,000, and for those who never go home and want 14,000. It's all in what you need, and what you want to do.

If you have any doubts about being able to do this consistently day in, day out then I suggest you seriously reconsider ever hauling food-grade tankers. Once again, it's not for everyone, but those of us who do it and stick with it are quite happy for many reasons...;-).

As always, y'all be safe and have fun :D!

floydiandays 05-05-2005 04:43 PM

Colin you work for may? How do you like them? They have a terminal like 2 miles from my house, Brooks exit I-5. I live in Keizer, OR.

Cyanide 05-05-2005 05:19 PM

Hey Contractor!

Be heading out that way this weekend. Love going to SoCal, as a very good friend of mine lives in Pomona and time permitting I take a day off visiting. Heck, one of our favorite hangouts is Joey's B.B.Q. I'm pretty sure ya know about it :roll:!!!

Also, tanks a lot :lol::lol::lol: for the compliment. Yeah, I keep working out quite often, and some don't understand how I do it and run like I do...TIME MANAGEMENT and PLANNING is the key! Guess ya can say I'm a bit anal about that, being a virgo and Marine N.C.O. :lol:!

Just keep your eyes peeled for my T-800, it hasn't changed any from the picture there in my signature.

Cyanide 05-06-2005 10:13 PM

To everyone, y'all be safe as always, have fun, and stay out of trouble. I'll be busy wrapping things up here later before heading out tomorrow, so not going to be online anymore. Until next time ;-)...

Doctor Who 05-07-2005 12:51 AM

I really miss Tanker Yanking... Hmm, I wonder if???????

Better not talk too loud someone may take me serious and offer me a tanker job... I can only HOPE

yoopr 05-07-2005 12:54 AM

I get the Itch too Doc but it goes away :P

countrygirl 05-07-2005 01:27 AM

Hmmmmm............
Me thinking.....Flatbed or Tanker????
Tough one here......

yoopr 05-07-2005 02:08 AM

you must be-You posted it twice :P

countrygirl 05-07-2005 02:44 AM

HAY!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:
How in the HELLo did that happen :?: :?: :?: :?: :shock: :shock:
I never posted twice.. :evil: :evil:

yoopr 05-07-2005 03:22 AM

Found out today that i'm still OFFICIALLY an employee of KBR-woohoo :roll:

countrygirl 05-07-2005 11:42 AM

CONGRADS!!!!!!!

now get back to work..... :twisted: :twisted:

nrvsreck 05-07-2005 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyanide
Legality:
Tanker drivers never worry about having an overweight load, much less trying to get axle weights proper. No more sliding tandems or worries about a bridge law!

Curious... when I hauled milk tanks company policy was to always bypass the scales. Most of my loads grossed well over 80,000#. This was a small company though, running mainly in TX, AR, and LA. That was a big reason why I quit. I don't like being forced to illegal every day. :evil:

Xelectro 05-07-2005 09:39 PM

I am going to start orientation at Bynum Transport on May, 25. I am very excited about the company and the type of runs they got. I still have couple of questions about the Food Grade hauling such as. What time are most pick-ups and Deliveries are done. Like VAN is mostly during normal hours and reefer is done at very early and sometimes crazy hours of the day. Can anyone tell me what about food grade tanker what time are most deliveries and pickups are done. And can anyone tell me what speed are their trucks governed at.

Thanks

Xelectro 05-16-2005 05:51 PM

Does anyone have any info about Bynum, I am really excited about my orientation next week and would like some input.

Thanks

Cyanide 05-18-2005 04:01 AM

Hey gang I'm back already...

Got in late this morning and enjoyed the rest of today off, and will be in until Monday, when I pick up another load destined for California. I then will most likely stay out until the end of June, when I hit my anniversary mark here with Aartman :D. Nothing has changed because as always, I'm loving MY JOB and MY LIFE!!! Anyway, here's the couple of trips I did since last time around...

Week 19:
-Abbeville, AL to Mulberry, FL (swap tanks), then to Haines City, FL (tank wash), then load at Arcadia, FL going to Anaheim, CA (524 empty-2,598 loaded=3,122 total.....live load 05-07/1500-1700, live unload 05-12/0700-0900, then tank wash there in Anaheim).
End of week total: 3,122 miles.

Week 20:
-Anaheim to Fresno, CA for reload going to Apopka, FL (246 empty-2,641 loaded=2,887 total.....washout and live load 05-13/0000-0300, Drop & Hook 05-17).
End of week total: 2,887 miles.

2005 Totals (with leaving out 05-23)
Miles: 54,423
Loads: 27 (54)
Live Loads/Unloads: 44 (81%)
Drop and Hooks: 10 (19%)
Length of Haul: 2,016 miles
Days Out/Working: 105
Days Off: 38

Jim Aartman Totals
Miles: 126,848
Loads: 63 (126)
Live Loads/Unloads: 111 (88%)
Drop and Hooks: 15 (12%)
Length Of Haul: 2,013 miles
Days Out/Working: 250
Days Off: 83


Xelectro, just in case ya didn't catch it before in the very first post of this thread is detailed info about Bynum...

Also, from talking with a driver this past week who's been there almost fifteen years, they're implementing a safety bonus program now. Think he'd said it was going to be $250 per quarter. You may want to go over to TruckNet and send a p.m. to Dak1 and Messyme. Dak still drives for Bynum and has been there a number of years, and Messyme seemed happy with them. Unfortunately she had to recently leave due to personal matters.

Also, check through all of my runs and you'll get a good idea of our load schedules. The nice thing with food-grade is that many of the customers will take you early. Also, we may not make the highest c.p.m. figure, but we have a very consistent freight base and can run as hard or soft as you want. You can see from my personal experiences that I turn almost 12,000 miles per month and still take off a week on average. To the dismay of others (the negative naysayers) I run legal. I do the speed limit, I log things as they happen, and I still make the time to work out constantly, eat properly, and get plenty of rest. Once you learn the freight lanes and customers you'll find a routine that works for you and honestly, be spoiled. There will be times you may have to push, and times when you'll have a funky pick-up/delivery time, but all in all, I think you'll enjoy it. Personally I WILL DO NOTHING ELSE!

Y'all be safe and have fun out there. More later :D :D :D...

Contractor 05-18-2005 02:04 PM

Cyanide,

I was passing a Jim Aartman day cab on the eastbound 210 past Huntington Drive yesterday in thick 15 - 20 mph traffic. I knew it wasn't you because it was a day cab. I happened to be looking in my rearview mirror as traffic was coming to a stop. Just then it look like the Aartman truck "bucked" as he rear ended a full size Ford van. He didn't hit the guy very hard at all and they both pulled of the freeway at the next exit. I wonder if it was surge that pushed him into the van? Too bad for the driver as I suspect it will be recorded as a preventable accident.

Doctor Who 05-19-2005 12:37 AM

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There will be times you may have to push, and times when you'll have a funky pick-up/delivery time, but all in all, I think you'll enjoy it. Personally I WILL DO NOTHING ELSE!
AMEN to the first part of the quote...

It's really tempting to get back on the "ROCK & ROLL" loads again!!!

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Just then it look like the Aartman truck "bucked" as he rear ended a full size Ford van. He didn't hit the guy very hard at all and they both pulled of the freeway at the next exit. I wonder if it was surge that pushed him into the van?
More than likely, the "SURGE" factor can cause an accident if the driver isn't 100% on top of his "game" so to speak!!!

Cyanide 05-19-2005 01:49 PM

Amen to that Doc! Yeah, I'd say that will be listed as a preventable, especially with how slow things were going.

As to surge factor what's really fun is when you have a thin product...like the 51,800 pounds of grape juice I just brought back home :shock: :roll:. I prefer running just about anything compared to that d*** grape juice (or apple juice). It doesn't matter how heavy you get loaded, it still slams the hell outta the tank!!! Give me upwards of 52,700 pounds of eggs, milk, cream, or deep-frozen o.j...now there's a smooth ride :lol: :lol: :lol:. That may sound odd, but the more product you have, the less slosh room in the tank, equaling a smoother ride. Just remember the old comparison with a partially filled water/juice/soda bottle versus almost full.

Hey Nrvsreck, as to what ya had mentioned, I'd say that definitely was an issue with that company. The big-name food-grade companies have way too much $$$$$ to lose by playing stupid games like dodging scales, and I don't know of any chemical outfits that would try it. That'd be real interesting to try and expain why you're overloaded with HAZMAT!!! But, we know there are some out there that will do it...amongst other things :roll:!

yoopr 05-19-2005 04:18 PM

With the Tankers in Iraq we loaded the JP8 right to the top-NO surge which was nice because sometimes we had to make some pretty drastic Maneuvers :shock:

Cyanide 07-03-2005 11:07 AM

Hello to everybody again!!!

Hope this finds y'all getting ready for a safe and great 4th of July celebration tomorrow. It's been awhile since I've been online...I pretty much decided to stay out until my year anniversery with Aartman and then go ahead and take my vacation. I can say that the past year has been greatly enjoyed, not to mention much more productive than my fifty-four weeks spent at Indian River...a lot more miles and, a lot more time off. This last several weeks have been particularly good for me, as I turned good miles (same old consistent loads), and also took time off when I needed it (allowing for quite a bit of damn good intense workouts and being able to see a couple of new movies around their release date, amongst other things). I can't really ask for anything more :roll:...

Before I get sidetracked rambling on and on, I'll go ahead and catch up how my runs have been going, picking up from the last week I reported on.

Week 20:
-Anaheim to Fresno, CA for reload going to Apopka, FL (246 empty-2,641 loaded=2,887 total.....washout and live load 05-13/0000-0300, Drop & Hook 05-17).
End of week total: 2,887 miles.

Week 21:
-Apopka, FL to Jacksonville, FL (tank wash and time off), then to Blackshear, GA for load going to Ripon, CA (221 empty-2,652 loaded=2,873 total.....washout and live load 05-23/0600-0900, Drop and Hook 05-26).
End of week total: 2,873 miles.

Week 22:
-Ripon, CA to Lemoore, CA for load going to Greenwood, WI (136 empty-2,216 loaded=2,352 total.....washout and live load 05-28/0700-1100, live unload and washout 05-31/1600-1900).
End of week total: 2,352 miles.

Week 23:
-Greenwood, WI to Fair Oaks, IN (swap tanks and time off), then to Chaseburg, WI for load going to Fortuna, CA (746 empty-2,282 loaded=3,026 total.....washout and live load 06-05/2130-2230, live unload and washout 06-08/2145-2305).
Was originally scheduled to reload in Tracy, CA going to Greenwood, WI but that cancelled, so I did a couple of West Coast regional runs during the weekend to keep busy...
-Fortuna, CA to Ripon, CA for reload going to Medford, OR (330 empty-373 loaded=703 total.....Drop and Hook 06-10, live unload 06-11/1645-1730).
End of week total: 3,729 miles.

Week 24:
-Medford, OR back to Ripon, CA (to swap tanks), then to Pixley, CA for load going to Fortuna, CA (538 empty-495 loaded=1,033 total.....washout and live load 06-12/1330-1445, live unload and washout 06-13/0830-0950).
-Fortuna, CA reload going to Milbank, SD (2,105 loaded and total miles.....live load 06-13/0950-1200, live unload and washout 06-16/1830-1945).
End of week total: 3,138 miles.

Week 25:
-Milbank, SD to Fair Oaks, IN for load going to Spartanburg, SC (660 empty-643 loaded=1,303 total.....live load 06-18/1800-1830, live unload and washout 06-19/1400-1545).
-Spartanburg, SC to Blackshear, GA for load going to Ripon, CA (339 empty-2,652 loaded=2,991 total.....washout and live load 06-20/0730-1045, live unload and then across street to yard for tankwash 06-23/1730-1955).
This load completed my first year with Jim Aartman. I'll post these results after the next week's numbers.
End of week total: 4,294 miles.

Week 26:
-Ripon, CA to Hilmar, CA for load going to Greenwood, WI (29 empty-2,155 loaded=2,184 total.....washout and live load 06-25/0815-0930, live unload and washout 06-28/0620-0730).
-Greenwood, WI to Fair Oaks, IN for load going to Braselton, GA (384 empty-685 loaded=1,069 total.....live load 06-30/0130-0200, live unload and washout 07-01/0610-0730).
From there came on home and began my vacation :D!
End of week total: 3,253 miles.

Now to the numbers...
June 25, 2004 to June 24, 2005
Miles: 143,243
Loads: 71 (142)
Live Loads/Unloads: 124 (87%)
Drop and Hooks: 18 (13%)
Length of Haul: 2,018 miles
Days Working: 277
Days Off: 88
Workouts: 106 (Approximately one-third done at gyms across country, remaining workouts done in truck)
72,425 x .29=$21,003.25
54,432 x .30=$16,329.60
16,386 x .31=$5,079.66
143,243 x .02=$2,864.86
Holiday Pay x 4=$400.00
Layover Pay x 4=$200.00
Gross Pay =$45,877.37 (not including vacation pay, will add in for 2005 totals when that time comes.)
:P WORKS FOR ME! :P

2005 Totals (with leaving out scheduled 07-11, will adjust as necessary)
Miles: 74,071
Loads: 37 (74)
Live Loads/Unloads: 62 (84%)
Drop and Hooks: 12 (16%)
Length of Haul: 2,002 miles
Days Working: 138
Days Off: 53

Jim Aartman Totals
Miles: 146,496
Loads: 73 (146)
Live Loads/Unloads: 129 (88%)
Drop and Hooks: 17 (12%)
Length Of Haul: 2,007 miles
Days Working: 282
Days Off: 99

I'll get back with more later. Y'all be safe and have fun :wink:...

:)


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