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DaveP 12-22-2009 02:14 AM

Breaking News***
 
ARROW Trucking is closing the doors today. Just got the message over my Quaalcom with an offer for a "bird dog fee" for any Arrow drivers we recruit.

Employees: Tulsa's Arrow Trucking Is Suspending Operations - NewsOn6.com - Tulsa, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports - KOTV.com |

Jumbo 12-22-2009 04:27 AM

Wow!! That does not come as any surprise if you talk to any of their drivers as of late.

YerDaddy 12-22-2009 04:58 AM

More freight for us!

GMAN 12-22-2009 04:58 AM

I feel for their employees. I can't say that it a surprise. I am sure others will fall in the coming year as well. You cannot continue to run for cheap rates and survive.

Mackman 12-22-2009 05:00 AM

I love the pics of the tow trucks lined up ready to go. :lol2::thumbsup:

Good thing arrow is not Union. Cuz i can see all the union haters coming in blaming it all on the union. :smokin:

feederfred 12-22-2009 07:32 AM

That really sucks for those poor people....If you listen to the voice mail, it REALLY shows what the "bottom feeders" in management really think of their employees.."Hey we are firing you and haven't paid you in a month, but would you mind dropping our trucks off at the dealers "....Jesus, what nerve ! Then they try and get out of paying unemployment....What a bunch of sheer lowlifes...good riddance to another bottom feeder. Of course, we can expect the "New Arrow Tucking" to resurrect itself in 6 months, with more potential drivers on here defending them and labeling us as just "disgruntled"....And I wonder if whats left of Arrow management will try and burn drivers if they leave those pieces of junk by the side of the road and try and get home to salvage what is left....Probably...I feel like going to my nearest Arrow yard and buy some bus tickets for these poor guys..Some Christmas for them..

jonp 12-22-2009 10:22 AM

Tough for the drivers for sure. I'm kinda wondering however. What driver works for a company without being paid for a month? What driver travels without enough money to get home from anywhere in the US? When I was otr i never traveled with expensive stuff. I could always pack my clothes, throw out everything else if need be and use a credit card to fly anywhere in the world. Thats why companies could never threaten me while on the road.

freebirdrfd 12-22-2009 10:25 AM

I don't feel sorry for them. Everybody knew this was comming months and months ago. MOST of them could have had another job a long time ago and wouldn't have had to be worrying about it at christmas time. the writing was on the wall ( in huge letters ) for a long time now......

jonp 12-22-2009 10:29 AM

Ok, I can't help it: Hey Arrow Drivers Hows that Hope and Change working out for ya now?? No worries, Obamacare is on the way.

DaveP 12-22-2009 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by feederfred (Post 470735)
I feel like going to my nearest Arrow yard and buy some bus tickets for these poor guys..Some Christmas for them..

That's a great idea. I've heard that MANY drivers are stuck out on the road trying to get home....

I'll keep back a couple hundred...just in case... for a bus ticket and a couple meals for one of those drivers if I happen to see them...

Hope someone else does the same...it certainly COULD be one of us.

Mackman 12-22-2009 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by freebirdrfd (Post 470748)
I don't feel sorry for them. Everybody knew this was comming months and months ago. MOST of them could have had another job a long time ago and wouldn't have had to be worrying about it at christmas time. the writing was on the wall ( in huge letters ) for a long time now......

Can you please tell me how the drivers would have knowed?? Did arrow them selfs give them a date that they would stop?? Or was it all hear say??

I never listen to hear say. Truck Drivers are some of the biggest BSers i know. So i never listen to what they say about company's.

dewercs2 12-22-2009 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Mackman (Post 470763)
Can you please tell me how the drivers would have knowed?? Did arrow them selfs give them a date that they would stop?? Or was it all hear say??

I never listen to hear say. Truck Drivers are some of the biggest BSers i know. So i never listen to what they say about company's.

Hey Mackman, being a former driver of Arrow I knew just by the way stuff was being operated and the internal info I would hear. Yes rumours were frequent but then almost always correct. Glad a few of us that are on here did jump before this.
And yes.... It did take me a few months to see it coming but glad I reacted when I did.

jonp 12-22-2009 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by DaveP (Post 470760)
That's a great idea. I've heard that MANY drivers are stuck out on the road trying to get home....

I'll keep back a couple hundred...just in case... for a bus ticket and a couple meals for one of those drivers if I happen to see them...

Hope someone else does the same...it certainly COULD be one of us.

That is a great idea. Good for you for thinking of it and your right, it could be one of us.

jonp 12-22-2009 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Mackman (Post 470763)
Can you please tell me how the drivers would have knowed?? Did arrow them selfs give them a date that they would stop?? Or was it all hear say??

I never listen to hear say. Truck Drivers are some of the biggest BSers i know. So i never listen to what they say about company's.

Some of the guys said they hadn't been paid for a month and when they were paid the checks bounced. That should have been a gigantic "Leave this sinking ship" sign.

Mackman 12-22-2009 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by jonp (Post 470775)
Some of the guys said they hadn't been paid for a month and when they were paid the checks bounced. That should have been a gigantic "Leave this sinking ship" sign.


I guess your right. If i didnt get a check i guess thats enough to make you think.

jonp 12-22-2009 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by Mackman (Post 470790)
I guess your right. If i didnt get a check i guess thats enough to make you think.

All companies make a mistake on checks once in a while. I had one this week where the trip was not entered correctly in the computer and I was shorted 70 miles. Told my boss about it and he fixed it on the spot. This is far different from not getting a check altogether. If i did not get a check or the check bounced it would only happen once.

eplurubus 12-23-2009 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by DaveP (Post 470720)
ARROW Trucking is closing the doors today.

One cheap-rate hauler down, 999 more to go.

Daddy's Rig 12-23-2009 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by jonp (Post 470752)
Ok, I can't help it: Hey Arrow Drivers Hows that Hope and Change working out for ya now?? No worries, Obamacare is on the way.

Wow..There goes the Limbaugh licker..I meant lover..

Mr. Ford95 12-23-2009 04:55 AM

Few questions, if the fuel cards are cut off then how do they expect these guys to deliver the trucks? What about any load they currently have, what happens with it? Or they wake up on a toll road and their pre-pass is cutoff and they don't have enough pocket money to cover the toll? What a mess for the drivers, I will not be surprised to see a bunch of abandoned Arrow trucks left sitting either out of fuel and loaded with cargo or just left at a T/S or rest area

geeshock 12-23-2009 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by Mackman (Post 470726)
I love the pics of the tow trucks lined up ready to go. :lol2::thumbsup:

Good thing arrow is not Union. Cuz i can see all the union haters coming in blaming it all on the union. :smokin:

I'm not a union person, but nether do I blame the unions problems on unions themselves, I blame it on ppl that try and get a little TO greedy. Unions in and of themselves aren't a bad idea, it's when ppl that run or are part of them abuse thier power or try and take to much. OK, enough off topic.

That puts more truckers out of work, really sux and also give companies more leverage to keep payrates down.

ronjon619 12-23-2009 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by jonp (Post 470775)
Some of the guys said they hadn't been paid for a month and when they were paid the checks bounced. That should have been a gigantic "Leave this sinking ship" sign.

your right. After the BS reason they gave for the first one to bounce, the drivers should have hit the door after check number 2 does it make it.

jonp 12-23-2009 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Daddy's Rig (Post 470835)
Wow..There goes the Limbaugh licker..I meant lover..

Yeah? Tell me something the dumocrats and the messiah have done that has made life better for you? Anything? Bend over big guy, obamacare is coming and if you think this will do anything other than raise your taxes and make your healthcare worse your a fool.

Daddy's Rig 12-23-2009 01:27 PM

Blah blah..Always looking for someone to blame..I guess McCain would have been a better choice..No,wait a minute..U blue ball repubs didn't want him either..how about blaming them fat cats on wall street..If U can do a better job,start campaigning for 2012..I'd vote for a trucker..But you would probably tell lies and make false promises just like the rest..

Glad Hand 12-23-2009 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Daddy's Rig (Post 470880)
how about blaming them fat cats on wall street..

Yeah I like the way Democrats operate. The Democrats via absurd financial regulations made the financial institutions give low interest loans to minorities who had no hope of ever repaying the loans back, then when the inevitable eventually happens and the fed is forced to raise interest rates it set the stage for the domino effect that led to the financial collapse. Then as usual the Democrats got on their high horse and blamed the Wall Street fat cats for the financial collapse that they were actually responsible for creating to begin with. Talk about getting your cake and eating it too.

Meanwhile, the democrat constituency is too uneducated and thick skulled to figure it out, and the Democrats get away with another fast one. It works every time.


But you would probably tell lies and make false promises just like the rest..
You mean like B. Hussein Obama who ran as a moderate but morphed into an unhinged radical as soon as he was inaugurated? Nevertheless, because the Democrats are literally giving the bird to the American people by cramming that healthcare monstrosity down the American people’s throat, by this time next year there will be a ton of Democrats in Congress packing their bags to move back home after losing their reelections in November.

In any event, it’s couldn’t be more obvious that because B. Hussein Obama and other radicals consider themselves to be citizens of the world as opposed to the USA, they are trying to clandestinely bankrupt the federal government in order to make it fall, which inevitably would set off a chain reaction throughout the world. Then they are hoping they can pick up the pieces and create that one world government Socialist utopia that all you delusional leftist dream and fantasize about.

carterbeauford 12-23-2009 03:48 PM

lmao @ the politics.

sucks, I feel for the drivers, though I question why any rational person would still be working for them. maybe we'll get some of their odd freight.

dieselgrl 12-23-2009 04:07 PM

I can say that people stuck with Arrow as long as they did because we all hoped it would get better. That it was just a really rough patch we had to ride out. Something would go wrong, hiccup, and managment always had a feasable answer and an apparent fix to the problem. There were overhauls in upper level management that gave us hope of change. Most of us at Arrow were really like family, and this disaster has brought all of us back together - even folks like me who did leave a little earlier.

I just went through the hire process - I have experience, a clean record, and even time in the safety department. Finding work isn't as easy as it used to be. I know a lot of my friends who were still driving with Arrow figured the grass wasn't greener on the other side right now and were just trying to outlast the winter. Little did we know Doug would do us all in days before Christmas with only a few hours of notice. It wasn't that long ago that Arrow was a great company, one you could be proud to work for. Now I have countless friends both drivers and in house who are unemployed with very few options. Thankfully other companies are stepping up to help the drivers out - Crete has been using my contacts in the fleet to start the hiring process rolling for some, and I've seen other companies step up too.

GMAN 12-23-2009 04:35 PM

It is good that Crete and other carriers are attempting to help move these displaced drivers into another job. I am glad that you were able to help them with some of your contacts. I am sure the drivers really appreciate anything you can do for them.

Jay B 12-24-2009 02:00 AM


Originally Posted by Mackman (Post 470726)
I love the pics of the tow trucks lined up ready to go. :lol2::thumbsup:

Good thing arrow is not Union. Cuz i can see all the union haters coming in blaming it all on the union. :smokin:

OK, I'll jump on the union hater stage. Sure the union would have ensured the drivers had transportation home when the company shut the doors, but it would have been two years ago because they would have gone under that much sooner paying into the Jimmy Hoffa memorial Teamster executive vacation and hooker fund.

philrant 12-24-2009 03:10 AM


Originally Posted by Jay B (Post 470938)
OK, I'll jump on the union hater stage. Sure the union would have ensured the drivers had transportation home when the company shut the doors, but it would have been two years ago because they would have gone under that much sooner paying into the Jimmy Hoffa memorial Teamster executive vacation and hooker fund.


Its only the people who are non-union who complain, are you jealous teamsters get paid for their time? If Arrow was union sure they might have closed their doors 2 years ago,like they should have who knows. The drivers would still be able to draw a pension if they were vested and would have enough money to fly back home if they were stranded. The trucking industry is not going to get any better for truckers until everybody unites against low pay and long unpaid hours. Be honest you wish you were driving that brown truck pulling doubles that you just passed.

jonp 12-24-2009 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Daddy's Rig (Post 470880)
Blah blah..Always looking for someone to blame..I guess McCain would have been a better choice..No,wait a minute..U blue ball repubs didn't want him either..how about blaming them fat cats on wall street..If U can do a better job,start campaigning for 2012..I'd vote for a trucker..But you would probably tell lies and make false promises just like the rest..

I didnt vote for Mccain either. And I'm not a republican. Idiot, don't assume things.

jonp 12-24-2009 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by philrant (Post 470947)
Its only the people who are non-union who complain, are you jealous teamsters get paid for their time? If Arrow was union sure they might have closed their doors 2 years ago,like they should have who knows. The drivers would still be able to draw a pension if they were vested and would have enough money to fly back home if they were stranded. The trucking industry is not going to get any better for truckers until everybody unites against low pay and long unpaid hours. Be honest you wish you were driving that brown truck pulling doubles that you just passed.

I wish I was driving that brown truck. :)

Mackman 12-24-2009 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by jonp (Post 470973)
I wish I was driving that brown truck. :)

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x2 lol

DaveP 12-24-2009 10:01 AM

Me too...maybe. But I'll be damned if you'd ever catch me in those little brown shorts.

ronjon619 12-24-2009 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by dieselgrl (Post 470904)
I can say that people stuck with Arrow as long as they did because we all hoped it would get better.

I'm really curious about what they were telling you about not getting paid.

scythe08 12-25-2009 05:43 AM

I cannot fathom why people do this with their businesses and employee's. How hard would it have been to announce that Arrow was going to be closing and then bring everyone home and THEN close the business?
How does that POS sleep at night knowing there are still drivers out there trying to get home with no money and no fuel. I have heard drivers on the CB offering to help Arrow trucks with Fuel and food at the Lake point ,Utah Flying J and T/A! It really made me proud of them to be stepping up to help.

Mackman 12-25-2009 06:14 AM

I called this number. It is a message that was left for arrow drivers. Take a listen 1-800-759-2009. Arrow can go to hell.

Its says the dealers will help get you home?? How are they going to help?? Them dealers could careless about the driver.

Snowman7 12-25-2009 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by DaveP (Post 470982)
Me too...maybe. But I'll be damned if you'd ever catch me in those little brown shorts.

Chicks dig em!:thumbsup:

jonp 12-25-2009 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Mackman (Post 471040)
I called this number. It is a message that was left for arrow drivers. Take a listen 1-800-759-2009. Arrow can go to hell.

Its says the dealers will help get you home?? How are they going to help?? Them dealers could careless about the driver.

Why would the dealers help to get the drivers home? Arrow should have made sure to route all of the trucks into a terminal somewhere before going belly up. And bought the drivers a bus ticket home.

Fredog 12-25-2009 07:45 AM

the Freightliner dealers have said they will give Arrow drivers a bus ticket home or 200 cash, whichever they prefer.. all they have to do is come in and ask

Mackman 12-25-2009 08:07 AM

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