Can you honestly see drivers uniting/banding together to form some sort of coalition?
I mean really, people.
You stand a better chance of winning the lottery.

another bama voter. maybe he will let you drive a a smart car

I agree with you 100% there are alot of dumb drivers out there. Look at all the people leasing onto these companies for $0.90 a mile, I don't care who you are, your not making crap pulling a load for $0.90

Honestly speaking i would of drove the son of bitch home.. and told them they can come get the truck..i mean, what are they going to do leave a Truck Abandonment on my D.A.C. when they have over 1000 people Abanded!! F-Dat!!

Yeah, what they gonna do, fire ya? :p
I feel sorry for the drivers, but if it was me, I would have pulled my truck right in front of my drive-way.

But Hawk, what if you were say in Texas or Florida and only had enough fuel to go another 300 miles? You paying for the fuel out of your pocket?

To give a perspective on working and not getting paid - I had this happen to me, not in trucking

I was a programmer, systems analyst, technical sales consultant out of Houston. We knew for sometime that the company was in trouble. In fact more than half left the company before it finally died. We had lost benefits, only 3 people were bringing in consulting money (consistent billings), sales were extremely dismal.

The human nature is to try and do the best to save the company. We got some checks, but before we got to the bank, the CEO would call and say don't cash them. Many of the checks we got were for less than $1,000. Then after loosing the rose colored glasses, I and another consultant filed Texas PayDay law complaints. My complaint was scheduled to be executed on a Monday, his on Tuesday -- the Friday before the ceo filed bankruptcy.

Up to this point, I had sworn up and down I would never let this happen to me. Well it did, and I wasn't the only one. So before you slam people for letting this happen to them or that you will never let it happen to you - think again. Until it happens to you, you will never know what you will do.

That's easy, you drive it down a boat ramp and tell them to come get it.

I be in front of the local T/A, Petro, and The Great Pilot, panhandling Money Like Hell!!! And if someone called the Tow Truck on me, me and that S.O.B would be flying down Interstate like Smokey in the Bandit!! Cause hell with a Bus Ticket, I HATE GREYHOUND!!!

I wonder how many people showed up claiming to be Arrow drivers just to get freebies.

can you imagine all the other flatbed companies are rubbing there hands together thinking there's been a 1000 experinced flatbed drivers dumped on the job market and looking for a new job.:(

I drove that brown truck for 32 years...(and I wore the short's too....) It was a good gig. But, it wasn't perfect and I still don't miss the constant micromanagement...Now that the holiday "push" is over, I fully expect Brown to be in the news claiming that they didn't have a good year and some more feeder guys will be laid off...

and i was just thinking of switching from tank to flatbed (with 4 years exp.) but i think i better hold off, and watch from a distance.:eek2:

The owner of Arrow Trucking's Address and phone number Doug pielsticker 3032 Trenton ave so. Tulsa Oklahoma 918-712-1006

Right on brother! They should empty the truckstop there in Tulsa and have a convoy past Pielstickers house! That dog probably lives on a no commercial veihicles over 10,000 lbs. street though. Good to see there are drivers with balls still in this world! Amen!:thumbsup:

Great line. Very funny.

So drive all the Arrow trucks over there and park them in the street and let them be towed. :)

If you are like most drivers, especially flatbedders, you have some gear you don't want to lose. Unless I was 2,000 miles away I would figure out which was cheaper, buying enough fuel out of my own pocket to get home or buying a plane/bus ticket. In an empty flatbed you should be able to get 7-8 mpg easy I would think. At $2.50/gal $250 bucks buys 100gal which, with the fuel in the truck should get you 1,000 miles or so. I would also figure on driving to my house not the yard if it was more than 50 miles or so away and someone could come and get me.

Chicks dig the shorts. If you get them just right you can look like Lt. Jim Dangle on Reno 911. If UPS were in the same boat I'm not sure I would leave. A lot of these guys have union pensions. Pension plans vary, but you have to have 5 years in mine to get fully vested. Also, if I put 25 years in I can retire and start collecting day 1 I leave, but if I quit before that time I can't collect unitil I'm 65 and then its only a fraction of what I would get if I stay the full 25 years. Lose a lot if you quit, so ride it out and hope something good can happen.

At least they won't lose their pension. May not get a full pension if they don't have all the years in, but they'll get something. If they can get on at another union company then they can continue to add years for a full pension. Union plans aren't controlled by the company and they can't rob them.

Look out I think YRC (Yellow Freight) may be the next big company to go down. I've talked with a few of their drivers and it looks bad. Most are hanging out because of their pensions.

I'm with you on that one. Thats exactly what I would have done. I was listening to Sirius last night and a team from Arrow was on. They had a load and were in Dallas on the way to Laredo. Got a message on Qualcom to call the number and did to find out they were out a job. They called the company to ask what to do with the load and the Jacka**es had the nerve to tell them to deliver it. You have to be joking.

Yeah but those brown socks are hot. I've seen the women drool.

I agree. First one better have a damn good explanation. Number 2 would have their truck back. Period. Have to know when to cut your losses, write stuff off and move on.

If that is what it took to get me home, yes I would have.

Depending on the cost there jon, if I had that amount of money on me, I'd just get to the nearest airport and fly home, prolly be a tiny bit cheaper and a whole lot quicker. Agree on delivering the load though, I'm not getting paid whether I deliver it or not so eff it as long as it can't come back to bite me as being hijacked or stolen if I leave it with the truck somewhere.

Yeah, for sure. It is a cost/benefit thing. I'd see which is cheaper. However, if it was near the cost I would drive. A lot of drivers have too much gear or pets to allow another easier way home. Plus, the satisfaction of parking the truck at your house and making them pay to come and get it after screwing me would make up for any additional cost. :)

I wonder how much "missing" gear there was. If I had not been paid for a month and then was stranded like these guys I'm not sure I just wouldn't have sold chains, binders and stuff to put fuel in the truck and went home. When they repo the truck and drive it off how are they going to inventory the gear on the truck? You can claim it was all there when it was towed.

lol I wouldn't want an Arrow truck anywhere near my house. eyesore.

Nice to see that they're being taken to federal court over this, along with the class-action lawsuits of the drivers. But, they won't get anything...

Tulsa World: Sheriff's deputies attempt to serve warrants to Arrow Trucking officials

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........................... Wow....

Are you friggin kidding me? Arrow put the website back up trying to hire drivers?? Who in their right mind would get into a truck for that company after what they did a couple of weeks ago? And what shipper would put its freight on their trucks??

One that doesn't mind their freight being abandoned at the drop of a hat apparently.

I noticed an Arrow trailer in OH (I think) last week in the back of a little fuel stop. Had a kingpin lock on it.

It will be a major task to recover that many trucks, especially when they don't have any drivers.

I guess I might do it as a temp job providing the company and I agreed before I left to get a truck what I would be paid and paid it in cash. Say, 1/2 before I left and 1/2 when I got back and also gave me an expense fee to buy the fuel to get it back also in cash.

Among other things, I notice that what appears to be their company newsletter, En Route, seems to end in July of 2009. Nothing more after that.

But I'll tell you what would make some sense to me. More than one company has shut down, only to reopen back in business after "re-organization". A year ago, BEST BUY was closing their doors. Today, we can still do business with the NEW BEST BUY. Arrow stopped all operations, but did not bring all the equipment home. Why? Because they were not going out of business. They shut down in order to re-organize and start business back up again. And, they might have a silent partner now. Someone like Tom Growjean that was more than a silent partner with Burlington Motor Carriers. They still list the same owners, but may have a different manager and a couple of others on the staff.

Growjean has his fingers in a few other companies like Hirschbach, and it would not surprise me if he now has his fingers in Arrow. That would mean they will be up and running for a time, at least.

With Burlington,I was told that the manager they had was also being paid by Celedon to put Burlington out of business. I was also told that the manager was sent to prison for industrial espeonage, along with his private secretary.

Arrow may have had someone with money bail them out, and actually be going back into business. With drivers going to other companies, they now need drivers badly, so the new pay package will hopefully bring in new ones.

So, how well do you trust them? Depends on who gave them the money and what they do with it.

there's a coil sitting on an Arrow trailer at a truck dealer right off exit 226 I think on 80 in Ohio, if anyone wants some steel haha.

Sounds like it would be a steal. :p :hellno:

booooooo......