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J.B. Hunt
Right now I work for Werner, a company im mostly happy with, however my dispatcher is an idiot, and although im making 30 cpm, im only managing to get about 1500 miles a week. if I were to force a dispatcher change, I would need to leave this account, and my pay would go down to 24.5 cents a mile, with this in mind...
I was contacted by a nice gentleman at J.B. Hunt, and 37 cpm sounds better then 30 cpm for the same work. So the question I have is, what do I need to know about hunt? What should I expect? |
Im a recruiter over here at JB so I dont know if my opinion counts. However I dont think I was the recruiter you talked to, so I dont make any money for you coming over here. Id be happy to honestly answer any questions you have.
First of all out of southern ca you have two choices for OTR work. 48 states, or the SW6. Miles are real good for the 48 states out of california. However to get those miles maximized, you need to be a little flexible with your hometime. Meaning, I wouldnt take that job if you need to be home every 14 days. Drivers who demand to be home every two weeks miles will always suffer. The flexible drivers tend to be the favorite of dispatch with any OTR company. SW6 is another story....This is an OTR job basically just the western half of the US. Your shift would be 14 days but you would most likely get home to take your break sometime through the week because you are always closer to home. Downside: Shorter hauls mean less miles. However you would still be doing way better than you are now. Basically it comes down to this, If you want the bigger paycheck and you dont mind staying out on the road a little longer, I would run 48 states. If you want a little more hometime, I would run the SW6. Either way, I dont think you should continue working for 30cpm and 1500 miles per week. Also....The LA area is a great area for JB Hunt and local & dedicated runs..So once in a company like us, in the future if you wanted to run local or dedicated, you are going to be able to transfer pretty easiely. ALSO FYI: A lot of the dedicated and local runs in southern ca require HAZMAT.....Although you dont need it for OTR, If you dont have it now, you might want to think about getting it later. It would only make it easier to move around the company later. Hope this helps. One more thing....if you do end up coming over here, tell your recruiter that CRAIG helped you......Maybe I can get a free lunch out of your recruiter.....lol |
My preferred way to work, is 6 weeks out, 6 days home, without slipseating.
I also attend conventions several times a year. which means one to two times a year I need to be able to take a week off, sometimes at a place that is not my home terminal. |
Then I would run 48 states.
If you doing 6 weeks out at a time, you are going to be "gold" to dispatch and your fleet manager. As far as taking your time off in other places, I wouldnt think it would be a problem, drivers do it all the time. However thats something between you and your fleet manager. |
I too worked a year at Werner before moving on. I also was lucky to get 1500MPW. Since hiring on at CFI, I have been completely happy and I'm still surprised that this company manages things so well. I was busy getting 2,700 miles knocked out over the New Years when many drivers are left sitting. Good Luck on whatever you choose.
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Now.... Piece of Work.
Do you really think that a recruiter posing as a driver is going to work? What you are doing right now is an insult to the drivers intelligence. Dishonest tactics like this are exactly why recruiters are hated by many drivers and its a horrible way to recruit. This seems to be one of the only message boards where recruiters and drivers seem to have a pretty good civil relationship. Im sure you will be welcomed out here if you keep in honest. Now, as far has highjacking this thread with your CFI crap. I will overlook it this time, as you are still pretty new out here. Do it again, and you will start and LOSE a war like you wouldnt believe. |
Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
Now.... Piece of Work.
Do you really think that a recruiter posing as a driver is going to work? What you are doing right now is an insult to the drivers intelligence. Dishonest tactics like this are exactly why recruiters are hated by many drivers and its a horrible way to recruit. This seems to be one of the only message boards where recruiters and drivers seem to have a pretty good civil relationship. Im sure you will be welcomed out here if you keep in honest. Now, as far has highjacking this thread with your CFI crap. I will overlook it this time, as you are still pretty new out here. Do it again, and you will start and LOSE a war like you wouldnt believe. |
24.5 CPM!
That should be a crime! |
JB is a good company I worked for them as a company driver and O/O
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Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
Now.... Piece of Work.
Do you really think that a recruiter posing as a driver is going to work? What you are doing right now is an insult to the drivers intelligence. Dishonest tactics like this are exactly why recruiters are hated by many drivers and its a horrible way to recruit. This seems to be one of the only message boards where recruiters and drivers seem to have a pretty good civil relationship. Im sure you will be welcomed out here if you keep in honest. Now, as far has highjacking this thread with your CFI crap. I will overlook it this time, as you are still pretty new out here. Do it again, and you will start and LOSE a war like you wouldnt believe. Wow - threatening other users. To quote you, Sheepdancer,
Originally Posted by Dances with Sheep
Tactics like that are exactly why recruiters are hated by many drivers and its a horrible way to recruit.
Are you going to guarantee that this potential driver will get the fantastic amount of miles that you say he will in writing? I didn't think so. :roll: |
thats what iam talkin about Rev (preach)
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Are you going to guarantee that this potential driver will get the fantastic amount of miles that you say he will in writing? yeah, that'll happen...... :lol: :lol: |
Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
Now, as far has highjacking this thread with your CFI crap. I will overlook it this time, as you are still pretty new out here.
Uh, Sheepdancer?? I don't see you listed as a Moderator here!! Since WHEN did it become your place to "overlook" anything, or allow it, or disallow someone to post anything here?? :shock: :? Do it again, and you will start and LOSE a war like you wouldnt believe. :roll: :roll: :P Not to say that JB is necessarily a bad company, I don't think that it is!! (although I was unaware of the fact that your trucks have doors on the right side untill one day when I saw one parked!!) It's just that when one of their recruiters would come knocking on my door at a truck stop, I would have to explain that we had a number of ex-JB drivers leave JB Hunt to come to work for our company, but we did not have many drivers leave our company to go to work for JB Hunt!! Wonder why that was?? :wink: EDITED By Useless: Sheepdancer, you do bring some good things to the board, but seriously, you need to lighten up here!! |
Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
Now, as far has highjacking this thread with your CFI crap.
I will overlook it this time, as you are still pretty new out here. Do it again, and you will start and LOSE a war like you wouldn't believe. PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!! |
Oh hell, this thread's about to get good! :lol:
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I have no problem with CFI, Just like any company, I talk to drivers who hate working there and drivers who love working there. I was just pointing out that Piece of Work was a recruiter posing as a driver. I said that sort of tactic was an Insult to the drivers intelligence.
If you dont see that hes a recruiter posing as a driver, perhaps the term "insult to your intelligence" wouldnt quite fit with you. Man...what was I thinking? Taking up for drivers on a message board! I guess I should have remembered my "recruiters oath" which states when I see another recruiter lying to drivers, I should encourage him and even help him lie". My bad....it wont happen again. |
Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
I have no problem with CFI, ......I was just pointing out that Piece of Work was a recruiter posing as a driver. I said that sort of tactic was an Insult to the drivers intelligence.
If you dont see that hes a recruiter posing as a driver, perhaps the term "insult to your intelligence" wouldnt quite fit with you. So now, your implication is that if we don't believe that he is a recruiter, then we are somehow lacking in intelligence??? Just who in the Hell do you think you are?? You have not offered one single fact to support your claim. For someone who talks about someone else insulting a driver's intelligence, all you have offered are insults to the intelligence of anyone who happpens to disagree with you, meaningless threats, and empty accusations. Man...what was I thinking? Taking up for drivers on a message board! I guess I should have remembered my "recruiters oath" which states when I see another recruiter lying to drivers, I should encourage him and even help him lie". My bad....it wont happen again. Now, if he is in fact a recruiter posing as a driver, and you could have established some type of proof to that effect based upon some type of factual evidence to support your claim, then at that point, I would have agreed that his conduct was indeed unethical. Many companies offer drivers bonuses for bringing new drivers to their company. Now, given the number of posts that he made, and the number of times that he promoted CFI, I don't think that there is too much doubt that he was trying to drum up a few referrals. That may not rest well with you, but you use this board for the same purpose, so I think that it is rather disingenuous to take him to task for wanting to gain referrals here. You certainly had no right to issue threats by telling him that he risked "starting and LOSING a war". Your arrogant statement about how you would "let him slide" implied that you had some type of control over whether or not his postings would be tolerated. You are not a moderator; you have no such authority. |
To tell you the truth, I was starting to think the same thing as sheepdancer.
That's why I said thank you under his post. I'm new to all this and could be just as wrong as sheepdancer or anyone else that thinks otherwise ( ie. truck driver or recruiter ). That being said ... if he is not a recruiter ... I'm sorry ... if he is I hold my thank you. tho the wording was a bit strong by sheepdancer I understand where he was coming from. Yes ... he's not a Mod and should have let a mod take care of it, but we all make mistakes.... Can't we all just be friends :D |
On the index page i see a list of the moderator's names on it but i dont see sheepdancer and i don't see useless on there . So i think you all should leave it up to them. I feel like im in a truck stop with cb on with all the cb rambo's talking all their crap. I think all recruiter should identify their selfs as recruiters. just my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by mikey4069
On the index page i see a list of the moderator's names on it but i dont see sheepdancer and i don't see useless on there . So i think you all should leave it up to them. just my 2 cents.
If Sheepdancer has reason to suspect that "Piece Of Work" is a poser, then he certainly has the right to say so, but with the understanding that he is rendering a personal opinion. Making a threat of "starting a war" was, in my opinion, completely wrong. Now, I disagree with your assessment of equating this discussion with the trash talk on a CB; no vulgarity has been used, and no threats have been made by anyone, other than the threat that Sheepdancer made to P.O.W.. One purpose that this board does serve is the airing of civil discourse, and this is an example of people voicing disagreements. If you really equate this discourse with the kind of C.B. trash talk that goes on in truck stop parking lots, then you always have the option of reading other forums, or other threads, or, as in the analogy that you offered, turningb the C.B. off!!! Now, if I made a threat against you, or attempted to imply that I would let your "crap" slide, then I would be acting improperly. BTW, referencing your remarks as "crap" was to illustrate Sheepdancer's inappropriate conduct in labeling "P.O.W.'s posting as "CFI crap". I'm not saying that your post was crap, but if I did, I think that you would have every right to express your indignation. |
Originally Posted by glasman2
.... Can't we all just be friends :D
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Originally Posted by Useless
Originally Posted by mikey4069
On the index page i see a list of the moderator's names on it but i dont see sheepdancer and i don't see useless on there . So i think you all should leave it up to them. just my 2 cents.
If Sheepdancer has reason to suspect that "Piece Of Work" is a poser, then he certainly has the right to say so, but with the understanding that he is rendering a personal opinion. Making a threat of "starting a war" was, in my opinion, completely wrong. Now, I disagree with your assessment of equating this discussion with the trash talk on a CB; no vulgarity has been used, and no threats have been made by anyone, other than the threat that Sheepdancer made to P.O.W.. One purpose that this board does serve is the airing of civil discourse, and this is an example of people voicing disagreements. If you really equate this discourse with the kind of C.B. trash talk that goes on in truck stop parking lots, then you always have the option of reading other forums, or other threads, or, as in the analogy that you offered, turningb the C.B. off!!! Now, if I made a threat against you, or attempted to imply that I would let your "crap" slide, then I would be acting improperly. BTW, referencing your remarks as "crap" was to illustrate Sheepdancer's inappropriate conduct in labeling "P.O.W.'s posting as "CFI crap". I'm not saying that your post was crap, but if I did, I think that you would have every right to express your indignation. |
Originally Posted by mikey4069
I have never worked for jb or cfi so i dont know much about them . but i would work for cfi and not jb.
I'll admit, I get a more than a little bit touchy when someone tries to dis' CFI or their drivers. I never drove for them, but had an offer to drive for them right before I came off the road. I will admit that I would not have reacted so strongly if this had involved just about any other company out there. CFI is an exception, and as far as I'm concerned, for good reason!! Here are a few reasons why I say that: Like just about every other noobie out there, I was not born with a steering wheel in one hand and a gear shift in the other one, and there were times when I struggled. (The difference is that I'll admit to it!!) :D Not long after I began running solo, one night I was headed Eastbound on IH 10 in Southern La. I found myself driving in a blinding rain storm; needed to pull off and shut down, but driving over the swampland, there was nowhere to do it. As Blessings would have it, I had a CFI driver behind me. I told him that I was still pretty new, and he stayed behind me, and coached me through it the entire time, offering advice and encouragement. None of this "noobie put-down" crap. Being a relatively new driver, it brought me a great deal of comfort. On another occasion, I was headed down the "Chicken Hauler's Highway" (N.M Hwy. 54 from South of Lordsburg down to Las Cruces)) late one night, when the alternator in my truck decided to take early retirement. My cell phone was out of range, there was very little in the way of traffic; this is one of the few "quiet, lonesome backroads left!!) THankfully, I had a CFI truck was in front of me. I talked to the CFI driver on the CB, shut down everything that I could to preserve what power I had left, and he stayed with me the entire time. Well, I made it through the mountains, but not quite to the T/A truck stop in Las Cruses, N.M. He stayed with me, loaned me his cell phone, and didn't leave until the wrecker arrived. I offered to pay him something; he wouldn't take anything, except to ask that I be willing to help another driver who might need it some day. I'm not saying that there are not good drivers driving for other companies, but I will say that I never had anything but a good experience dealing with CFI or Melton drivers. They have always seemed a cut above their competition to me. So, when I hear a recruiter for another company make mention of "starting a war", with somebody from CFI, it hits a pretty strong chord with me. It's like,"If you dis' CFI or Melton, or one of their people, then you are dissin' one of my brothers (or, sisters, as the case may be!!)!!" BTW, the Red color here is in honor of those Fine CFI Guys!! :rock: |
Im looking for a new job and would like to drive for CFI but they dont hire out of northern california .
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Originally Posted by mikey4069
Im looking for a new job and would like to drive for CFI but they dont hire out of northern california .
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would love to move out of cali but nope not at this time.
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Been looking at may trucking. I was a trainer with usx and i hear may trucking needs some better trainers . :lol:
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Originally Posted by mikey4069
Been looking at may trucking. I was a trainer with usx and i hear may trucking needs some better trainers . :lol:
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Originally Posted by alohawolf
My preferred way to work, is 6 weeks out, 6 days home, without slipseating.
I also attend conventions several times a year. which means one to two times a year I need to be able to take a week off, sometimes at a place that is not my home terminal. |
Originally Posted by alohawolf
My preferred way to work, is 6 weeks out, 6 days home, without slipseating.
I also attend conventions several times a year. which means one to two times a year I need to be able to take a week off, sometimes at a place that is not my home terminal.
Originally Posted by Smooth
What the hell kind of company would make you slipseat if you were out 6 weeks at a time ?
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"recruiters oath" which states when I see another recruiter lying to drivers, I should encourage him and even help him lie".
Sheepdancer, Is this standard practice at JB Hunt? |
Sheepdancer,
Would you have any objections to the signature that I have created below? |
How about some context, eh?
Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
I have no problem with CFI, Just like any company, I talk to drivers who hate working there and drivers who love working there. I was just pointing out that Piece of Work was a recruiter posing as a driver. I said that sort of tactic was an Insult to the drivers intelligence.
If you dont see that hes a recruiter posing as a driver, perhaps the term "insult to your intelligence" wouldnt quite fit with you. Man...what was I thinking? Taking up for drivers on a message board! I guess I should have remembered my "recruiters oath" which states when I see another recruiter lying to drivers, I should encourage him and even help him lie". My bad....it wont happen again.
Originally Posted by belpre122
"recruiters oath" which states when I see another recruiter lying to drivers, I should encourage him and even help him lie".
Sheepdancer, Is this standard practice at JB Hunt? |
If you can see that the original post is a joke, you may have some serious issues.
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Originally Posted by belpre122
If you can see that the original post is a joke, you may have some serious issues.
:?: Let me edit my post so there is no further confusion... |
I understand perfectly well what you are attempting to get across to me. Aren't I allowed to have a little fun with the thread also? Do you have an issue that I am not aware of here?
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Originally Posted by belpre122
I understand perfectly well what you are attempting to get across to me. Aren't I allowed to have a little fun with the thread also? Do you have an issue that I am not aware of here?
Pot? Meet the kettle. :shock: |
Colin,
While on the subject of realizing what was happening on the thread, did you take note that "Sheepdancer" (jokingly) made reference to being mistaken for siding with drivers. I was simply playing on that. I have no axe to grind with JB Hunt, Craig aka Sheepdancer, or you for that matter. Looky, I spun the little joke and now the signature is off. OK? |
Originally Posted by belpre122
Colin,
While on the subject of realizing what was happening on the thread, did you take note that "Sheepdancer" (jokingly) made reference to being mistaken for siding with drivers. I was simply playing on that. I have no axe to grind with JB Hunt, Craig aka Sheepdancer, or you for that matter. Looky, I spun the little joke and now the signature is off. OK? |
Will do. Take care. :)
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