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question about j.b. hunt
was just wondering if anyone on here works for them in the johnstown ny area. they have a contract with wallmart. the recruter told me i'de be making 900 a week and stay local and plenty of home time. just really dont know what to do. right now im working for a small contractor that does the post office. would hate to quit that job and have j.b hunt be a joke.
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if you have a good job now and making good money with hometime why would you want to leave. I did talk to a driver that was running out of the Walmart DC there he said it was mostly night driving but was making the money and getting home on time like promised. I am sure sheepdancer can answer this question better
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Yep, Sheepdancer is a recruiter for J.B. Hunt. He should be able to give you the answers you want.
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Re: question about j.b. hunt
Originally Posted by slayer34
was just wondering if anyone on here works for them in the johnstown ny area. they have a contract with wallmart. the recruter told me i'de be making 900 a week and stay local and plenty of home time. just really dont know what to do. right now im working for a small contractor that does the post office. would hate to quit that job and have j.b hunt be a joke.
And If after all of that, you still go with JB Hunt, GOOD LUCK. You're going to need it. |
You might want to check out this posting, too......
http://www.classadrivers.com/phpBB2/...793&highlight= |
DIAL 1-800-J.B. HUNT ...THAT'S 1-800-J.B. HUNT ... when I went thorough training my trainer had XM radio ,And I every time I see a JB hunt truck I think of that guy with the annoying voice doing that radio commercial . Sorry to take the thread off topic ,But that cheesy commercial still echo's in my head when JB is mentioned . :wink:
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Wal-mart grocery is a great job. But its not local. More like a regional. You are delivering to Sams and Wal-marts all over the NE. 5 days on 2 days off (tues - Wed) Occasionally you might get to take your break at home during your shift....but I wouldnt think it would really happen that much.
If you want to PM, I will give you the name of a guy who used to run it. He doesnt work for JB anymore and is a Moderator of a board like this. He will shoot straight with you. |
That's 1-800-"2" J.B. Hunt...1-800-"2" J. B. Hunt
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Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
Wal-mart grocery is a great job. But its not local. More like a regional. You are delivering to Sams and Wal-marts all over the NE. 5 days on 2 days off (tues - Wed) Occasionally you might get to take your break at home during your shift....but I wouldnt think it would really happen that much.
If you want to PM, I will give you the name of a guy who used to run it. He doesnt work for JB anymore and is a Moderator of a board like this. He will shoot straight with you. I would suggest you talk with a few other drivers before making this decision. |
Exactly...You should talk to a few drivers who run or ran the wal-mart grocery account. When you want to know the truth about a job, ask the people who SUCCEED, not a person who FAILED at a job.
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Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
Exactly...You should talk to a few drivers who run or ran the wal-mart grocery account. When you want to know the truth about a job, ask the people who SUCCEED, not a person who FAILED at a job.
BURN...!!! :lol: |
Exactly...You should talk to a few drivers who run or ran the wal-mart grocery account. When you want to know the truth about a job, ask the people who SUCCEED, not a person who FAILED at a job. |
Originally Posted by Malaki86
Exactly...You should talk to a few drivers who run or ran the wal-mart grocery account. When you want to know the truth about a job, ask the people who SUCCEED, not a person who FAILED at a job. Oh ladies ,and gentlemen it's an instant BURN return for Cluggy19 with an un-expected assist from Malaki86 ..........BURN !!! |
What gets me is that the recruiters only want to talk about the ones that actually do good in a position. I don't care what trucking company or what account it is, some drivers will do great at it, while the majority don't.
Why not give numbers that truly show how the account works out for the drivers, like 95% retention for account a, 17% retention for account b, etc. Don't just say 'This driver has been on this account for x number of years and is making y amount of dollars.' |
Why would you want to know anything from someone who failed at a job?
This is the same with any job in any industry. Human nature is pretty easy to understand. You will never hear anyone in any industry say these words...."I failed because I suck at the job and I didnt do the right thing to succeed" Yet, in any job or industry that is almost always that the reason someone failed. Now, with that in mind, when talking to someone about a job that they failed, how are you truly going to know how good or bad the job is? Ive said this before, my job is no different. Ive been recruiting here a long time. I love my job. But it is a tough job with a lot of pressure. Since Ive been here, Ive seen hundreds and hundreds of recruiters start here and fail and who are now gone. If anyone would ask them, they would say "that job sucks and you cant make money" Good thing Im not the type of person who listens to failures. I didnt fail, because Im much better than those people. Hey....if you want to listen to people who have failed at a job for advice....thats your decision. Who knows, you might not be a better driver than those people. Therefore you would probably fail too. |
Originally Posted by Malaki86
What gets me is that the recruiters only want to talk about the ones that actually do good in a position. I don't care what trucking company or what account it is, some drivers will do great at it, while the majority don't.
Why not give numbers that truly show how the account works out for the drivers, like 95% retention for account a, 17% retention for account b, etc. Don't just say 'This driver has been on this account for x number of years and is making y amount of dollars.' No I agree ...for example I drove for Werner ,and as a 48/Canada driver I struggled to get 2000-2200 miles a week with the trips I got which were 150-300 mile short runs on the east coast ... Now I had met a few drivers that seemed to get nothing less than 500-700 mile runs on 48/Canada ,and were not spending 85 % of their time on the east coast ...Not too mention they were making like 34 CPM at 6 months and your not supposed to be above 26cpm at 6 months ...what they had done was got on a dedicated account and jumped off it But were allowed to keep the increased rate of pay...I guess my point is not everyone receives the exact same treatment at these large companies despite the claims of them being to large to give special treatment to specific drivers . |
I'm not trying to call you out or anything - this is a general posting in regards to almost every recruiter out there.
Why would a person fail at the job? How about dispatch not getting them anywhere near the miles they were told they'd average per week by a recruiter. How about not getting miles because their average length of haul is 400 miles, and they'll spend 4-6hrs per day sitting in docks. Sure, there are plenty of people that fail because of their own fault, ie wanting to sit around truck stops all day, spending all their money before they even get it, etc. By looking at the retention rate of different accounts, you'd quickly know if the account sucks or not. If 80% of the drivers on account A stay on that account and only 10% of the drivers on account B stay on that account, which would you rather do? The recruiters won't give out these numbers, especially for a crap account. They don't want the potential drivers to know how bad the account sucks. I went through the exact same thing when I first hired on at USXpress and got their Home Depot account. Only about 10% of my hauls was actually Home Depot. Probably 75% of the hauls was roll paper. I learned the hard way, and now know to do more research on my own, because the recruiters may not blatantly lie to you, they definitely won't give you all the info you need. When I came to Celedon, I had all my research done. When I called recruiting, I simply asked the same questions about them that I'd heard from other drivers. And to this day the info I was given is about 99.9% accurate. |
I would think some people get special treatment in all jobs in all industries.
If I were doing a job and someone else was getting special treatment and I wasnt. I would try to figure out what that other person was doing different from me. I usually tell the drivers this before they come to orientation. "when you communicate with your dispatcher and fleet manager the first time, say these words..Hello, im (insert name here), what can I do to make your job easier and make things run more smoothly?" Some people would call that kissing butt....some people are too cocky to ask that and think they know the best way to run things. Personally, I call it doing what it takes to succeed. I call it "getting on the right side of the people who control my paycheck" We have all met the "super truckers" who know everything and dispise the dispatchers and fleet managers. Ive actually hired drivers who within the first minute of talking to FMs and dispatchers and told them "THIS IS HOW I AM GOING TO RUN IT....Dont like it, find another driver" and then they wonder why their miles suffer. |
When I came to Celedon, I had all my research done. When I called recruiting, I simply asked the same questions about them that I'd heard from other drivers. And to this day the info I was given is about 99.9% accurate. _________________ Once again, let me point out something. As a recruiter I talk to more drivers about their jobs and employers on a daily, weekly and monthly basis than anyone in the industry. I can tell you that there isnt a company out there where the MAJORITY of drivers I talk to arent happy. On the other side of the coin there isnt a job out there where I couldnt catch a driver having a bad day and hire him away from that job. Now.... there are a lot of job hoppers in this industry. The driver shortage is its own worse enemy with no solution is sight. Those "job hoppers" for the most part are going to throw up their hands and quit the first time something goes wrong. They know virtually every company is hiring. They feel sometimes its easier to just switch jobs than possibly admit they might not be running smart. And they feel its easier to switch jobs than try to help fix something thats not working right in the company. Once again, Im not going two dwell on the negative people who fail at a job. Im just not a negative person and its non-productive. When recruiting, I deal in averages. I will tell you what the average driver makes. I will also tell you some of the drivers who succeed on a job. Thats the thing about averages. Not everyone is a average driver.....simple math will tell you that there are always below average. Whether you are a below average driver or not is up to you, not up to me. |
Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
I would think some people get special treatment in all jobs in all industries.
If I were doing a job and someone else was getting special treatment and I wasnt. I would try to figure out what that other person was doing different from me. I usually tell the drivers this before they come to orientation. "when you communicate with your dispatcher and fleet manager the first time, say these words..Hello, im (insert name here), what can I do to make your job easier and make things run more smoothly?" Some people would call that kissing butt....some people are too cocky to ask that and think they know the best way to run things. Personally, I call it doing what it takes to succeed. I call it "getting on the right side of the people who control my paycheck" We have all met the "super truckers" who know everything and dispise the dispatchers and fleet managers. Ive actually hired drivers who within the first minute of talking to FMs and dispatchers and told them "THIS IS HOW I AM GOING TO RUN IT....Dont like it, find another driver" and then they wonder why their miles suffer. In my case I was one of the drivers that had on time service for the entire 14 months I was there ...And it never failed the guys that seemed clueless that were quick to call dispatch and complain loudly were the ones getting the better end of the stick . I can't speak for J.B. But Werner had terrible miles for solo drivers no matter how hard you ran ... |
Big jeep....I hope it didnt come out wrong when I posted that. By all means, I wasnt implying that you did anything wrong to not get miles at Werner. I was just giving an example on how its hard to tell what negative things you hear about a job is true or not. And how there is favortism in all jobs. Sometimes there is a reason for favortism, sometimes we cant figure out the reason.
I will be the first to tell you that we arent a high mileage company. Our average length of haul just isnt that high. Our fleet average for our van division is right about 2500 per week. In fact the last report I had emailed to me was "2540". Also here is another thing while im on it. I dont know if this is the same with all companies but it matters over here. One of the keys to getting good miles over here is "FLEXIBILITY" We only "require" a OTR driver to be out 14 days at a time. But the drivers who are flexible with that are always going to get more miles. What happens is with one of those drivers who demands that he get home every 14 days, He will usually get good miles the first week.....crappy miles the second week because dispatch is more worried about getting him home than finding him a good run. I will also be the first to tell you that sometimes recruiters dont explain that very well....lol. |
Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
Big jeep....I hope it didnt come out wrong when I posted that. By all means, I wasnt implying that you did anything wrong to not get miles at Werner. I was just giving an example on how its hard to tell what negative things you hear about a job is true or not. And how there is favortism in all jobs. Sometimes there is a reason for favortism, sometimes we cant figure out the reason.
I will be the first to tell you that we arent a high mileage company. Our average length of haul just isnt that high. Our fleet average for our van division is right about 2500 per week. In fact the last report I had emailed to me was "2540". Also here is another thing while im on it. I dont know if this is the same with all companies but it matters over here. One of the keys to getting good miles over here is "FLEXIBILITY" We only "require" a OTR driver to be out 14 days at a time. But the drivers who are flexible with that are always going to get more miles. What happens is with one of those drivers who demands that he get home every 14 days, He will usually get good miles the first week.....crappy miles the second week because dispatch is more worried about getting him home than finding him a good run. I will also be the first to tell you that sometimes recruiters dont explain that very well....lol. No not offended just explaing my experience at the..W..As for home time I was usually out 4-6 weeks ,and never complained about being home on the exact date I requested . I have seen some drivers just shoot themselves in the foot ...For example I was given a load going to Blaine WA set to drop at our drop yard for later delivery into Canada ...now the directions call for dropping at the truckees # 7 truck stop ...but you don't drop it there you drop it across the street in a yard shared by atleast 5 other companies . When I got to truckee's there was another Werner that had the same directions as I ,But instead of going across the street and asking to verify if that was our yard ...He just sat there typing messages to weekend dispatch trying to get them to confirm if it was our yard over the qual -com like they can see what he's looking at ,and he had already been sitting there for 24 hrs arguing ,and even after I confirmed that it was our yard by asking other werner drivers he still sat there ,and he sat there for the the entire week end ,and was still there when I left monday with a load ...Now as early as he was there he should have already confirmed ...and dropped his load ,and been available for a new one ,and being that he was there before the weekend he most likely could have been running unlike me waiting until monday on available hoping for a load over the weekend . And get this he was going to be late for hometime ,because of this delay ...And in his mind it was dispatch's fault . :wink: :lol: ....Now for a driver like this it wouldn't matter what company he worked for ,as he is the majority of his problem . :wink: |
Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
Exactly...You should talk to a few drivers who run or ran the wal-mart grocery account. When you want to know the truth about a job, ask the people who SUCCEED, not a person who FAILED at a job.
Your right though. He should find those who has succeeded at that job. I'm sure they outnumber the ones who has failed....wait, not on this board, though. Seems like every time you come online, their are many who has attack you on every post. Hmmmmm, I guess we all failed, of course, if failure is NOT putting with lies, NOT putting up with low miles, NOT putting up with attitudes from dispatchers. My reasons for leaving were clearly posted on this board. Don't seem to be their now, like many of my post. But like I always said. The bottom line is the bottom line. And with JB Hunt, it wasn't there. Simple. Complete. I hope he will look for those who have succeeded and post the number he finds. Good to hear from you again, Dances with the Cows. I'm sorry, wrong animal. Wouldn't want to offend..............the cows. |
Oh, by the way.....nice hi-jacking.
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GEEEZE!
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well i am home every nite but only making 500 a week.i need to make more money to support this family being that i am the only one working. and 900 a week would pay all my bills. and with the post office i dont get any days off, with jb hunt i'de get 2 off and get home sometimes cause i live 45 mins from johnstown. this job sounds good in my book.
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run as fast as you can. my brother is an owner operator. he leased their truck to them out of johnstown hauling all dedicate to conn, ri, me ma. started off great but something happened there. he lives right otside of fonda.
needless to say he left and is now leasing his truck to quality carriers. so just what i have heard and seen. good luck. btw ur from NY. I live in Albany. what part you from? |
I talked to one of the drivers that did the dedicated for JB out of the walmart dc in NY he was very happy. You have to check it yourself because what makes one driver happy does not work for another
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Classic is right what makes one driver happy may not make another happy. Obviously my brother was not happy. I should of ended with that. Thanks Classic.
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im in guilderland, grew up in albany work for john r mott inc.
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well i have to go to orientation on 11/4 got till then to decide.kinda still up in the air.
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Originally Posted by slayer34
well i am home every nite but only making 500 a week.i need to make more money to support this family being that i am the only one working. and 900 a week would pay all my bills. and with the post office i dont get any days off, with jb hunt i'de get 2 off and get home sometimes cause i live 45 mins from johnstown. this job sounds good in my book.
Now, I was OTR. You are looking at a walmart account. It may work out for you. You may even get that pay you need. I can't read the future, only tell you about my past with them. However, do you have a saving account to help you out while you "earn" your miles? If you are like most people, you don't have a savings that you can deplete while waiting for you dispatcher to decide you deserve a decent paycheck. Now, their are other companies who are decent about putting their drivers on the road. This is why I always say "Ask a Driver, NOT a recruiter". I made a mistake not listening to them in the past, I won't make that mistake again. One more thing. A successful driver is one who is happy with where they are at, not weather or not they still work for JB Hunt. You will find drivers on both sides, more on the side of dislike for good ole JB. But if a recruiter promises you something, tell him/her to put it in writing. You will find that almost all will refuse, or what they write is not worth the paper they wrote it on. Good luck. |
thanks for the info cluggy and i will think about this really hard. it seems like the whole trucking industry is a bunch of lies, promise you this and that. i read about local guys making 1000 a week, with 2 days off and home every nite, and here i sit making only 500 and working every nite, by the way i forgot to mention i do work nites.
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Originally Posted by slayer34
thanks for the info cluggy and i will think about this really hard. it seems like the whole trucking industry is a bunch of lies, promise you this and that. i read about local guys making 1000 a week, with 2 days off and home every nite, and here i sit making only 500 and working every nite, by the way i forgot to mention i do work nites.
Now, I did have to have some experience with being a "tanker yanker", but I know jobs are out their. Now, I'm not sure how it is up there, so you might want to check around. You might get lucky.:) |
i work on the walmart account there for jb i make a good living on that account u can bring home about 650 to 1300 aweek but u need to run and not be lazy you run maine new hampshire mass ct ny nj parts of pa and all of ny miles range depending on what u want if u want to ask me more pm me ill tell u anything u want to know im also a trainer on the account and believe half what u hear about jb tell u talk to guys who really run for them and not the ones who just like bashing jb
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thank you popop02 for replying. i sent you a pm about the job
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Slayer,
I live in Colonie. I have seen John Mott trucks before. How are they to work for. A friend of mine keeps telling me to go talk to Fane trucking. My understanding is he has some state contracts and pretty solid to work for. I see them hauling stone, salt and some flatbeds. I saw one the other day hauling a big Bulldozer oversize down 155 towards Guilderland. Don't know where he was going. Cool, glad to see someone else on here from same area. Good luck on your orientation. Maybe I will run into you some time. Cya. |
mott is a good company 18 hour for tractor trailer and 17.60 for straight truck but the hours are messed up. get all benifits, and yeah cool to talk to someone from the capital district on here. where did you go to school, i went to albany high.
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I have not talked to very many J.B. drivers ,but out of the ones I did talk to only one was disgruntled ... I met this driver at the minnoka IL pilot back about 8 weeks ago , But I don't think any company would work out super well for him ,as this was his reason for getting ready to quit....he got into the drop yard ,and dropped his load ,and needed to get an empty trailer ...He was pissed ,because dispatch couldn't give hime the exact number and location of an empty in the yard ,so he had to get out of the tractor and spot an empty himsef....he will find this common with all carriers !....He was talking about going to werner I asked him what his miles were he said about 2500 I said then with what J.B. pays you will be giving up pay to work at werner ...this person was going to quit over having to take the time to spot an empty ,and was going jump to Werner without even knowing the damn pay-scale . this person went on and on about how bad J.B. was ,but his only complaint was having to spot his empty at their yard ...which is not a valid complaint .
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damn this guy sounds like a lazy piece of crap. i'de like to see him do my job for one day, unload every trailer and find emptys myself.
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