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Originally Posted by Uturn2001
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Ok, we are once again trying to figure out what actually counts as legal and what is "creative".
Logging what was done, when it was done, for exactly the amount of time it was done is legal. Everything else is "creative".
Anyway the "anything less than 20 mile and it doesn't have to be logged" bit is wrong.
What a driver can do is when making multiple pickup and deliveries in the same town they can log all the dock time spent together in a single entry and all the driving time spent making those stops together in a single entry.
Anyway time spent doing an activity of less than 15 minutes may be flagged in the remarks section of the log book as already mentioned. The time spent on those activities in the flags must be added into the correct time frame at the end of the day however.
Correct me if I am wrong, but is this what you are trying to state here? This is the regulation regarding logging multiple stops in the same city etc. Same thing I believe you are trying to say here, but you made it sound like at the end of the day they account for the time: The best way to put it is. You can combine all time spent on line 4 and all time spent on line 3 together. The on-duty must be logged at the beginning of the time you was in the same city and the line 3 time must be logged at the end of the period you was running in the same city. Then you would carry on as normal logging or take your 10! I hope this also clears up Rev's request for you to show it from the book.
Question 6: How should multiple short stops in a town or city be recorded on a record of duty status?
Guidance: All stops made in any one city, town, village or municipality may be computed as one. In such cases the sum of all stops should be shown on a continuous line as on-duty (not driving). The aggregate driving time between such stops should be entered on the record of duty status immediately following the on-duty (not driving) entry. The name of the city, town, village, or municipality, followed by the State abbreviation where all the stops took place, must appear in the "remarks" section of the record of duty status.
Sorry if this is not what you was referring to :lol: