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Yes, under the "14 hour rule" you do have 11 hours to drive, minus that from 14 and you get 3 hours under the 14 for fueling, pre and post trips and loading and unloading.
The "14 Hour Rule" applies ONLY to a window within which you can only drive 11 hours. Driving beyond that point, regardless of whether you have exceeded your 11 hours or not, will get you a violation. It says NOTHING about getting your fueling, breaks or loading done within that time. Yes, under the "14 hour rule" you do have 11 hours to drive, minus that from 14 and you get 3 hours under the 14 for fueling, pre and post trips and loading and unloading.
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I have logged all the above in 14 hours while running "regional".
Which only proves you have NEVER done a long haul load where you have to manage your driving time under the 14 hour rule.I have logged all the above in 14 hours while running "regional".
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BTW, you never specified "OTR, Regional, or Dedicated".
That is because the 14/11 hour rules apply to ALL such categories equally. The ONLY variant rule is the short haul rule (100 mile radius/15 hours) But, we weren't talking about that.BTW, you never specified "OTR, Regional, or Dedicated".
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That is where you, Golfhobo, made the mistake.
Sorry, but YOU are wrong. "I" don't MAKE mistakes when it comes to these rules. I understood them while still in CDL school. I'M not the one asking questions about them! Now.... you can argue with me, and split hairs with me.... or you can LEARN from me. I really no longer CARE.That is where you, Golfhobo, made the mistake.
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"OTR", you are darn tooting i won't make it (not as a solo driver), Regional and Dedicated i will.
NOT if you don't learn and understand the rules. The fines start at $400+."OTR", you are darn tooting i won't make it (not as a solo driver), Regional and Dedicated i will.
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OTR means all 48 states, not the states east of the mississippi river, Regional and Dedicated are within a few state area.
OTR means anything NOT covered under the "Short haul/local driver rules." The number of states is immaterial. OTR means all 48 states, not the states east of the mississippi river, Regional and Dedicated are within a few state area.
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I'm STILL waiting for an answer to this.
Let me try again. You have a 14 hour window, within which you can drive only 11 hours. Then you MAY stay on duty on line 4 for as long as you wish. However, before returning to DRIVING, you must take 10 hours off.
Let's say within your 14 hour window you drive 11, take a 2 hour nap, fuel for 30 mins, and log 15 mins each for pre and post trips. You just used all 14 of your hours. When do you plan on unloading your truck? AFTER a 10 hour break? You won't be in trucking long. :lol:
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What part of "A driver may remain on duty after the 14-hour window closes" dont you understand?I'm STILL waiting for an answer to this.
Let me try again. You have a 14 hour window, within which you can drive only 11 hours. Then you MAY stay on duty on line 4 for as long as you wish. However, before returning to DRIVING, you must take 10 hours off.
Let's say within your 14 hour window you drive 11, take a 2 hour nap, fuel for 30 mins, and log 15 mins each for pre and post trips. You just used all 14 of your hours. When do you plan on unloading your truck? AFTER a 10 hour break? You won't be in trucking long. :lol: