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Using the adverse conditons provision is a crap shoot in this day and age. With all the different forms of mass media, from radio to the internet, it really is difficult to run into conditons that there was no way of knowing about in advance if one simply takes the time to look.

If a driver feels they have a legit reason to use it, then go for it, myself I never used it, nor would I if I was still on the road for anything other than a road shut down due a traffic accident.

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Originally Posted by golfhobo

I didn't read anything in the original post saying that the construction "shutdown" was advertised in advance. IF and ONLY IF the dispatcher and/or the driver is aware of the planned shutdown would it NOT be allowed.

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I don't know what world you live or drive in, Rev. But I drive east coast to west coast. There is little chance that my dispatcher CAN know about every construction "shutdown" over a 3500 mile stretch of interstate.

Just because they fail to get the information, doesn't mean the information was not available to them. If they have a phone, then they COULD have gotten the information.

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The FACT is, that if I come across a "shutdown" road.... for ANY reason.... and I was not aware of it when I planned my trip, the FMCSA will allow me the exemption.

Good luck with that. I'm sure that DOT is gonna love that "ignorance" excuse. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

3500 miles coast to coast? Call me, I know a shortcut through the forest. :wink:

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Originally Posted by continental

3500 miles coast to coast? Call me, I know a shortcut through the forest. :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He takes the scenic route.

Seattle to Key West is about 3500 miles.

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Originally Posted by Uturn2001

Seattle to Key West is about 3500 miles.

But it isn't 3500.

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago

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Originally Posted by Uturn2001

Seattle to Key West is about 3500 miles.

But it isn't 3500.

Seattle, WA to Key West, Fl air miles = 2725

Seattle, WA to Key West, FL Road miles
= 3629 per Yahoo maps
= 3519 miles per Mapquest
= 3,481 miles per Google
= 3818 miles per Mappoint by Msn

Take your pick

kc0iv

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago

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Originally Posted by continental

3500 miles coast to coast? Call me, I know a shortcut through the forest. :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He takes the scenic route.

Well.... THAT I do, when I can.....

But, they're called "stop offs" usually slightly out of direct route. You DO know what they are, don't you? :roll: :lol:

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Originally Posted by golfhobo

But, they're called "stop offs" usually slightly out of direct route. You DO know what they are, don't you? :roll: :lol:

Nope. No idea at all. I don't get paid to "stop off".

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago

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Originally Posted by golfhobo

Every state in the union has a number that you can call to get information on road construction. Every state in the union has a website that you can get information on road construction. Every dispatcher has a phone, and I'm willing to bet 99% of them have a computer with internet access.

All valid, interesting, and accurate points. However.... totally immaterial to the discussion, and NOT REQUIRED of a dispatcher.

Just because they [dispatcher] fail to get the information, doesn't mean the information was not available to them. If they have a phone, then they COULD have gotten the information.

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Part 395.2 Definitions

Adverse driving conditions means (snow etc., paraphrased) or UNUSUAL road and traffic conditions, none of which were apparent on the basis of information KNOWN to the person dispatching the run at the time it was begun.

This says absolutely NOTHING about a requirement for a dispatcher to check every weather forecast or state construction report (using phones, computers or anything else,) before dispatching a run, and certainly wouldn't apply to a temporary shutdown in a construction zone that could not POSSIBLY have been known about hours if not DAYS before I even got there.

The fact that there were 4wheelers caught in this shutdown, indicates it was not advertised even locally before it happened. Regardless, as long as my dispatcher didn't KNOW about it BEFORE he dispatched me, it DOES IN FACT qualify for the exemption, and I WILL be allowed to use said exemption.

Sorry, Rev. But once again, your desire to correct everyone on everything has led you into an indefensible position. Sometimes, it is best just to agree with people who are giving accurate and useful information, or say nothing at all.