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mike3fan 02-05-2007 11:18 AM

O/O pulling chemical tanker,with pay
 
As I have posted before I signed my truck on with Dana/Suttles pulling chemical tanker,I started in mid December and have been working steady since the first of the year.

I am gonna post my gross pay along with miles traveled,this is not done to be harassed or dragged thru the mud,it is only done as information so that someone out there may make a more informed decision as if this life is something that they might want to consider.I read on this forum all the time about people complaining about others not posting numbers,well these are mine.

When I list total miles it is just that any mile my truck rolls,loaded,empty or personal. As such gross pay reflects all accesorials including fsc and detention.

I am gonna "borrow" Cyanide's way of posting load and mileage info as it is easiest to put together.


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Week 1-2
Owosso,MI---->Midland,MI(pickup clean tank,live load)
....Midland,MI---->Reading,PA(drop loaded tank,hook dirty mt)
....Reading,PA---->Avenel,NJ(drop dirty tank hook clean tank)
....Avenel,NJ----->Philadelphia,PA(live load)
Philadelphia,PA----->Owosso,MI(home time)
....Owosso,MI---->Milwaukee,WI(driver assist unload,company air)
....Milwaukee,WI---->Crestwood,IL(drop dirt tank hook preloaded tank)
Crestwood,IL----->Cincinatti,OH(driver assist unload with company air)
....Cincinatti,OH--->Grove City,OH(drop dirty hook clean tank)
....Grove City,OH--->Delaware,OH(drop clean hook preloaded tank)
Delaware,OH--->Sparrows Point,MD(driver unload with company air)
....Sparrows Point,MD--->Avenel,NJ(drop dirty hook clean)

Total miles:3217
Deadhead miles:718, 22%
Gross pay:$4,754.52 ($1.48@mile)
YTD miles:3217
YTD gross: $4,754.52 ($1.48@mile)
total loads:4
hazmat:3

Week 3

Avenel,NJ--->Perth Amboy,NJ(live load)
....Perth Amboy,NJ---->La Porte,TX(drop loaded trailer 34hr reset)
La Porte,TX(hook clean)---->Deer Park,TX(live load)
....Deer Park,TX---->Adairsville,GA(driver assist unload with company air)
....Adairsville,GA--->Morrow,GA(drop dirty hook clean,wash hoses)

Total miles: 2575
Deadhead miles: 143, .05%
Gross Pay: $3,686.24 ($1.43@mile)
YTD miles:5792
YTD gross: $8440.76 ($1.46@mile)
total load:6
hazmat:5

Week 4

Morrow,GA--->Columbus,GA(live load)
....Columbus,GA--->Owosso,Mi(home time)
....Owosso,Mi--->Wyandotte,MI(company unload)
....Wyandotte,MI---->Detroit,MI(drop dirty hook preloaded tank)
Detroit,MI---->East Peoria,IL(driver unload with company pump)
....East Peoria,IL---->Crestwood,IL(drop dirty hook preloaded tank)
Crestwood,IL---->Muskegon,MI(company unload)
....Muskegon,MI---->Midlan,MI(drop dirty hook clean live load)
Midland,MI--->Reading,PA(drop loaded hook empty dirty)
....Reading,PA--->Avenel,NJ(drop dirty hook clean)

Total miles: 2935
Deadhead miles: 592, 20%
Gross pay: $5,517.95 ($1.88@mile)
YTD miles:8727
YTD gross: $13,958.71 ($1.60@mile)
total loads:10
hazmat:9

Dejanh 02-05-2007 12:02 PM

Keep it up bro. , am glad things are working out and am glad you are making it nicely.

God bless and may luck follow you in the future.

mike3fan 02-12-2007 12:22 PM

Time for another update,hope you are staying warm....down right cold here!

Quote:

week 5

Avenel,NJ----->Baltimore,MD(live load)
.....Baltimore,MD---->Millsdale,IL(customer unload)
.....Millsdale,IL---->Crestwood,IL(drop dirty,hook loaded tank)
Crestwood,IL----->Twinsburg,OH(customer unload)
.....Twinsburg,OH----->Crestwood,IL(drop dirty,hook loaded tank)
Crestwood,IL----->Monroe,OH(driver assist unload)
.....Monroe,OH---->Grove City,OH(drop dirty hook clean tank)
Grove City,OH---->Delaware,OH(drop dirty hook loaded tank)
.....Delaware,OH---->Ecorse,MI(driver unload)
.....Ecorse,MI---->Detroit,MI(drop dirty pick up clean)
.....Detroit,MI---->Owosso,MI(home time)

Total miles: 2517
Deadhead miles: 490, 19.5%
Gross pay: $3,854.63 ($1.53@ mile)
YTD miles: 11,244
YTD gross: $17,813.34 ($1.58@ mile)
total loads: 14
hazmat: 11

Paul McGraw 02-15-2007 12:27 PM

Thanks for posting all of this information. It is very informative.

mike3fan 02-15-2007 01:19 PM

glad someone is reading it... :D

Paul McGraw 02-15-2007 02:16 PM

mike3fan, I sent you a pm.

rcso 02-15-2007 06:08 PM

If you don't mind could you also post your 'expenses' I've been trying to get that kind of info from O/O, things like weekly gas/insurance, truck payment. Stuff like that. It's nice seeing your gross, but I'd like to see the net.

mike3fan 02-16-2007 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcso
If you don't mind could you also post your 'expenses' I've been trying to get that kind of info from O/O, things like weekly gas/insurance, truck payment. Stuff like that. It's nice seeing your gross, but I'd like to see the net.

I will do it when I get home this weekend.

mike3fan 02-16-2007 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul McGraw
mike3fan, I sent you a pm.

replied

mike3fan 02-17-2007 02:08 PM

Ok I have done some preliminary figures as far as expenses go this is what I have for January

Miles traveled: 12,374
fuel: 0.36@mile
tolls: 0.02@mile
truck pymt: 0.13@mile
truck ins: 0.025@mile
health ins and Work comp: 0.026@mile
repairs(water pump): 0.20@mile
every thing else(scales,washes,idleaire,ups,etc): 0.034@mile

total: 0.795@mile

mike3fan 03-05-2007 10:40 AM

sorry for the delay in posting have been playing in the blizzards the last 2 weeks or so.

week 6

Owosso,MI--->Detroit,Mi(pick-up pre loaded trailer)
.....Detroit,MI---->Saukville,WI(driver unload)
.....Saukville,WI---->Crestwood,IL(drop dirty hook pre loaded)
Crestwood,IL---->Muskegon,MI(driver unload)
.....Muskegon,MI---->Midland,MI(drop dirty hook clean)
.....Midland,MI---->Rosebush,MI(company load)
Rosebush,MI---->Chilicothie,OH(company unload)
.....Chilicothie,OH---->Grove City,OH(drop dirty hook clean)
Grove City,OH---->Delaware,OH(drop clean hook preloaded)
.....Delaware,OH---->Portage,In(driver unload)
.....Portage,IN---->Grayling,IN(drop dirty hook clean)
Grayling,MI----->Waterville,OH(driver unload)
.....Waterville,Oh---->Owosso,MI(home time)

Total miles: 2795
Deadhead miles: 1091, 39%
Gross pay: $3,415.30 ($1.22@ mile)
YTD miles: 14,039
YTD gross: $21,228.64 ($1.51@ mile)
total loads: 19
hazmat: 16



week 7

Owosso,MI---->Crestwood,IL(drop dirty)
Crestwood,IL---->Hammond,IL(bobtail)
.....Hammond,IN---->Delaware,OH(driver unload truck pump)
.....Delaware,OH---->Grove City,OH(drop dirty hook clean)
Grove City,OH---->Delaware,OH(drop clean hook preloaded)
....Delaware,OH---->Dearborn,MI(driver unload)
....Dearborn,MI---->Owosso,MI(home time)

Total miles: 1,053
Deadhead miles: 532, 51%
Gross pay: $1,407.96 ($1.34@ mile)
YTD miles: 15,092
YTD gross: $22,636.60 (($1.50@ mile)
Total loads: 21
hazmat:16



week 8

Owosso,MI---->Midland,MI(drop dirty hook clean,company load)
.....Midland,MI---->Marinette,WI(driver unload)
.....Marinette,WI---->Midland,MI(drop dirty hook clean company load)
Midland,MI---->Cohoes,NY(company unload)
.....Cohoes,NY---->Avenel,NJ(drop dirty hook preloaded)
Avenel,NJ---->Lima,OH(company unload)
.....Lima,OH---->Grove City,OH(drop dirty hook clean)

Total miles: 2653
Deadhead miles: 747, 28%
Gross pay: $3,701.30 ($1.40@ mile)
YTD miles: 17,745
YTD gross: $26,337.90 ($1.48@ mile)
Total loads: 24
hazmat: 18

Dejanh 03-09-2007 12:49 PM

Forgot to ask if % is taken out of that gross or is this your gross?

mike3fan 03-09-2007 12:52 PM

that is my pay,also the weeks are a bit misleading.The gross pay numbers I have posted so far are for all trip completed thru 2/15/07.

My pay is held two weeks.... :x

Maniac 03-09-2007 01:40 PM

Hey Mike, I sent you a PM 8)

Dejanh 03-09-2007 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike3fan
that is my pay,also the weeks are a bit misleading.The gross pay numbers I have posted so far are for all trip completed thru 2/15/07.

My pay is held two weeks.... :x

Total miles: 2653
Deadhead miles: 747, 28%
Gross pay: $3,701.30 ($1.40@ mile)
YTD miles: 17,745
YTD gross: $26,337.90 ($1.48@ mile)
Total loads: 24
hazmat: 18

So no 67-68 or whatever % out of that 26,337.90..

Just trying to clear thing out.

mike3fan 03-09-2007 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dejanh
Quote:

Originally Posted by mike3fan
that is my pay,also the weeks are a bit misleading.The gross pay numbers I have posted so far are for all trip completed thru 2/15/07.

My pay is held two weeks.... :x

Total miles: 2653
Deadhead miles: 747, 28%
Gross pay: $3,701.30 ($1.40@ mile)
YTD miles: 17,745
YTD gross: $26,337.90 ($1.48@ mile)
Total loads: 24
hazmat: 18

So no 67-68 or whatever % out of that 26,337.90..

Just trying to clear thing out.

Nope it's all mine,except for the bank,irs,and everyone else's cut....

Dejanh 03-09-2007 02:31 PM

So whats the gross-gross do you know?

mike3fan 03-10-2007 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dejanh
So whats the gross-gross do you know?

Not sure why that would be relevant?

Maniac 03-10-2007 05:30 AM

Gross , net, WHATEVER...all I ever cared about is what is MINE, what do I keep.

Those that spit out the gross numbers only feel the need to sound important, only thing important in this buisnes is what YOU get to keep after all the smoke and mirrors and BS clear.

And Dana transport DOES put the ACTUAL rate on the settlement sheet (what THEY get) and then breaks down the percent to you.

Dejanh 03-10-2007 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike3fan
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dejanh
So whats the gross-gross do you know?

Not sure why that would be relevant?

Just checking to see are they telling you the gross profit..

mike3fan 03-10-2007 05:46 AM

yes gross is listed,then my percentage + accesserials

Dejanh 03-11-2007 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike3fan
yes gross is listed,then my percentage + accesserials

Good deal, went to the site and the link for dana was down for some reason, what are the requirements do you know, i for one do not have tanker expirience so would that be taken into concideration for ex. ?

Maniac 03-11-2007 10:51 AM

Try this




http://www.danacompanies.com/recruiting.html

mike3fan 03-11-2007 12:16 PM

or try this

www.suttlestruck.com

Dejanh 03-11-2007 05:01 PM

Even though terminal is located in Charlotte i didnt find any openings for my area, was your area the same?

BTW
Terminal is 2 minutes from where i live off of Brookshire, if ever in the area you're welcome to come to my house for lunch :) ...

thanx for the links..

mike3fan 03-12-2007 03:27 AM

You can ask if they can get you out in the system on the first load and then run the system,that's what I do I leave out on the first trip through my terminal and then run the system most of the time after that.

mdf1576 03-12-2007 07:00 AM

Are you from owosso MI? Just wondering, a large part of my family is from there.

mike3fan 03-12-2007 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdf1576
Are you from owosso MI? Just wondering, a large part of my family is from there.

for last 42 yrs :D

Maniac 03-12-2007 08:54 AM

Quote:

i didnt find any openings for my area,

They don't really keep the website current, best bet is go in to the terminal and talk to Ben.

Dejanh 03-12-2007 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maniac
Quote:

i didnt find any openings for my area,

They don't really keep the website current, best bet is go in to the terminal and talk to Ben.

That be in Charlotte,NC..

mike3fan 03-12-2007 10:34 AM

Yeah I guess his name is Ben,I haven't pulled a load for him yet,but I did talk to one of his O/O's today and I guess they are looking for some trucks.800-796-3262

mike3fan 03-12-2007 10:50 AM

Now back to our previously scheduled programming time for an update:

week ending 2/25

Grove City,OH---->Delaware,OH(drop clean hook preloaded)
.....Delaware,OH---->Owosso,MI(home time)
.....Owosso,MI----->Ecorse,MI(driver unload,plant air)
.....Ecorse,MI----->Midland,MI(drop dirty hook clean,live load)
Midland,MI----->Cincinatti,OH(company unload)
.....Cincinatti,OH----->Grove City,OH(drop dirty hook clean)
.....Grove City,OH---->Delaware,OH(drop clean hook preloaded)
Delaware,OH---->Portage,IN(driver unload plant air)
.....Portage,IN---->Midland,MI(drop dirty,hook clean,live load)
Midland,MI---->Reading,PA(drop load,hook dirty)
....Reading,PA----->Avenel,NJ(drop dirty,hook clean)

Total miles: 2461
Deadhead miles: 730, 30%
Gross Pay: $3937.09 ($1.60@ mile)
YTD Miles:20,206
YTD Gross: $30,274.99($1.50@ mile)
Total loads: 28
hazmat: 21

mdf1576 03-12-2007 11:27 AM

do you happen to know any wenzlicks? by chance

mike3fan 03-12-2007 01:57 PM

I play hockey with a Dave Wenzlick

Orangetxguy 03-14-2007 01:39 AM

Mike..why aren't you doing system hauls right now, versus doing the regional hauls you have been doing?

mike3fan 03-14-2007 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orangetxguy
Mike..why aren't you doing system hauls right now, versus doing the regional hauls you have been doing?

I have been going were they have been sending me,I also think that if you can load and deliver everyday you can make more money.

Orangetxguy 03-14-2007 03:09 AM

Thanks

mike3fan 03-19-2007 10:13 AM

update time

Week ending 3/4

Avenel,NJ---->Pennsauken,NJ(bobtail,hook container)
Pennsauken,NJ------>Shadeland,IN(live unload,hazardous waste)
....Shadeland,IN----->Pennsauken,NJ(empty,roundtrip,drop container)
....Pennsauken,NJ---->Avenel,NJ(bobtail,hook clean tank)
Avenel,NJ---->Carteret,NJ(live load)
....Carteret,NJ----->Harbor Beach,MI(driver assist,plant air)
....Harbor Beach,MI---->Grayling,MI(drop dirty,hook clean,live load)
Grayling,MI----->Grand Rapids,MI(driver unload,plant air)
....Grand Rapids,MI---->Midland,MI(drop dirty hook clean,live load)
Midland,MI---->Owosso,MI(home time)

Total miles: 2968
Deadhead miles: 569, 19%
Gross pay: $3630.42 ($1.22@ mile)
YTD miles: 23,174
YTD Gross: $33,905.41 ($1.46@ mile)
Total loads: 31
hazmat: 22

ColtsFan 03-22-2007 11:46 PM

Hello,

I will be starting out in the biz later this year and want to keep my options open. I live in Terre Haute, IN. Is this a good area to get in and out of? I dont mind being gone a few days. But, I dont want it to be a hassle everytime I want/need to get home. I have looked into Prime as my 1st carrier since it appears they will take you with 0 experience. Any input is apprecitated.

Thanks,
Jay

mike3fan 03-23-2007 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColtsFan
Hello,

I will be starting out in the biz later this year and want to keep my options open. I live in Terre Haute, IN. Is this a good area to get in and out of? I dont mind being gone a few days. But, I dont want it to be a hassle everytime I want/need to get home. I have looked into Prime as my 1st carrier since it appears they will take you with 0 experience. Any input is apprecitated.

Thanks,
Jay

Prime wouldn't take me because of the wheelbase on my truck was 270"
Our dispatch would like us to stay out 7-10 days,but that hasn't happened much to me,unless I wanted it to.

I-70 is a very good lane to run,I would think that you would not have a problem running through there alot.

The 3 companies I suggest you check out are Dana/Suttles/LiquidTransport,Superior Carriers,and Henniff


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