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golfhobo 12-27-2008 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 607 (Post 430904)
Scaled today after loading and got the following weights (after sliding axles and fifth wheel)
Steers 12520
Drives 34040
Tandems 34040
Gross 80560

I know, Over on gross and all axles. Qaulcom'ed my dispatcher he said to "run with it", and gave me a route to use that had the fewest scales on it. Dispatcher says company will pay for ticket(s) if needed.

My question is what are the negatives for me? I ask because I realised that if I am involved in an accident I will be the one in hot water with the law. Is it reportable to DAC or DMV or others? Points on license? Am I missing anything?

Was this with full tanks? [Is there a scale within 300 miles?] If so, slide the 5th wheel back one or two notches (depending on whether it is a double or single bar.) Then slide the tandems UP one notch. Try to divide the overage between the drives and tandems. MOST scales will not even look at the overage, especially if you can burn some fuel to get under or close to gross. Then, when you have burned off half a tank, reposition and don't fill your tanks over half full. (560 lbs / 8 lbs a gallon = 70 gallons.) Keep your tanks 70 gallons low AT the scales.

Yes, you have it on qualcomm, but that may not save you. I would have asked to have something taken OFF the load. Don't worry about DAC or DMV. There are no points (that I'm aware of) for an overweight ticket.

And, don't GET into an accident! ;)

The easiest way to deal with overgross is to have it in your fuel tanks, and plan your route so that you will burn it off before you cross an open scale.

Rev.Vassago 12-27-2008 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LightsChromeHorsepower (Post 431023)
Have you considered taking this guy to court for at least one of the things he said about you?

What exactly could he be sued for? A username cutting down another user name?

Sorry, but that's just plain ridiculous.

Rev.Vassago 12-28-2008 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by golfhobo (Post 431027)
Then, when you have burned off half a tank, reposition and don't fill your tanks over half full. (560 lbs / 8 lbs a gallon = 70 gallons.)

Diesel doesn't weigh 8 lbs per gallon. Depending upon where you are, the time of year, and what additives have been added, diesel fuel will weigh anywhere from 6.75 lbs per gallon to 7.25 lbs per gallon. To be safe, I wouldn't count on it weighing any more than 6 lbs per gallon, just to give some breathing room.

Here's a simple fuel weight calculator, although YMMV.

RV Calculators - Liquid Weight Calculator

LightsChromeHorsepower 12-28-2008 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago (Post 431028)
What exactly could he be sued for? A username cutting down another user name?

Sorry, but that's just plain ridiculous.

Calling someone a child molester is slander dude.

(I've asked you nicely to stop reposting this crap.)

Rev.Vassago 12-28-2008 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by LightsChromeHorsepower (Post 431034)
Calling someone a child molester is slander dude

First off, there is nowhere on this website where he has been called that. I made sure of that.

Secondly, I doubt "BigDiesel" is his real name, and it would be up to golfhobo to not only figure out who he is, but where he lives.

Thirdly, slander refers to the spoken word. Libel refers to the written word.

Fourthly, the statement has to be proven to have damaged, or have the potential of damaging the reputation of the person being written about.

And fifthly, you could be sued just as easily for rebroadcasting those statements.

Some intersting information regarding slander and libel can be found here:

FAQ about Defamation -- Chilling Effects Clearinghouse

golfhobo 12-28-2008 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LightsChromeHorsepower (Post 431023)
It's tire width, not inflation (PSI) but thanks for the support. Have you considered taking this guy to court for at least one of the things he said about you? My bet is that he will totally ignore this thread now that he is proved incorrect.

I knew that wasn't a fully encompassing answer, It IS actually more about width, it has to do with how much rubber meets the road under weight. But, you get my drift. I was not referencing the PSI of the tire, but the LOAD weight limits of the tire.... which has to do with width.

I wouldn't waste my TIME taking him to court. This is not a "public newspaper." He's not worth the effort. Besides..... the Rev is on top of it! :hellno::lol2:

There's really no recourse against internet Rambos, except to put them in their place. Unfortunately, doing that sometimes puts one's self in a bad light/place. I've proven I can shut him down, but it cost me. He's proven what type of "man" he is. He goes out of his way to pick on women and "non drivers" as if that makes him special. The sad thing is... I think he BELIEVES that. Not consciously, of course. That would require intelligence and education. No, with him, I believe it is more primitive and pre-ordained, kind of like Darwin's theory of evolution.

Oh, and I guarantee he will return to this thread! :lol:

Wow.... I see the conversation is getting ahead of me. I'll have to post more quickly! :lol2:

jonp 12-28-2008 12:43 AM

Count on diesel to weigh 8lbs/gal if your near your axle weight and are figuring on fueling to allow yourself some lea-way.

VA is the same on over-weight tickets as FL in impounding trucks for non-payment. It happened to me. I rolled up on the scales in Troutdale and got a red-light. Not a problem as I was legal all the way around. Grabbed my log, permits and eased on inside. Said good morning and started to slide the books on under the window and the cop said he didnt need to see them. That was the good news. The bad news was that he was impounding my truck.
"WHAT???? "
"Don't get alarmed" he said. "One of your drivers got an overweight fine here last month. He had 30 days to pay it, didnt and the Commonwealth of Virginia has suspended your companies Authority to operate here until its paid. We seize the first truck that comes across the scales and your it."
I laughed and said "ok, now what?"
He said just pay the fine and its all set. "We take comchecks, visa and cash"
I laughed again and said " I bet you do" Let me get you a comcheck" Called my dispatcher up and he laughed and said he'd never heard of such a thing but no problem and approved the comcheck for about $100 i think it was. He also wanted the truck number of the non-payer. Guess who's a** was in a crack for that one. The DOT was a good sport about it and we all got a chuckle.

Rev.Vassago 12-28-2008 12:43 AM

I think enough has already been said regarding the subject of libel, defamation, and child molesting. Let's please keep this thread on topic from here on in. Thanks.

jonp 12-28-2008 12:46 AM

As for overweight: I never run overgross. some will let you slide as long as your not way over, some won't. I have yet to get a ticket for being over axle as long as my gross is ok. The scale master has always told me what the weight is and to pull over, move it and come across again. I've done this from Maine to California. I'll point out that I'm not way over, usually if I am its 1,000lbs or less.

golfhobo 12-28-2008 12:47 AM

I already said that the subject was closed. Back on topic. ~Rev.


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