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Karnajj 05-29-2008 01:52 AM

Re: Why don't T/A, Pilot, Flying J, Blue B, timestamp receip
 
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Originally Posted by belpre122
I'm interested to hear from the apologists on this one???? I know that it is readily available if requested. Why not print it out on all receipts given to every driver?
Why the mystery? Please convince me that the full time stamp should not be there.

Why get so upset over such a meaningless issue? Have a lot of extra time on our hands do we?

BigDiesel 05-29-2008 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Walking Eagle
If you use a CC for fuel, Comdata, TCH etc. when the company get the bill it shows right on there the time to the minute when you fueled at XYZ stop also if you run into a real Ahole DOT they can request it from the station you are showing. Been there, done that with both DOT and the company log department.

DOT would need to obtain a court order to view credit card transactions...

Chasing Daylight 05-29-2008 02:16 AM

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i had an 0/0 that lived next door to me ....real nice guy allways payed for fuel with cash drives 58 mph hour and logs 70 ......not a bad deal

so he effectively looses 12mph. over the course of ten hours, thats 120 miles. So he drives 13.5 hours and logs 11? Guess sleep isn't a priority for him.

Or maybe he's got the right connections, a healthy paycheck, and the rig payed for. Just sayin'. :)


If that were the case, he wouldn't need to BS his logs. He could run 58, log 58 and be fine.

BigWheels 05-30-2008 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdad7
i had an 0/0 that lived next door to me ....real nice guy allways payed for fuel with cash drives 58 mph hour and logs 70 ......not a bad deal

so he effectively looses 12mph. over the course of ten hours, thats 120 miles. So he drives 13.5 hours and logs 11? Guess sleep isn't a priority for him.

Or maybe he's got the right connections, a healthy paycheck, and the rig payed for. Just sayin'. :)


If that were the case, he wouldn't need to BS his logs. He could run 58, log 58 and be fine.

Yeah, I had a different take on the logging 70 part -- having 8-days to log 70-hours (rather then driving 58mph and then logging 70mph).

stanman63 05-30-2008 12:11 PM

i wish some of you people would start living in the real world. its to hard to log the dot way day in and day out and make any money. the way shippers work any more you would be hard pressed to get seven or eight hours of driving most of the time. and the dot can not get any info about fuel stops from calling or logging on to any thing they dont give out that kind of information

b00m 05-31-2008 12:19 AM

Having a receipt on you with an exact time and date just really shows what and where you were doing.More government control over us ,and sincerely i don't NEED IT!!!.But anyways,i know someone that got nailed when he kept his toll receipts next to his log book.A big NO NO since the DOT nailed him really good for forging his log book. But yes, i have this question: are you really obligated to keep the fuel receipts even tough lets say you account for fuel purchases electronically?Can they make you provide them?

Kaji 05-31-2008 12:27 AM

They can't force you to provide receipts as far as I know but they do have full access to your comdata card, even your supposedly private bank account side. I write out my entire day's log around the fuel stop if I have to save time. Compress the before and after and they have no way of knowing.

chuck3507 05-31-2008 06:28 AM

Re: Why don't T/A, Pilot, Flying J, Blue B, timestamp receip
 
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Originally Posted by belpre122
I'm interested to hear from the apologists on this one???? I know that it is readily available if requested. Why not print it out on all receipts given to every driver?
Why the mystery? Please convince me that the full time stamp should not be there.

Maybe they should outlaw loose leaf logbooks also??? With no time on the receipt you just have to log it on the right day.

belpre122 05-31-2008 08:44 AM

Re: Why don't T/A, Pilot, Flying J, Blue B, timestamp receip
 
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Originally Posted by Karnajj
Why get so upset over such a meaningless issue?

It is a very meaningful issue in regards to companies/dispatchers leaning on drivers to run illegally based on the so-called 'absence' of a time-stamp readily printed on the paper receipt.

Ever wonder how many drivers have been burned because he/she felt that since the paper receipt did not note an actual time.................they were off the hook? Until they went to court....................and/or prison.

I recently read an article on one of these sites regarding a driver who was burned, when it was shown from a cellular company's records that he was indeed talking on a cell phone at the time of an accident. Imagine the shock on his (and the attorney's) faces when the plaintiff presented that little zinger! Oooops.
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Originally Posted by Karnajj
Have a lot of extra time on our hands do we?

Yep! Us fuel transport drivers tend to have that problem.

Go Reds!
:wink: :D

Karnajj 06-01-2008 02:00 AM

Re: Why don't T/A, Pilot, Flying J, Blue B, timestamp receip
 
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Originally Posted by belpre122
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Originally Posted by Karnajj
Why get so upset over such a meaningless issue?

It is a very meaningful issue in regards to companies/dispatchers leaning on drivers to run illegally based on the so-called 'absence' of a time-stamp readily printed on the paper receipt.

Ever wonder how many drivers have been burned because he/she felt that since the paper receipt did not note an actual time.................they were off the hook? Until they went to court....................and/or prison.

I recently read an article on one of these sites regarding a driver who was burned, when it was shown from a cellular company's records that he was indeed talking on a cell phone at the time of an accident. Imagine the shock on his (and the attorney's) faces when the plaintiff presented that little zinger! Oooops.
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Originally Posted by Karnajj
Have a lot of extra time on our hands do we?

Yep! Us fuel transport drivers tend to have that problem.

Go Reds!
:wink: :D

If you think carriers are using a lack of a time stamp as a means of getting drivers to drive illegally your nuts. There are too many other ways for the dot to check your log for that to be effective.


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