So this J.B. recruiter has called me offering .40 cents a
 

Not sure how how he came across my number but during my 56 hour time at home break thusday and friday he called. He said as soon as I get 90 days in at Schneider he can get me a job starting at .40 cents a mile, 12 days out 4 days at home $1200.00 a week.

The .40 cents a mile sounds a little too god to be true. Since i Ihave been driving with Schnieder for about 2 months plus i am under a 1 year contract, i am making less than .30 cents a mile.

I have heard many bad things about JB Hunt, what is the catch to all this??? I have only 2 months driving experince and they will pay .40 cents a mile??

JB Hunt
 

Send a PM to "Sheepdancer" on this board, he recruits for JB. Did you check JBs website to confirm the pay? BOL

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It all comes down to miles - The carriers who are offering a higher per-mile rate generally don't get you consistant miles. I've heard that JB is a medium-haul company, and that most of their trips are 500 miles or less. I'm sure Sheepdancer will claim otherwise, but then again, he also refuses to put any sort of mileage guarantees in writing.

JB is like Heartland (who offers $0.50 per mile). Less miles, more money. Not necessarily a bad thing, as long as the hometime is there.

Rev is correct in that this is usually the case, shorter runs pay higher cpm.

JB is a large company that gets and deserves a lot of flack for some of the bad that comes with being a large compnay. However, I'm sure there are a lot of good aspects to the company as well as they have several content drivers to go along with the ones that were "wronged" by a recruiter. In reality, they're just another trucking company. You could throw them all in a hat and pull one out and chance are the biggest deciding factor on whether you would have a good career with them would be you. I'm sure there are plenty of drivers even in their OTR division that get good miles and make a high cpm, they just don't tend to come on here and brag about it. We all know their are plenty of others who have been "screwed" over by them.

One thing I will say that I believe is a plus for JB, if you look at their website they list the opportunities available to you by state, region whatever. Many of them have elaborate descriptions where they even list the miles that you will get on a certain route and the pay you will receive. A lot of dedicated accounts with them only require 3 months experience. I haven't seen too many other companies that will put in print how many miles you will receive other than to say, "our drivers average 2300 miles in this region" or "you'll get between 2200 & 2600 miles per week". To me that's a heckuva difference and the average doesn't mean squat! The reality is that no company can guarantee a certain number of miles unless it's a dedicated account. Just because one driver does that kind of mileage doesn't mean you will.

A JB recruiter told me a dedicated route in my area wuld pay .41/mile and would make $1100/week. I'm trying to find something with a local company so I can home each night as I have a few projects to work on. Some local companie want to pay me $11/hr. :roll:
I don't live with parents :lol:

And I'm sure he'll put it in writing, and if you don't make the $1100 a week he promises, then he will make up the difference. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's best to ignore ANY sort of numbers a recruiter gives you, when it comes to what type of miles you'll average, and what you'll take home.

I have been working for JB Hunt since the first of December, I have been averaging 2700-2800 miles a week and bringing home $800-$900 a week. Starting out as a new driver you have nothing to lose if you come drive for JB, most new drivers are making .28 cpm and running their ass off to make $400-$500 a week ( I know I did). I have wrote in other threads about JB Hunt but the key to making money with them is to stay out at least 3 weeks, if you go home every 14 days you probably won't make much.

I have nothing to gain or any reason to BS you, I got my call back notice to Roadway so I'm going to finish this next week with them and go back to Roadway, if I didn't get a call back I would stay with JB Hunt. People will BS you when they are getting a referral bonus or they are paid to recruit you.

I can say that everything Sheepdancer (JB recruiter) told me was 100% accurate, he didn't lie to me and he didn't BS me.

BOL, any other questions pm me.

I agree it probably is best to ignore what a recruiter is telling you about miles and pay, etc... However, if this dedicated job exists you can go to their website and print it out. It will describe the miles and pay and at least you will have something in writing. Doesn't mean you won't get burned in some way or another, but to JB's credit at least they are giving you something in writing.

No recruiter (or any other company representative) is going to give you the difference in pay if you fail to average what they said they you will. Some companies might offer a minimum pay for every week or load, but most will have loopholes around paying this money out also. We all know that JB is not alone in this department.

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Not bad if you don't mind sitting around truckstops, dropyards, and consignees for no money waiting on loads. These medium-haul companies might bump up their mileage rates but they turn around and shaft you on your time.

Last summer, I went to see my little cousin play softball on a Saturday and I noticed two Heartland trucks sitting at the dock in Sears. Game ended and I walked back out to my car and they were out of the dock and parked in the Sears lot. Went home, watched the race, and then took the whole clan out to Olive Garden in the evening. Sure enough, I drove by that Sears and those Heartland guys were STILL sitting there. 10 hours on a Saturday stuck there in the big truck waiting for loads w/o making ONE THIN DIME! Why are they doing this for nothing?

Too many drivers focus on mileage but it's only one component of a driver's job. Look at Wallyworld drivers, they only start out at around 37.5 cpm. But they pull down $70,000+ because they get paid for everything when the truck stops. That's the way all OTR jobs should be, but so many guys enjoy working for peanuts.

Recruiters are like salesman. Don't believe a word they say. Talk to drivers if you want to get the real scoop.

That only comes out to $0.32 per mile. What gives?

Rev, the 32cpm is his take home pay (post tax pay).

If he's doing 40cpm at 2800 miles/week, thats $1120, and if you take home 77% after taxes, thats between 8-900/week.

Where do I sign up? :lol:

And I feel insulted a JB Hunt recruiter doesn't blow up my cell phone with job offers? 8)

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Thats a good observation. Did you ever consider that while you are in your home watching the race they are sitting in their home also watching the race? Did you ever consider that they are out on a weekend because they chose too?

This is were people get the wrong idea about certain company's. Just because you see a Heartland truck sitting at a dock over the weekend doesn't mean that they are a bad company, a person would assume "they leave there drivers out all weekend and don't pay them, they must be horrible company!". Then you tell you tell your buddy's what you saw and they all think that Heartland must be a horrible company. Then you post a message on a message board about what you saw. Now how many people now think Heartland is a horrible company from just your observation?

I am not saying you are wrong in this situation but just pointing out how people assume what it's like to work for a company when they themselves have no real experience with that company.

2800 miles divided by $900 = $0.32 per mile. :roll:

$0.32 + 23% for taxes = $0.39 per mile.

And BTW, an AVERAGE is not a RANGE of numbers. They teach you that in grade school math. :lol: :roll:

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Weak rant.

You have NO idea what those drivers were doing or whether or not they were being paid.

Stay with your current contract until you are GUARANTEE a job that pays better, not just a trip to orientation. And that goes for all companies, not just JB. We have all seen drivers go home from orientation without a job. Quiting now before you can pay for the contract is not a very smart move.

By the way, I am a DISGRUNTLE ex-JB Hunt driver. So I won't comment about JB. But make sure you do the math, and take into consideration that a recruiter might not tell you the truth......

Just my .02 cents. :wink:

40cpm paid on HHG miles is actually around 34cpm.... or just a tad more depending on the where and when.....

Its a simple fact.

Personally, I can't see why all companies don't just get off the dime and start paying their drivers properly....to include automatic detention, etc....then they could keep some of their drivers and waste less on advertising and turnover recovery. Simply amazing that their "bean-counters" can't fathom this and convince the rest of management.... :shock: :? :? :shock: 8)

Part of the problem is that the companies book/accept loads on HHG miles. Its understandable that if the calculate the trip on HHG miles, that they pay HHG miles.

I say...If they want to pay HHG miles, which are always short miles..they need to hire a 747, not a Peterbilt.

Otherwise...why not stop at the number of miles they are paying to move the truck..and tell them where they need to come to, to receive thier product.

Good point, but agreeing to a haul then not delivering is bad business :lol:

The old way of business is just not cutting it anymore. With lots of carriers advertising practical miles over hhg, this should move the industry forward for both shippers and drivers.

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Well it was a Saturday and the wheels weren't turning and they were parked in a Sears lot for more than 10 hours. And I noticed when I drove by to go to church on Sunday morning they were gone. Doesn't take a genius to figure out that they weren't making any money because an OTR company will only pay layover AFTER 24 hours. That is, if they even pay it at all. From what I understand about Heartland, it's lots of sitting around all day and running short-haul at night.

There's a grocery warehouse a few exits up from where I live and on Sunday night, there's always a line of trucks parked on the street and on the off-ramp for an early Monday morning delivery. So for all that time, those guys are stuck there in the big truck without making any $$$$.

Hey if that's what makes those guys happy then so be it. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Speaking for myself at least, I really don't like working weekends. And if for whatever reason I had to, I'd want to be paid for each and every one of those hours I was sitting because I value my time. But that's just me.

Even, I, who have been in this industry for a very short time see this. How much money are companies losing with such a high turn over rate? Accidents rates will be higher causing insurance to be higher. I say keep your experienced drivers and pay them more, in the long run the company will be better off.

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Its called "getting ahead of schedule" :wink: When us OTR guys can do it, we like to get places early so we can make deliveries quick so we can reload quick. Believe it or not, sometimes we actually get all 10 hrs of sleep :lol:

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And there's no way they could have been on a local delivery making hourly wage?

Is this the first time you've noted that it's okay to be a long haul driver if that's what someone wants to be?

Not everyone can get a job at an LTL terminal. They aren't everywhere. If you live in BFE Mississippi, you can likely get a job driving long haul, but who's going to make the 90 mile drive (each way) to Memphis 5 days a week for an LTL job?

I've seen local jobs for $10/hr, I've seen local jobs for $28/hr.

I've seen otr jobs paying peanuts, and otr jobs paying, well, MY 1099 :lol: :wink:

Sometimes my truck sits for a few days, not making money. I also work weekends, consecutively! :) However, I take months off in the winter (as does my father) to leave the country. Vacation time? ha! I run when I want, and how I want :)

Its a balance beam. How hard you'll work to make the cheddar, or what sacrifices you'll make to do a job. The best advice I ever got was...'The jobs that pay the most, require the most sacrifices." Then CR England came along lol

:lol: :lol: :lol:

The truth is, many OTR companies recruit from areas such as BFE :wink: Also, lower income areas are popular recruiting grounds because of job availability.

So you assume I have no other deductions? You know that little phrase about assuming? Didn't anyone teach you what it makes you look like?

Just saying, Rev.

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Nope. I will tell you the truth, we are a medium to longhaul company. We really just run the eastern have of the states so the average length of haul is a little over 500.
Everything I tell the driver is on a website if he wants anything in writing.
As far as promising miles.....I can tell you what the average miles are for that run. Which is also on the website. Whether you are an above average driver or not is up to you. You cant promise me that you will work harder than average, I cant promise you above average miles. I can tell you I have hired quite a few above average drivers who do better than what i tell them. I can also tell you I have hired quite a few drivers who told me they were above average drivers and they were not.

As far as the 40cpm....Yes, if you are in IN, OH, PA or KY...you will start out at at least 40 cpm. Fleet average out of that area for miles is about 2500 a week. Now, I will be honest with you. If you only have 3 months exp, most likely you havent become an average driver yet, you are still learning. Miles arent handed to you. There are way to get better miles that you will learn in time. So I would say count on 2300 miles a week average until you learn the system. 40cpm x 2300 a week = 920 gross a week. Not a bad paycheck for a newbie and probably way better than you are making over there.

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What trucking company will put a guarantee on miles in writing?

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I used to work for one.

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:roll:

yeah, but which one??

Thats a typical Rev answer jedxg, then he will ignore our questions then define what he thinks "guarantee" means and argue about something no one said. :roll:

OK, OK....I have had a change of heart. I can now use the term guarantee.

I sheepdancer will officially Guarantee you will "get miles" And for a limited time if you ever have to go to Canada, you will "get kilometers" too!

That was a good one...lol

Doesn't really matter, as it was a small outfit in Wisconsin (6 trucks). I doubt you're gonna go file an application.

Typical recruiter dribble. If you actually had faith in the company you recruited for, you would be able to guarantee something of legitimate worth.

I have faith in the company, if I didnt, I wouldnt work here.
Also, Im just a recruiter, I dont make company policy. But I can tell you that if I ran a trucking company, I wouldnt guarantee miles either.
REALITY, you as a driver cant guarantee that you will never be in a accident, you cant guarantee that you will always be on time. You cant guarantee that you will never get sick. You cant guarantee that you are an above average driver. Once again, the only thing I can do is tell you what the average driver is making. Whether you are an above average driver or not isnt up to me, its up to you.
Hell, nothing about my job is guaranteed. Well, I take that back, Im guaranteed to make at least minimum wage if I come to work. I wouldnt have it any other way.