A........ the Republicans or the ones donating to there campaigns are the ones who price gouge and profiteer

Why blame the politicians? Why blame the Liberals? Blame the other dumb Americans who are driving cars and vehicles that are too big and heavy at rediculous speeds and not chainging their buying habits AT ALL. When the demand drops, the prices will too. As long as the moron races go on and they keep filling up these big cars and trucks without slowing down or limiting their use of the vehilces, it just proves that gas and fuel is too cheap and they may need to raise the prices even higher. I'd like to see $5 a gallon, maybe then the people will "get it". If you don't like how much the fuel is.. change your habits and quit buying that crap as often! If you want to make money in this situation, buy an oil company.

Why blame the politicians? Because they have shut and locked the door and prevented us for too long from drilling for oil in the contiguous 48 states, because they have stopped us from drilling for oil on the outer continental shelf, and because they have prevented us from drilling for oil in ANWR. All of which would not only make us much less dependent on foreign oil and thus our national security much more secure than it is today, but with the added supplies combined from all these sources together when added to the pool of already existing available oil would make the price substantially lower than what it is today also. While at the same time also depriving the likes of the Islamofascist Jihadists and the Leftist Hugo Chavez?s of the world hard currency in which to wreck havoc and spread their misery.

Never mind the thousands of high paying lucrative jobs that would also be created domestically by the expansion of the oil industry and that would further be a boost to the economy, and never mind the fact that the Left's environmental extremism also prevents us from building any new oil refineries or even building environmentally clean nuclear plants.

And what?s behind it all? Why a lot of it has to do with the junk science that led to the global warming scare and now being widely debunked by new revelations almost on a daily basis, but a lot of it also has to do with a collective guilt complex suffered by the Left because America has been so enormously economically successful relative to the rest of the world, and also a lot of it has to do with the Left?s insane and inane hatred of all things having to do with corporations, capitalism, and especially, God forbid, profits.

Moreover, I?m one of those heavy footed dumb ass Americans driving one of those way too big and way too heavy gas guzzling vehicles that consumes entirely way too much fuel, and I?m not about to change my lifestyle or any of my wasteful habits because some dumb assed liberals believe in junk science and all suffer from some sort of insane collective guilt complex. Furthermore, if you hate capitalism and corporations so much, get over it, move to Sweden or something because that?s your problem and you have no right to foolishly attempt to force the rest of us sane Americans to conform to your idiotic idiosyncrasies. Anybody who professes that they would like to see $5 a gallon gasoline in order to force us to conform to their idiotic ideas of a socialist utopia, ought to have their head examined to see if their pea-sized brain is still intact and not atrophying.

Uhm....Flash...the FTC has concluded their investigation and like the other 11 times previously, when demogogued by the Left that the oil companies were price gouging, no price gouging was found. It's just impossible for some people to wake up and smell the coffee.

There is no supply problem and there really never has been. You can drill all the oil you want, you still cannot push it through the ancient refining systems that we have now. Right now the only thing that will work is dropping the demand for the fuel. As for socialist remark.. its not I who is asking that the government provide fuel and cheap prices now is it? The fact is that you reap what you sow. You have declared your position about not chaning your habits so just enjoy the prices because it's this mindset that has allowed it to happen to us again. The Liberals get a lot of help from the general public (including the supposed conservatives), when they offer to build a refinery, they get shot down by the LOCALS! The liberal politicians are not stupid, they'd love to have a new refinery whereever they can get one. The people are just delusional and just like the groceries in the store appearing like magic, so does the fuel at the gas station.

Kinda old thread, I just had to wonder if anyone was <u>blameing</u> Mr Bush for the recent lower price of fuel? Seems they blame him for everything!

Hell any party Democrats or Republican, that can dictate the world market of oil for elections need to stay in office if they have that much power.

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I have suspected since the beginning that the war in Iraq is not about getting oil out of the ground; but keeping it IN the ground. They used to supply 15% of our oil. Keeping it in the ground is nothing new. I saw it firsthand with my own eyes in '76. I worked for a barge line in the gulf of mexico and as we passed Orange Texas it looked like a large city out on the water at night. One week later we came through and most of the lights on the rigs were out. Two days later in New Orleans the Sunday paper's headline read "Oil Shortage". It took those idiots in congress 6 months to figure this one out!
Last year there was news of the Alaska pipeline not being properly mantained. Gee big surprise! The oil companies never keep their promises to the govt. They were supposed to build a natural gas pipeline in Alaska. They haven't. Currenty they have 4 jet engines pumping natural gas BACK INTO the ground.
All of the oil companies have a long history of financing BOTH parties at the same time. That way no matter who is elected THEY WIN!
We will continue to be the losers until there is a serious threat to nationalize the oil comanies and take all this power and greed away from them.

Hate to tell you all. We had the answer.

It wasn't until I watch "Who killed the electric car?" that I figured out why we have this need for oil.

This is why you pay a higher price. It's because when a alternative is found, it is truly shot down, and hushed up.

Did ya know that the EV could get up too 85 MPH?

Range of 100 miles?

Could you have used this car?

At first, I had my idea of what a electric car was. I NEVER knew that this type of vehicle existed. If it had progressed like the average car did, the range could have been up and around 250 miles.

Makes you wonder if the price your paying for gas could have been cheaper if these cars were still around. :evil: :evil:

just my .02 cents.

Re: Fuel prices....thank a Republican.
 

LOL Well if Kerry had gone in they would have been twice the price. I watched the elections count on yahoo that night in 2004. The Oil and stock market went up and down as the count came in. When Kerry started to climb, so did the Oil Prices. They got much higher than they ever did since under President Bush. The Stock Market went down. But soon as President Bush won, the Oil Prices droped 30.00, and the Stock Market went back up. So yes I thank God Bush went back In. Not only for the Fuel Prices but for many other reasons.

Now if you want to discuss Problem childs, look at every Democrat in office now, Each and Every one of them has Betrayed America, The Troops, and YOU!.

Lost a Job because it moved over
seas or south of the Boarder?

Thank Democrat.

Drugs problems went up in your
City?

Thank a Democrat.

Member of the National Guard and
had to deploy to Iraq?

Thank a Democrat

Lost a Love one, or a Family
Member to terrorist?

Thank a Democrat.

Paying more in Taxes?

Thank a Democrat

Threaten of Nuclear Missiles
attacks from China or North Korea?

Thank a Democrat

I am sorry but, the price of fuel is not just a Republician thing. Last time I checked the other side of the isle was basically igoring the problem too. Hey, they all get campaign contrabutions from big oil.

With high prices we are only looking at a symptom of the problem, not the root of said problem. I personally think this is getting to be no longer a Gov of the people. It seems to me both sides of the isle could really care less about what their voters views are anymore and they could really care less about what is right for this country. They just seem to worry about getting into office or staying in office. That is it and they will give away the country to do it. The writing is on the wall. Wake up and read the message.

I thought the Dems were in charge.........they told me they were as of the first of the year!

Told us they would have it all straightened out in one hundred days......................still waiting.

Just a little addition to this thread.
The bill in the DEMOCRAT controlled congress right now that increases taxes on oil companies and gas is expected to add about 79 cents a gallon by next year....and all the way up to 6 bucks a gallon by 2016.
Fortunately Bush will veto the bill. However who knows what will happen if the democrats keep Congress and then get the Presidency. However, Im not worried, I can afford a gas price increase. Can you?

So I guess the democrats answer for high gas prices is to make them higher. That makes sense.

Right- they just didn't say WHAT planet!


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To quote comedian lewis black (who also speaks the truth about the gov. in my view) "government means democrats and republicans working together, This is how it works, the republican in congress gets up and says I got a really bad idea and then the democrat gets up and says I can make it shittier"

The bottom line is the government has to step in and regulate the big oil companies. Big oil is getting wealthier by the day while the american dollar is shrinking and the poor are getting poorer. The oil companies could certainly afford to cut profits by 20 to 30 percent and still make money.

OPEC needs to be disbanded and Iraq should be selling us oil at dirt cheap prices for getting rid of saddam for them.

The government needs to step up to the plate and tell the enviromentalists "screw you we are going to build as many refineries as possible and we dont care what you think"

Final thought: If a gas station recieves a shipment of fuel on monday and the price of that fuel costs them 2.59 a gallon and they make it up to 2.65 then they normally dont get another shipment til thursday but the price goes up on wednesday morning to(the posted price) 2.72 how can you justify the increase when you havent recieved a delivery?

Thats like the grocery stores selling pork and beans for 99 cents, and then the news comes on and says in 6 months that beans will be in shorter supply, but the grocery store raises the price on prok and beans to 1.29 even though they wont see the price increase for 6 months.

Bottom line both are examples of PRICE GOUGING!

Before OPEC there was the Texas Railroad Commission. They were the model for the formation of OPEC. Was this commission evil, too?

I agree.

On Wednesday morning, where is the extra money coming from to pay for the higher cost for the shipment of oil. Do you really expect the Gas Station owner to take a hit?

That is a wise business practice. Pass the cost of doing business onto the consumer. All businesses do it, except non-profit organizations.

No, just the cost of doing business.

Screwed by both parties
 

While we are debating over whom is responsible for the high oil prices, the democrats or the republicans are laughing all the way to the bank. Until we decide to take back our government then we will continue being screwed by both parties.

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AMEN Saylor....... that is pretty much IT!!!!! As George Carlin once said; "This country was bought and sold 200 years ago, and the $hit they shuffle around every 4 years is just that.....$hit!" Arguing over which one of the crooked "puppets" is better than the other, is like finding out which shark has the harder bite, the White or the Tiger; :shock: does it really matter, they both will eat you regardless. Start DEMANDING our ELECTED officials actually DO what they PROMISE, no matter what their affiliation; Democrat or Republican. Imagine that :idea: . Oh BTW, since the U.S. has invaded, liberated, [or however you want to label] Iraq, where has the oil money gone to? Do the math........ Iraq pumps 1.8 million barrels a day x's $90 a barrel= 162,000,000 A DAY :shock: x's 7 days= 1,134,000,000, x's 30 days= 34,020,000,000, YES that is BILLIONS. Now multiply that figure for a few years, and so on. Now ask yourself; why are we still at "war" ? :roll: Three parter here, ...1..... Is the $ going to people of Iraq?......No........ #2........ Why are we paying for the "war" when a fraction of the oil $ from Iraq could pay for the "liberation"....No. 3..... Bush's family is in what business......oil?.....yeah, oil. I wonder why the gas prices are at peak prices? Now if you cannot figure out that one, maybe you should not be voting anyway. Just "my" opinion though. :wink:

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I agree. What did we expect when their money and power comes from oil. People never relinquish power willingly; it has to be taken from them.

Just wondering how your feeling now that fuel cost have risen 300% since the democrates took over. A little lesson in politics: Demorcrates are primarily for big bussiness. Like bailing out big banks and law firms. And Republicians are the working class people, like Farmers, made in america workers, TRUCKERS. You know the ones how pull up there pants and get the country back on thier feet after Big bussiness has raped us working people for all we have to keep us under thier control. Since the begining of imigration of thousands of now americians the once Libritarian party changed thier name to Democrat in an attempt to get the new uninformed americians to vote their way. They changed the name because of the term democracy so the uninformed would vote by word assocition. I just don't see how anyone can blame the only ones who have stuck to thier beliefs in the constition of the United States of America. You know take care of our own people first. Or ones who had to change thier name to gain control.

I was wondering who dredged up this old thread. It's kinda funny reading it as so much is the same as today just substitute the name Obama for Clinton. The more things change the more they stay the same

Thanks you for the post.

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Seeing as this old thread is still hanging here at the top of the list....
can we start putting the blame on Obama's big oil buddies yet? It was not only OK to do so with Bush but was the "in" thing to do.

I was reading how several European refineries were closed a week and a half ago, that said the "experts" were forecasting that the Eastern US would see gas prices that are equal to California's because of that. The reason, the 3 refineries over there that were closed down supply the east coast of our country. Couple that with Israel inching closer to lighting up Iran and your looking at prices skipping straight to $5 a gallon for gas and lord knows for diesel.