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greg3564 08-30-2007 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
I would agree with you about the quality of the mexican trucks and drivers except for one thing. Mexican trucks have already been coming over here for quite a long time and staying within that 20 mile zone. They havent caused any problems at all. The same arguments you see now were all said before that was allowed. None of those things happened.
From what i have read on "official sites" about this plan. Not only will the mexican drivers and their trucks be held to the same standards and laws as our own trucks. 100% of them will be inspected. Just looking at our own trucking companies on SAFESTAT. its scary how many of our own trucks fail inspections and cause accidents on our roadways. Not too mention the recent study I saw that showed 14% of american drivers would fail hair drug tests. The fact that 100% of the mexican trucks are going to be hard core inspected and their drivers looked at, it just might turn out that those mexican trucks might be safer than our own.

Do you know how many inspectors would be required to inspect 100 percent? Hundreds at each border crossing. That's not going to happen. Again here's a quote from the OIG about that.

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“Specifically, we observed hundreds of vehicles entering the United States at the Laredo crossing each day. FMCSA inspectors selected vehicles for inspection from the line of trucks waiting to cross the border. However, once an inspector selected a vehicle and diverted it for an inspection, no FMCSA personnel remained at the screening point to monitor carrier traffic.”

greg3564 08-30-2007 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
How is Mexico part of NAFTA?? They are in Central America not North America, I don't see no "C" in that NAFTA. North America only compromises of us and Canada and always has.

Know your facts.


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The North American Free Trade Agreement is the trade bloc in North America created by the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and its two supplements, the North American Agreement on Environmental Cooperation (NAAEC) and The North American Agreement on Labor Cooperation (NAALC), whose members are Canada, Mexico, and the United States. It came into effect on 1 January 1994.

gordoUSA 08-30-2007 10:19 PM

I doubt the Mexicans are going to be looked at closely, at least not for long. Maybe a little "dog and pony show" for the media and concerned citizens.
The big winners will be the companies employing the Mexicans and the big box stores with considerbly less cost in shipping. But don't think they are going to lower their prices to you. They will not. You will probably be paying more, same as always. Corporate profits and CEO pay are paramount.
Border security is so lax now, wait till the interest dies down. Then who knows what all will be shipped in. Drugs for certain, human cargo, weapons, who knows because no one is going to check.
Question is, are the Mexican companies going to be required to carry American liability insurance? When one of the Mexican trucks slaughters a family of 4 on the highway, who is going to pay? Will the driver and/or company be held to the same accountability standards as some unfortunate American drivers and companies have, or simply be allowed to flee back to Mexico?
Time will tell on the issue, but it doesn't bode well for the average American trying to make their living or get a start in a difficult industry.

PackRatTDI 08-30-2007 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
How is Mexico part of NAFTA?? They are in Central America not North America, I don't see no "C" in that NAFTA. North America only compromises of us and Canada and always has.

Central and North American are divided at the Mexican border with Guatemala and Belize. Perhaps you should have paid more attention in your World Geography class. ;)

And since when is Jimmy "my daddy was a crook" Hoffa's and the Teamsters Union's opinion the "will of the people">

Mr. Ford95 08-30-2007 11:01 PM

Well then sorry guys, my Geography teacher was wrong then. Was always taught that Mexico was part of Central America. :oops: 8) Guess that's what you get when your school system pays the lowest of the state and pretty much the nation, the bottom of the barrel teachers who never went to college. Then again some of my college professors were airheads......

grizz 08-30-2007 11:43 PM

the big companies do not wave the american flag they wave the almighty dollar

Cluggy619 08-31-2007 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by grizz
the big companies do not wave the american flag they wave the almighty dollar

"In God We Trust, all others pay cash" We are one nation under the dollar.....boo hoo hoo.

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Stop your whining about the Mexicans coming. You all knew they were coming. If you don't like it, go find another career, before they take that one too.

Welcome, my Mexican brothers. And Sheepdancer, you should be happy....I understand you know alittle spanish.....recruiting should be easy. Think "BIG BONUS>>>STOCK OPTIONS".

Part Time Dweller 08-31-2007 12:44 AM

Re: The Will of the People, Yada, Yada
 
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Originally Posted by Sealord
It's not about Bush, think NAFTA and former President Clinton. He's the one who signed off on NAFTA. Maybe the Mexican grown fruit and vegetables will be cheaper now. Some Cali growers have already moved south. BOL

Actually. it wasn't Bill....................:lol:

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Fredog 08-31-2007 12:48 AM

Re: The Will of the People, Yada, Yada
 
[quote="Part Time Dweller"]
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Originally Posted by Sealord
It's not about Bush, think NAFTA and former President Clinton. He's the one who signed off on NAFTA. Maybe the Mexican grown fruit and vegetables will be cheaper now. Some Cali growers have already moved south. BOL

Actually. it wasn't Bill....................:lol:

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Please dont confuse us with the facts

Part Time Dweller 08-31-2007 12:50 AM

Sorry. :oops: I forgot. :lol:


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