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GOODIE2SHOES 10-11-2006 02:03 AM

CONCEALED WEAPON
 
i've been all over http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov website. where does it say i can't carry a concealed weapon?

DesertRat 10-11-2006 03:00 AM

there is nothing in the FMSCA regs prohibiting it. But, do you know the pertanent gun laws in all 48 states? DO you know the legal and correct way to carry a firearm in all 48 states? Do you know all of the municipal ordinances regarding firearms that supercede state law? If not, leave the gun at home.

GOODIE2SHOES 10-11-2006 03:04 AM

please. living by the rules is not a problem. just learn the rules.

DesertRat 10-11-2006 03:08 AM

If you knew the rules, you'd know how hard living with them can be. As one example, do you know the laws for Chicago? If you take a firearm into Chicago, you are breaking the law. concealed, exposed, locked in a case... doesn't matter, in Chicago firearms are illegal, end of story. So how does one legally carry a weapon into places where you cannot legally carry a weapon? But, if you really want to know the laws regarding this, check out the NRA's web site, they have a pretty comprehensive list of laws by state and municipality.

Sealord 10-11-2006 03:12 AM

CONCEALED WEAPON
 
GOODIE2SHOES - By "concealed weapon" do you mean a firearm, or a tire thumper hidden on your person. As far as Chicago, do they mean a pistol or a long arm? BOL

GOODIE2SHOES 10-11-2006 03:18 AM

firearm.

DesertRat 10-11-2006 03:21 AM

In Chicago they mean ALL firearms. Toughest gun law in the country. How they enforce it, I have no idea, but I understand the penalties are heavy if you get caught. Funny thing though, that law doesn't seem to have reduced there crime rate one bit. Funny thing about criminals, they don't follow laws.

shaley06 10-11-2006 04:23 AM

Gun Laws
 
Your right I trap shoot and there are states it takes alot to get a gun into. And it is a 12 gauge shot gun and to go to the grand to shoot we would need tons of permits.

GOODIE2SHOES 10-11-2006 04:30 AM

hey, shaley06, move to michigan. we are a "shall issue" state. if you have a clean record, you get the permit.

shaley06 10-11-2006 04:46 AM

Guns
 
Yea I've been to Michigan state shoot nice place Thanks. I'm in Ohio

Snowman7 10-11-2006 05:02 AM

In addition alot of employer policies prohibit firearms and most of the shippers and recievers.

flatbedder 10-11-2006 05:13 AM

If you were not a driver would you take a gun to a "normal job" with you? Im not sure why people feel the need to carry a gun on the truck with them :roll:

shaley06 10-11-2006 05:19 AM

Guns
 
Well as a matter of fact I do keep mine in the trunk once in awhile if I'm gonna shoot with in the next day or so LOL. But no normally you wouldn't keep a gun around if going to work. GOOD POINT.

Sheepdancer 10-11-2006 05:28 AM

Exactly....although I do have a concealed carry permit. I am not allowed to bring it to work. Corporate doesnt allow any firearms on property. Im not going to risk my job for that. But it does become a pain when I want to go shoot after work being that the gun club is right near work and I have to go all the way home after work to get my guns.

shaley06 10-11-2006 05:38 AM

Guns
 
AMEN I know that feeling was in TN for 3 weeks not one place to go shoot. I can't believe it. Then went back down to MEMPHIS nope no place to shoot Only thing I know I will miss by driving is shooting 5 days a week.

yeti 10-11-2006 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by GOODIE2SHOES
hey, shaley06, move to michigan. we are a "shall issue" state. if you have a clean record, you get the permit.



Permit, bah, I don't need no permit to carry concealed. :D

BobMack 10-11-2006 12:33 PM

Re: Guns
 

Originally Posted by shaley06
But no normally you wouldn't keep a gun around if going to work. GOOD POINT.

Yea you don't. But trucking isn't a normal job. Trucking may sometimes require you to park over night in a area you don't know it's safe or not. IMO, some of the gun regulations sucks. The criminal's don't obey by the law, which gives them the upper hand. These days and times, it's not safe out their. I do have a question on this subject, how often does the cab of your truck get searched? I drove for 2 years back in 85 and never had the truck searched. I kept a gun then, hidden inside the cab of the truck, never got caught. Never had any problems either. Really never needed it. I'm thinking about going back on the road next year. And was planning to bring a small caliber gun. Since 9/11, has things changed? Are you subjected to get your cab searched? If your not allowed to carry a gun, can you carry something like mace, or pepper spray, or even a stun gun or taser?

yoopr 10-11-2006 12:46 PM

This Thread, as the Other THREE on Carry, is on it's last legs.

dk132 10-11-2006 12:56 PM

This is a real issue and sholud not be edited . I do not travel with out protection Truck Car Van what ever to many nuts.

stevedb28 10-11-2006 01:04 PM

All I can tell you is it is a felony to cross the state line in which the gun is registered in. That law is most likely due to drug running, but is still applicable in trucking. Before anyone asks I dont know what you do with a gun when you are moving. As far as stun guns and tasers go, that probably more regulated by state laws rather than a universal federal law.

terrylamar 10-11-2006 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by stevedb28
All I can tell you is it is a felony to cross the state line in which the gun is registered in. That law is most likely due to drug running, but is still applicable in trucking. Before anyone asks I dont know what you do with a gun when you are moving. As far as stun guns and tasers go, that probably more regulated by state laws rather than a universal federal law.

Most states do not have registration of firearms. It is not a felony to cross state lines with a firearm.

dk132 10-11-2006 01:35 PM

Yes you can carry a gun across any state line. Maybe not into some city's but defiantly across state line. It is not a felony. And to add to that their is a legal way and an illegal way. A loaded hand gun would definatly be illegal. Each state has different laws. Most maybe all employers forbid it as with any job besides cops.

palidian 10-11-2006 02:01 PM

Federal law protects gun owners, if you are legal to own in the state you?re from and the state you?re headed to, and the weapon in unloaded and in a locked container, then you are protected. However they will need a warrant anyways.

stevedb28 10-11-2006 02:02 PM

I misread what the law said but, they can make your life extremely difficult if they want to and still might charge you with a crime for crossing a state line with a firearm heres a link if you think you arent subject to a serious tongue lashing. I knew of something like this when I left the Army and was going back home. They made me ship my weapons in my goods and couldnt drive with them. Well, they didnt make me but they said DO NOT DO IT. I wondered why because I had my concealed weapon permit and all the legal documentation. They said it doesnt matter, dont cross the state lines with a weapon.
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20050703.htm

yoopr 10-11-2006 02:22 PM

This is a real issue and sholud not be edited

Well since there have been MANY discussions on Here about this and the Fact that there are TWO ongoing Threads about this and the Author of this Thread was either too lazy or didn't have the Know How to Find them and Posted about this subject anyway it IS on it's last legs.
And WHY did you post this on "What about This Trucking Company"?

stevedb28 10-11-2006 02:26 PM

you have a good point yoopr

dk132 10-11-2006 02:34 PM

And WHY did you post this on "What about This Trucking Company

Yes I woundered that also. strange

flatbedder 10-11-2006 03:28 PM

I guess this could be argued back and forth forever about the laws, but just let these guys carry and when they finally get caught they will realize it has cost them a job and will probly not look too good for their future career-wise.

yoopr 10-11-2006 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by flatbedder
I guess this could be argued back and forth forever about the laws, but just let these guys carry and when they finally get caught they will realize it has cost them a job and will probly not look too good for their future career-wise.

It's been argued on here forever on other posts and You're right. I'm Definitely against Gun Control but when it comes to carrying while driving Trucks it's a No Brainer. Just listen to the CB late at night. I wouldn't want these guys carrying a weapon.

terrylamar 10-11-2006 04:17 PM

[quote="yoopr It's been argued on here forever on other posts and You're right. I'm Definitely against Gun Control but when it comes to carrying while driving Trucks it's a No Brainer. Just listen to the CB late at night. I wouldn't want these guys carrying a weapon.[/quote]

Talk, whether on the CB or behind the keyboard is cheap. Most people will run their mouth (or fingers) without too much thought behind it. How many of these late night CBers actually follow up on what the say, same with the Internet. As far as carrying a weapon, it is an individual decision. If you can't handle it, don't carry. The was I look at it is that every responsible citizen should carry in defense of your country on down to your family and fellow man. The Supreme Court has ruled that law enforcement has no responsibility to protect an individual. That leaves it to an individual to protect himself. My belief in the right to carry has nothing to do with trucks, it is a right that should be exercised at all times. Otherwise, small chance that it may be, you will end up as a statistic and an example for some of us as to why we should carry.

yoopr 10-11-2006 04:57 PM

if you knew anything about me and my background you wouldn't say that but anyway-We've beat this Horse a Hundred times on this forum.

terrylamar 10-11-2006 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by yoopr
if you knew anything about me and my background you wouldn't say that but anyway-We've beat this Horse a Hundred times on this forum.

My comments were not directed towards you, just your comment about listening to people on the CB and if we really wanted them to carry. I have only been here a short while, I notice that we beat quite a few horses hundreds of times. New people come on board and they want to discuss what is important to them. Nothing wrong with that.

yoopr 10-11-2006 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by terrylamar

Originally Posted by yoopr
if you knew anything about me and my background you wouldn't say that but anyway-We've beat this Horse a Hundred times on this forum.

My comments were not directed towards you, just your comment about listening to people on the CB and if we really wanted them to carry. I have only been here a short while, I notice that we beat quite a few horses hundreds of times. New people come on board and they want to discuss what is important to them. Nothing wrong with that.

No there is nothing wrong but if you See the Search Feature at the Top of the Forum and type in the topic that we're talking about now you'll see that we've covered the Subject pretty much in it's Entirety.

terrylamar 10-11-2006 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by yoopr

Originally Posted by terrylamar

Originally Posted by yoopr
if you knew anything about me and my background you wouldn't say that but anyway-We've beat this Horse a Hundred times on this forum.

My comments were not directed towards you, just your comment about listening to people on the CB and if we really wanted them to carry. I have only been here a short while, I notice that we beat quite a few horses hundreds of times. New people come on board and they want to discuss what is important to them. Nothing wrong with that.

No there is nothing wrong but if you See the Search Feature at the Top of the Forum and type in the topic that we're talking about now you'll see that we've covered the Subject pretty much in it's Entirety.

My point is that many subjects have been covered in their entirety, yet they pop up all the time. It's much like reading the news paper, we can read week old copies and we really will be pretty much up to date. I want to read the fresh news of the day, even if it has already been covered. The Search function is not real flexable on here. If you type "Austin Community College" you will get every use of the word "Austin," "Community" and "College." Somewhere in there you will find "Austin Community College." If you care to read every single post, line by line, post by post, for several years.

BobMack 10-12-2006 10:42 AM

I Could'nt have said it any better Terry.

yoopr 10-12-2006 11:36 AM

Look, SEARCH, the Old Posts. EVERYTHING has been said.
I Know you probably think you're bringing up Something we all haven't heard before. You haven't.

terrylamar 10-12-2006 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by yoopr
Look, SEARCH, the Old Posts. EVERYTHING has been said.
I Know you probably think you're bringing up Something we all haven't heard before. You haven't.

Well, I didn't start any of these topics. Whoever did must not have searched previous related topics or they did not find the answers to their questions. You are telling the wrong person to use the search function, I do on all topics I start.

BobMack 10-12-2006 11:55 AM

[quote=terrylamar]

Originally Posted by "yoopr It's been argued on here forever on other posts and You're right. I'm Definitely against Gun Control but when it comes to carrying while driving Trucks it's a No Brainer. Just listen to the CB late at night. I wouldn't want these guys carrying a weapon.[/quote

Talk, whether on the CB or behind the keyboard is cheap. Most people will run their mouth (or fingers) without too much thought behind it. How many of these late night CBers actually follow up on what the say, same with the Internet. As far as carrying a weapon, it is an individual decision. If you can't handle it, don't carry. The was I look at it is that every responsible citizen should carry in defense of your country on down to your family and fellow man. The Supreme Court has ruled that law enforcement has no responsibility to protect an individual. That leaves it to an individual to protect himself. My belief in the right to carry has nothing to do with trucks, it is a right that should be exercised at all times. Otherwise, small chance that it may be, you will end up as a statistic and an example for some of us as to why we should carry.

This is what I meant by "I could'nt had said it any better Terry."

terrylamar 10-12-2006 12:00 PM

Hey BobMack I understood what you were saying, I'm only commenting on Yooper's post, not yours.

yoopr 10-12-2006 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by terrylamar

Originally Posted by yoopr
Look, SEARCH, the Old Posts. EVERYTHING has been said.
I Know you probably think you're bringing up Something we all haven't heard before. You haven't.

Well, I didn't start any of these topics. Whoever did must not have searched previous related topics or they did not find the answers to their questions. You are telling the wrong person to use the search function, I do on all topics I start.

I agree-It wasn't directed towards you. Sorry if you got that impression
Maybe the original poster was a Hit and Run :P


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