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shaley06 10-13-2006 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by yeti

Originally Posted by GOODIE2SHOES
hey, shaley06, move to michigan. we are a "shall issue" state. if you have a clean record, you get the permit.



Permit, bah, I don't need no permit to carry concealed. :D

I have conceal carry but i mostly shoot ATA shoots.

palidian 10-13-2006 06:15 PM

While your link is very informative, however it applies to selling a weapon, not caring a weapon. In addition that law has never been tested in court. The constitution is quite clear; the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. As for the Supreme Court says.
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactShe...ad.aspx?id=177



Originally Posted by stevedb28
I misread what the law said but, they can make your life extremely difficult if they want to and still might charge you with a crime for crossing a state line with a firearm heres a link if you think you arent subject to a serious tongue lashing. I knew of something like this when I left the Army and was going back home. They made me ship my weapons in my goods and couldnt drive with them. Well, they didnt make me but they said DO NOT DO IT. I wondered why because I had my concealed weapon permit and all the legal documentation. They said it doesnt matter, dont cross the state lines with a weapon.
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20050703.htm


kenworth75 10-18-2006 12:45 PM

If one holds a Federal Firearms permit, who is to tell that driver that they cant? The Company they work for cant, but what the company doesnt know doesnt hurt them.
Just so people know, Federal permits/laws supercede all state and county, and city laws. Please do correct me if i am wrong.

Yanke_driver 10-18-2006 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by kenworth75
If one holds a Federal Firearms permit, who is to tell that driver that they cant? The Company they work for cant, but what the company doesnt know doesnt hurt them.
Just so people know, Federal permits/laws supercede all state and county, and city laws. Please do correct me if i am wrong.

I'm pretty sure any company out there can make a no firearms policy and not get in any trouble. A private company can make any policy they want (to an extent of course!) and thier employees will have to follow it! You don't like the company policies...find another company to work for.

Just my $0.02

dk132 10-18-2006 02:26 PM

Can you even own a gun in Canada? Not including the criminals :roll:

Windwalker 10-18-2006 02:53 PM

My own thoughts on "gun control" are a steady hand, and a good aim.

But, the "CB RAMBO's" on the CB don't always stop with words over the mic. I know of one ocassion when CB RAMBO pulled his truck off behind another truck, and put two pieces of 9MM lead into another driver.

You want to put guns in the hands of drivers? GREAT... Right after you find a way to keep them out of those who will use them without proper disgration, like to end an arguement. If you are not able to determine who will and who won't, then NO GUNS IN TRUCKS.

Yanke_driver 10-18-2006 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by dk132
Can you even own a gun in Canada? Not including the criminals :roll:

umm...since I hunt and own 8 firearms, i'd say you can. Even if I couldn't own a firearm, that has nothing to do with the fact that a company policy is a company policy. If a company tells it's drivers no guns in the trucks it means NO GUNS IN THE TRUCKS! There is no federal firearms permit in the US or Canada that would or could exclude an employee from a company's corporate policy.

dk132 10-18-2006 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Yanke_driver

Originally Posted by dk132
Can you even own a gun in Canada? Not including the criminals :roll:

umm...since I hunt and own 8 firearms, i'd say you can. Even if I couldn't own a firearm, that has nothing to do with the fact that a company policy is a company policy. If a company tells it's drivers no guns in the trucks it means NO GUNS IN THE TRUCKS! There is no federal firearms permit in the US or Canada that would or could exclude an employee from a company's corporate policy.

:roll: :roll: Ok Ok you got me. But we all know the gun laws in Canada are pretty lame. They know you have them and they don't like it do they? How much longer do you think you'll own those "8 guns" Got any hand guns? I didn't think so.

Yanke_driver 10-18-2006 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by dk132
:roll: :roll: Ok Ok you got me. But we all know the gun laws in Canada are pretty lame. They know you have them and they don't like it do they? How much longer do you think you'll own those "8 guns" Got any hand guns? I didn't think so.

You live in Texas...what could you possibly know about Canadian gun laws?? No, I don't own any handguns and again, what does this have to do with my original post??? HAVING A FEDERAL GUN PERMIT DOES NOT GIVE SOMEONE THE RIGHT TO HAVE A GUN IN A TRUCK IF THE COMPANY SAYS NO!!

yoopr 10-18-2006 04:13 PM

I know of one ocassion when CB RAMBO pulled his truck off behind another truck, and put two pieces of 9MM lead into another driver.

Which proved my point on what I said on this Endless Thread many moons ago

dk132 10-19-2006 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by Yanke_driver

Originally Posted by dk132
:roll: :roll: Ok Ok you got me. But we all know the gun laws in Canada are pretty lame. They know you have them and they don't like it do they? How much longer do you think you'll own those "8 guns" Got any hand guns? I didn't think so.

You live in Texas...what could you possibly know about Canadian gun laws?? No, I don't own any handguns and again, what does this have to do with my original post??? HAVING A FEDERAL GUN PERMIT DOES NOT GIVE SOMEONE THE RIGHT TO HAVE A GUN IN A TRUCK IF THE COMPANY SAYS NO!!

I could say the same to you. You live in Canada what could you possibly know about OUR federal gun laws :roll: My point is you live in a country that has very strict gun laws and I'm not surprised that you are for gun control. I understand most maybe all company's forbid you to carry a concealed weapon but it seems like quite a few people do it anyway. I'm not going to pretend I know what the federal gun law states exactly. I do know you live in another country and you are telling me what the laws are in my country. :roll: We could beat this dead horse all day.

yoopr 10-19-2006 05:03 AM

I'm not surprised that you are for gun control

Excuse me-You better Re-Read his Post-He has 8 Firearms-I'd hardly put him in the Category of Pro Gun Control.

dk132 10-19-2006 01:25 PM

I guess I started something here. Just because someone owns 8 long guns doesn't mean they are not pro hand gun control. Sounded like he was bitchin about drivers carrying guns maybe not. My mistake. I am just surprised to read a guys post that lives in Canada making comments about drivers carrying HAND GUNS in USA in their trucks when you cant even OWN a HAND GUN in the country that he resides in. Just sounded odd Go back and read I commented about owning guns in canada. Not the federal laws . I should of specified hand guns. ( :lol: Has this been cover before)

yoopr 10-19-2006 02:06 PM

when you cant even OWN a HAND GUN in the country that he resides in.

You better check on Canadian Gun Laws because that's not the Truth.

dk132 10-19-2006 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by yoopr
when you cant even OWN a HAND GUN in the country that he resides in.

You better check on Canadian Gun Laws because that's not the Truth.

Hows this --This point needs to be emphasized: there is no Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Canada. Your RKBA rights cease the moment you step foot across the border.

OverTheRoad 10-19-2006 02:31 PM

It sure is nice to be back in Arizona and driving a truck locally..... I left this morning with my 9mm Browning Hi-Power in my lunch box. :):)
After work I stopped by one of the local shooting ranges and knocked a few rounds into a silhouette.
By the way I have my AZ concealed permit and the trucking company I work for doesn't mind legally carried firearms in the trucks.

dk132 10-19-2006 02:39 PM

God Bless America 8)

yoopr 10-19-2006 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by dk132

Originally Posted by yoopr
when you cant even OWN a HAND GUN in the country that he resides in.

You better check on Canadian Gun Laws because that's not the Truth.

Hows this --This point needs to be emphasized: there is no Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Canada. Your RKBA rights cease the moment you step foot across the border.

Now you've just changed the Subject

when you cant even OWN a HAND GUN in the country that he resides in.

This is what you said

dk132 10-19-2006 03:02 PM

No I did not change the subject. And I'm not quoting any laws. Canadian hand gun laws are pretty much the same as New york City hand gun laws. Try to get a permit. From what I herd / read it is next to impossible. I don't have a need to look it up. Just to prove something? I'm not trying to prove anything here. Why don't you move to Canada and try to own a hand gun. Let me know how it works out. Have you ever been to Canada. They have signs when you enter stating "hand guns are prohibited "

If you don't have RKBA what do you have? NO GUN

If you know so much about gun laws in Canada why cant you just explain it to me. Tell me what is says. Quit beating around the bush. If you know it then say it .

Useless 10-19-2006 03:14 PM

I have a concealed weapon that can not be found during a search (unless I want it to be discovered), and no one, including the BATF, DOT, police, nor state laws, nor local ordinances can control.

I'm not going to tell you exactly what it is; but if you ever have lunch at a truck stop and indulged in their left-over fried chicken, mixed with coffee, and a few hard boiled eggs, you will understand that my weapon is more lethal than any pistol or rifle.

:D

Yanke_driver 10-19-2006 03:28 PM

O.K. Lets get something straight here. Not once did I say I was pro gun control. NOT ONCE!! Long guns or Handguns...I think that anyone should have the right to own one, including myself. You know if I really wanted too, I could apply for my federal restricted firearm permit(and be approved for it because I have no prior convictions for anything) and go out and buy a handgun. Why don't I? I have no use for one, so dk132... you are mistaken in your thinking that we can't own handguns. I'm going to make this as simple as I can for you...I wasn't questioning your laws or your 2nd amendment rights...all I was stating is that your right to bear arms means squat to a company that doesn't want you to posess a firearm, long gun or handgun on or in their property. I have been to shippers and recievers in quite a few states already and have seen the signs hanging on the wall right outside the door "NO FIREARMS ON THESE PREMESIS" Do you think that your 2nd amendment right protects those employees if they show up to work packing? I don't think so.

I don't know if i'm sending the wrong message here...but I'm not singing the praises of gun control, nor am I blasting your right to bear arms, you guys down there are lucky that you have that right. I'll shut up now because dk132, you don't understand what I'm trying to say here.

dk132 10-19-2006 03:48 PM

I think what I posted has gone horably wrong. Im done ! I dont care about canada laws . I was NOT being literal with most of what I said . I do know canada gun laws are stiff. End of story ( I hope)

yoopr 10-19-2006 04:13 PM

You're right DK-Gun laws in Canada ARE very tough

Windwalker 10-19-2006 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Useless
I have a concealed weapon that can not be found during a search (unless I want it to be discovered), and no one, including the BATF, DOT, police, nor state laws, nor local ordinances can control.

I'm not going to tell you exactly what it is; but if you ever have lunch at a truck stop and indulged in their left-over fried chicken, mixed with coffee, and a few hard boiled eggs, you will understand that my weapon is more lethal than any pistol or rifle.

:D

My oldest son uses "O'GRADY" chips and a bottle of coke. When he does that, he needs to be inducted into the ORDER OF THE BLUE FLAME.

yoopr 10-20-2006 02:32 AM

Just get yourself a few MRE's and make yourself up a MRE Bomb.

Mrs.Bryan 02-08-2007 06:04 PM

:lol: @ the rest of these Posts, especially the last few.
As for me, a Gun has saved my Life and the Lives of my Family a Total of 5 Times, and I would NEVER consider going Unarmed (Unless otherwise Required by some Law or another), Ever again.

carterbeauford 02-14-2007 04:59 AM

more laws than you ever wanted to read:

packing.org
handgunlaw.us
nraila.org/GunLaws


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