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#21
Mr. Ford95 , 10-03-2007 08:39 AM
04-21-2019And the verdict is:
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Captain Saunders, Safety Officer, asked me to thank you for and respond to your email dated October 2, 2007.
I discussed your question with our Motor Carrier Supervisor, there is no such law as described in your email. You may contact First Sergeant Williamson if you have further questions.
Thank you for contacting the Safety Division.
Sergeant Evans
Virginia Department of State Police
Safety Division - Motor Vehicle Inspection
7700 Midlothain Turnpike
Richmond, VA 23235
Seems what I was told turned out to be the same as CB talk except I was told face to face by other drivers.Captain Saunders, Safety Officer, asked me to thank you for and respond to your email dated October 2, 2007.
I discussed your question with our Motor Carrier Supervisor, there is no such law as described in your email. You may contact First Sergeant Williamson if you have further questions.
Thank you for contacting the Safety Division.
Sergeant Evans
Virginia Department of State Police
Safety Division - Motor Vehicle Inspection
7700 Midlothain Turnpike
Richmond, VA 23235
#22
countryhorseman , 10-06-2007 02:14 AM
TMC has a policy regarding the use of binders:
If your feet are on the ground, you may use eithe snap or rachet binders when using chains.
If for whatever reason, your feet are on the trailer, ONLY rachet binders may be used.
This was developed do many accidents from snap binders snapping back and causing injuries while on a trailer.
The FMCSA has a manual which details the basics of load securement.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul.../cs-policy.htm
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul...vehicle/cs.htm
There are many pictures showing the use of snap binders (boomers), especially in the coil and steel sections. On a couple, you can see the TMC trailer identifiers. The FMCSA had spent allot of time researching different companies procedures. Also, review accident data on how well loads stayed on the trailer after the accident. They had found the TMC had a lower incedence of cargo coming loose and/or off the trailer, even in roll overs. Many of the protocols that were adopted for the FMCSA manual, are straight out of the TMC manual.
If your feet are on the ground, you may use eithe snap or rachet binders when using chains.
If for whatever reason, your feet are on the trailer, ONLY rachet binders may be used.
This was developed do many accidents from snap binders snapping back and causing injuries while on a trailer.
The FMCSA has a manual which details the basics of load securement.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul.../cs-policy.htm
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul...vehicle/cs.htm
There are many pictures showing the use of snap binders (boomers), especially in the coil and steel sections. On a couple, you can see the TMC trailer identifiers. The FMCSA had spent allot of time researching different companies procedures. Also, review accident data on how well loads stayed on the trailer after the accident. They had found the TMC had a lower incedence of cargo coming loose and/or off the trailer, even in roll overs. Many of the protocols that were adopted for the FMCSA manual, are straight out of the TMC manual.
#23
Mr. Ford95 , 10-06-2007 02:33 AM
You mean you can't use snap binders while on the trailer countryhorse?? Smart move, don't want to be tossed off the trailer and onto your head by a stupid binder that flipped back on you when using a ratchet binder would have been safer.
#24
countryhorseman , 10-06-2007 03:12 AM
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Maybe you should go back and read what I posted! That is what I said, ratchet binders only when standing on the trailer.Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
You mean you can't use snap binders while on the trailer countryhorse?? Smart move, don't want to be tossed off the trailer and onto your head by a stupid binder that flipped back on you when using a ratchet binder would have been safer.
What exactly was your point?
Never mind, I see my error, it has been corrected.
