SHOCKED AND APPALLED!

[Rookie McRookerson]

I have only been OTR for a couple of months. For several months before getting my CDL I spent many nights on CAD. I read about all the truckers who complained about being treated like dirt, second class people from third world countries, and slave labor. They shouted, we're professionals and demand to be treated as professionals.

Now that I am on the road I have seen more pee bottles along the side of the road than I can count. I am disgusted every time I see one. Yesterday, while driving through eastern Oregon, I counted 5 within a couple mile stretch of Highway 97.

I just don't understand it. Why do so many truckers feel justified to throw their nasty piss bottles out their windows for some other poor SOB to have to pick up. You have to dump your garbage when fueling or at a rest areas. Why not put them in your trash and dispose of them properly!

In my humble opinion, its drivers like these, in part, who are giving the industry a bad reputation.

Come on drivers. Do the right thing. Take care of your own bodily waste. With hepetitis and HIV so common in body fluids, nobody wants to pick up your nasty waste.

[Ridge Runner]

I for one would like to see this treated just like a DUI. First time lose the CDL for a year. Second time, Life time loss of CDL. I'm with you. There is NO EXCUSE for doing this.

[Twilight Flyer]

Even worse when the mowers catch one lying off in the weeds.

[Mr. Ford95]

Or worse yet, team drivers that slipseat with other teams. Like to leave little surprises in tucked behind the bunk for the next team. Pee cups with no lids, little baggies of what you would think of as brownies but with a special ingredient. Totally nasty, matresses would be soaked in urine from the pee cups and have to be thrown out while the whole cab stunk to high heaven. :evil:

[Rookie McRookerson]

Or worse yet, team drivers that slipseat with other teams. Like to leave little surprises in tucked behind the bunk for the next team. Pee cups with no lids, little baggies of what you would think of as brownies but with a special ingredient. Totally nasty, matresses would be soaked in urine from the pee cups and have to be thrown out while the whole cab stunk to high heaven. :evil:

Now that's just wrong on so many levels I can't even begin to respond.

[terrylamar]

I have only been OTR for a couple of months. For several months before getting my CDL I spent many nights on CAD. I read about all the truckers who complained about being treated like dirt, second class people from third world countries, and slave labor. They shouted, we're professionals and demand to be treated as professionals.

Now that I am on the road I have seen more pee bottles along the side of the road than I can count. I am disgusted every time I see one. Yesterday, while driving through eastern Oregon, I counted 5 within a couple mile stretch of Highway 97.

I just don't understand it. Why do so many truckers feel justified to throw their nasty piss bottles out their windows for some other poor SOB to have to pick up. You have to dump your garbage when fueling or at a rest areas. Why not put them in your trash and dispose of them properly!

In my humble opinion, its drivers like these, in part, who are giving the industry a bad reputation.

Come on drivers. Do the right thing. Take care of your own bodily waste. With hepetitis and HIV so common in body fluids, nobody wants to pick up your nasty waste.

And some of these old timers, you know the professional truck drivers, call us new guys, newbies, steering wheel holders. Maybe I'm just different, I'm a new old guy. I like to think I am more professional than 95% of the drivers out there. Disclaimer: This was not directed at anyone on CAD, you are all professional drivers, I look up to each and every one.

[yoopr]

I have only been OTR for a couple of months. For several months before getting my CDL I spent many nights on CAD. I read about all the truckers who complained about being treated like dirt, second class people from third world countries, and slave labor. They shouted, we're professionals and demand to be treated as professionals.

Now that I am on the road I have seen more pee bottles along the side of the road than I can count. I am disgusted every time I see one. Yesterday, while driving through eastern Oregon, I counted 5 within a couple mile stretch of Highway 97.

I just don't understand it. Why do so many truckers feel justified to throw their nasty piss bottles out their windows for some other poor SOB to have to pick up. You have to dump your garbage when fueling or at a rest areas. Why not put them in your trash and dispose of them properly!

In my humble opinion, its drivers like these, in part, who are giving the industry a bad reputation.

Come on drivers. Do the right thing. Take care of your own bodily waste. With hepetitis and HIV so common in body fluids, nobody wants to pick up your nasty waste.

Slobs at Home they become slobs on the Road

[Uturn2001]

I know it happens, but I do not, nor do I ever hope to, understand it.

I was raised to respect yourself and to respect others. Part of this is to treat your property with care, and to treat other people's property even better.

When it comes to truck driving this means:

Do not throw or leave trash of any kind anywhere but in a trash can.

When you turn in a truck you do so clean and 100% ready for the next driver.

[Snowman7]

The industry has brought this situation on itself. When they spend 25 years cutting pay and treating drivers like garbage they cannot attract people who will act professionally. People tend to act in a way that is expected of them by their authority figures. Some people who throw piss bottles out the window would not do this if they were driving for a respectable company that paid them well, and would fire them for such an action. If it were a job that was hard to get and they were afraid of losing, that held them accountable to higher standards, they would look at themselves differently and think twice about it. When they are treated like garbage and made to feel replaceable they just dont care. Then potential respectable, proffessional people entering this industry are appalled and dont want to be associated with that crowd and image and the cycle snowballs. Some of these drivers are just plain pigs. Some can be changed, but the industry has to return to good pay, benefits and proffessional treatment to improve the talent pool. Until then they will "get what they paid for".

[jiptwoo]

I am sorry but one's company or pay has nothing to do with a persons character. Character- how a person acts when they think no one is watching. Lastly; wherever you go; there you are!

[Rev.Vassago]

I am sorry but one's company or pay has nothing to do with a persons character.

Apparently, you've never heard the adage "You get what you pay for".

[Snowman7]

I agree and disagree. My point is it has to do with what type of character they can attract. As I stated some of these drivers are pigs and would have to be weeded out. Others could be changed if they're environment changed. Monkey see monkey do. I work for UPS and this behavior would not be tolerated by the company OR my fellow employees. UPS cares greatly about its image and we all know it and are proud of it. And its a good job that a driver wouldnt want to lose over a piss bottle. And before you say we all drive daycabs both UPS and UPS Freight have sleeper teams. I still say alot of people, not all, act the way they are expected to act, and are influenced by the people around them. The trucking companies are getting what they pay for, the bottom of the barrel. Improve the reputation, improve the image, improve the compensation, improve the treatment, and improve the expectations, and you will improve the talent pool and the work force. And the undesireables will have to get with the program or be eliminated.

[ben45750]

Why do so many truckers feel justified to throw their nasty piss bottles out their windows for some other poor SOB to have to pick up.

How do you know that every piss bottle came from a trucker??

[silvan]

I for one would like to see this treated just like a DUI. First time lose the CDL for a year. Second time, Life time loss of CDL. I'm with you. There is NO EXCUSE for doing this.

They could probably do DNA tests or something.

I agree. I piss in bottles all the time, but I have never once deposited one of these on the side of the road.

[illegalerror]

Now that I am on the road I have seen more pee bottles along the side of the road than I can count. I am disgusted every time I see one. Yesterday, while driving through eastern Oregon, I counted 5 within a couple mile stretch of Highway 97.
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he's right look at this link !!

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/rant/pee.html

[Graymist]

I absolutely can't fathom what's so difficult about simply pulling over safely by the shoulder of the highway, walking 20-30 feet out into the bushes, & "watering the plants" in a discreet manner !!! How much time does that take...maybe 5 minutes ? How it's advisable to use pee-bottles while driving, & compromising on safety even if the freight is "time-sensitive", is simply beyond me !!

[golfhobo]

I absolutely can't fathom what's so difficult about simply pulling over safely by the shoulder of the highway, walking 20-30 feet out into the bushes, & "watering the plants" in a discreet manner !!! How much time does that take...maybe 5 minutes ? How it's advisable to use pee-bottles while driving, & compromising on safety even if the freight is "time-sensitive", is simply beyond me !!

Perhaps some are, but I believe the majority of pee bottles are NOT "filled" while driving. Most, I believe, are filled while a driver is in the sleeper at night, and doesn't want to get dressed and go inside to use the facilities. (Others are filled by team drivers in the sleeper so as not to ask the driver to stop.... again!)

Pulling over on the side of the road is dangerous, although an off ramp is pretty quick access. But, then there are always prying eyes. Many drivers spend most of their time in cities or on major highways, not all get out in the boonies like me.

But, regardless of how they are filled, there is no reason on Earth not to dispose of them properly.

[kilog55]

whats wrong with standing on the catwalk wiht your back to traffic odds are if someone sees you they cant tell what your doing.

now for the ladies this is a completely differant story.

but i know some of us are hunters why not use the spare bladder thingy? it gels and deodorizes the urine and you get a few uses out of it.

the ones that have gallon jugs in the rig are the ones i worry about. especially if they have a few full ones beofre they toss em. why not just dump em out?

[Shebear]

What was that famous line from the movie?

Didn't it go like this -- "I am not an animal. I am a HUMAN BEING!"

After the "Trainers" I have driven with, I'm surprised there are actually those bottles around at all. First of all, these experienced drivers sleep in their clothes, so there is no problem "getting dressed" to go outside.

Secondly, they think bending down under the catwalk somehow is the
perfect place for No. 1 and No. 2. As a woman, I have been advised on
two mornings by two different "Trainers" to do this.

Since I respect myself, and since I am a "HUMAN BEING," I don't believe
the pavement of the Interstate is supposed to be my bathroom. In these
situations, I informed the "Trainers" I would wait for a suitable stop, which
of course was just a few minutes down the highway.

Yes, the hours and the lack of breaks and the stress levels and the fatigue and hunger, yes they all add up! But this is still a job which can pay the bills AND give the individual some joy on a daily basis, if they're not
hung-up on a pity party all the time.

And when you're early at your destination, your time is your own.

Why, then, this brutality? Not only performing basic physical functions, but the profanity, hair-trigger anger, and sexual exhibitionism in word and/or deed?

It's a lack of self-respect, and that started WAY BEFORE the person got behind the wheel of a truck. It's even a reflection of self-loathing.

Valuing themselves and others so little, trucks become potential weapons of suicide or murder. And the accident records in the industry are skyrocketing. THERE IS A CONNECTION.

[BanditsCousin]

Peeing in bottles is cool< dumping them is not. Any driver that pees in a bottle instead of in the parking lot (creating a nasty peepee smell on a summer night) gets my kudos. Now go and walk it to the 50 million trash cans in the parking lot :wink: I don't throw anything out the window. I threw a soda can out that exploded and was shooting everywhere one time, but that was it. Anything less is unexcusable.

I always ask for an extra bag or two at the truckstop, and have never been turned down.