ironeagle said:

Where did I mention sex?

That is rudimentarily close to what I was saying.

Perhaps, you suffered from the same inarticulation that MOST men suffer from. However, this thread is NOT about MEN being romantic.

Or, perhaps, by the smile on her face as she awakens.

I'm sorry, ironeagle. Sometimes it is hard to tell whether you are agreeing with me or arguing. I don't mean to offend.

But, this is not a question that is open for debate. Reb asked a question that I believe was intended to find out what MEN think is romantic. Not all men are the same. My opinion is as valid and informative as ANY other's.

There IS no right or wrong answer. I can't "cite the reg." There IS no regulation. :lol2:

There are no regulations just guidelines!

But there is.

Rev, I have to disagree with this. There is no 'one size fits all' answer when it comes to romance. What works for one couple may not work for another. But hey, if what you do works for you and your lady, good for you, but don't think it's the only right answer.

What you keep describing is more about a relationship, not specifically what is considered romantic. Guys have it easier, flowers, jewelry, yada, yada, yada. The usual 'romantic' gestures that our society has programmed us to expect.

Personally, I think anything that shows someone that you care, and are thinking of them is romantic, but I do tend to be more practical than frivolous, which is why I come off as not being romantic, to some people.

Hobo Darlin', I'm not arguing for my limitations, I'm trying to face them realistically, and grow beyond them. And I do wake up smiling in the morning. Thank you!

So why did you ask a "one size fits all" question in the first place?

As I said, there are right answers, and wrong answers. The wrong answer is pretty obvious. If you were to ask:

"What do men consider 'romantic'?",

and I said that men consider getting kicked in the nuts to be romantic, then that would be the wrong answer. Sure, the right answers aren't that obvious, but therein lies the problem. But nowhere did I ever say that there was only one answer.

In my opinion, you can't have a solid relationship without romance, and romance should ultimately lead to a relationship (otherwise there's a good chance that it isn't really romance in the first place). They are intertwined.

No, there isn't. But, if there were.... I'm sure you would misinterpret it. :clap:

Oh..........I'm sorry. I got on this thread a bit late in the game. Better late than never though.

What is it you need to know about romance Reb? Hell, you could have just PM'd me. Disregard both Hobo and Rev, they're both amateurs.:lol: Better leave this one to Belpre, boys.:clap:

No problem that you are a first time caller, long time listener. I'm sure that I can steer you in the right direction!

Go ahead Reb, ask away...............................:thumbsup:

It isn't a "one size fits all" question. It's a question that prompts some thought, and hopefully, an open exchange of ideas and/or opinions. Why is it that men are expected to make romantic gestures, like sending flowers, but there seems to be no equivilant 'standard' for woman to romance their man? It puzzles me. Most men I've asked don't have any idea what would be considered a romantic gesture from a woman. I get a lot of the usual 'meet him at the door in a teddy', but to me there is a distinction between being romantic and being sexy. Are men really that simple? I don't think so.



And there are some S&M aficianados who would disagree with you. :moon: There are no wrong answers, what works for some won't work for others.



And I respect your opinion. I'm not sure that I agree with it, but you are as entitled to express it as anyone else. And maybe when you grow up you'll realize that other peoples opinions, whether you agree with them or not, are just as valid as yours.

Perhaps you can show me where I stated that someone's opinion here was not valid, or was less valid than mine. Because as far as I can see, I simply disagreed with someone's opinion........THE SAME EXACT THING YOU JUST DID.

I'd love for you to point out where I invalidated someone's opinion.

Then you have your answer, Reb. Buy the fella Craftmans tools, Budweiser, and a new putter.