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GM is playing the age-old shell game...with our money.

Edit a mistake.

werner gave you the real 411. 23cpm
yes the the union have problems when you dont want 9.50 or 50 cpm or 20$.
i only make 36cpm and 15$ but i paid for my hazmat and twic and im training on my own time cuz im next and i want every thing.
hang on to that steering wheel and stay out of the ditch and get out of yer rut

And how many non-union O/O have gone bellyup in the past few years?
Thousands?
Hauling/working cheap ain't the answer.

Most owner operators don't belong to a union. An owner operator is a businessman. The only thing the union will do is take his money. A union cannot make an owner operator a good businessman. There are several reasons why owner operators have gone out of business. Lack of knowledge, little or no experience and lack of sufficient working capital top the list. The poor economy has not helped, either. I agree that many have been hauling too cheap to make a profit. Others have simply not managed their money as well as they should. Some of them should have stayed a company driver. They could have made more money. Thousands of carriers have also gone out of business the last couple of years for much of the same reasons.

I'm not Union and I was wrong about GM so I guess I'm not perfect either. You work for $0.23 a mile, I'm speechless. Its not about being Union or non union, its about someone making $0.23 a mile.

Yeah, it's funny to watch all the people stare on , transfixed at the figure, because that is all that truly matters to them.
I am home every night, well every morning.
I don't have to haul crap that may blow me up, corrode me into a pile of goop, poison me or make me glow in the dark.
I didn't have to go back out into OTR for a "refresher".
And i don't have to put up with a union trying to hose me with crap jobs, excessive dues and trying to make me think the time I have been in trucking to date means exactly jack squat.

Gawk at the figure all you want, but for me it's a decent tradeoff.

Good for you, Ronin. You found something that works for you. Don't worry about the naysayers. Some don't understand that there are some things more important than money. Besides, some may live in areas with a high cost of living and where you live may cost much less. Cost of living is something that some don't consider when looking for a job. As long as the job meets your needs then it is good for you. :thumbsup:

I'm a little confused... What's this about Con-Way? (The main reason I ask is because I applied with them recently. They still haven't responded, though).

Disclaimer: This isn't a rant against Ronin, but rather a rant against the way Werner does things.

... and said OTR drivers are usually rather ticked off when they find that they have to hand over that 2,000 mile load to a net-ops driver. I'm not any more enthused about that deal than anyone else on here, especially because it ends up taking away from the drivers' bottom line when this is done. It also isn't making things any better for any company or O/O out there wishing to still make money, because it just keeps giving folks an incentive to do things cheaper and cheaper.

In the end isn't that all that matters?