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Fredog 04-28-2010 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Syncrosonix (Post 479792)

there's absolutely nothing wrong with hauling hazardous materials. they just take a bit more COMMON SENSE to haul as well as certain routes they must abide by. common sense is something that many of the drivers out there don't have, though.

my new carrier is 100% hazmat, actually that makes it easier, I dont have to remember when I have hazmat and when I dont

philrant 04-28-2010 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 479766)
everyone else in the area for local or linehaul are either doubles, hazmat or union and to all 3 I say no way.


Whats your beef with LTL or Unions? Don't be afraid of the money, it can be quite nice.

Ronin 04-30-2010 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by Syncrosonix (Post 479792)

there's absolutely nothing wrong with hauling hazardous materials. they just take a bit more COMMON SENSE to haul as well as certain routes they must abide by. common sense is something that many of the drivers out there don't have, though.

It also takes 140 dollars for a two year endorsement on a license I renew every 4 for a third of that cost. Most companies don't pay extra for HazMat much less reimburse the expense involved. Hence, it's a waste of my time.

Ronin 04-30-2010 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by Pack_Rat2 (Post 479768)
$614 a week before taxes depending on how many dependents you have or do not have you might see oh say $500 a week or less. Now if you are home on weekends and I mean a full weekend Meaning you run just 5 days a week you are with that tractor 24 hrs a day or 120 hrs a week that brings your pay up to a grand total of roughly $4.16 an hr. And you think that is good. Whatever floats you boat. It is drivers like you that help keep the industry pay in the crapper like it is now because you will put up with that kind of pay.


I am home every night.
A typical day looks something like this. (Keep in mind Werner uses the Qualcomm to track logs)

1745 Driver Sign-on
1745 Show Unit Available for Load
1750 Load Assigned
1750 Split Assigned
1755 Committed to Load & Split
1800 Arrival At Shipper (Line 4)
1815 Load has been picked up
1815 Going to line 3
2215 Arrival at Split. (Line 4)
2230 Load Split
2230-2330 Off Duty (Line 1)
2330 Return Load & Split Assigned
2330 Committed to Return Load & Split
2330 Arrival at Shipper (Line 4)
2345 Load picked up
2345 Fuel
0000 Driving
0400 Arrival at Split. (Line 4)
0415 Load Split
0415 Sign previous days log
0415 Driver Signing Off (Line 1)

Totals
Line 3 8hrs
Line 4 1hr

5 days x 9 hrs on duty 45hrs a week 610/45 hrs is 13.55/hr

So your estimates are a little off. But thanks for playing.

Ronin 04-30-2010 12:52 AM


Originally Posted by philrant (Post 479825)
Whats your beef with LTL or Unions? Don't be afraid of the money, it can be quite nice.

My beef with Unions

1. They value seniority over merit. I was told I'd have to be a Package Handler making 9.50/hr at UPS for 15 YEARS before I'd have the seniority I needed to get a CDL job, despite the fact I had 2 years OTR and 15 months local operations experience with no preventables or DOT Violations. FUC$ THAT!

2. They care only about what they get and not if the company they work for can afford it. GM anyone?

As far as LTL goes I could care less, but they require Doubles and HazMat and neither endorsement will be on my license in the near future.

Pack_Rat2 04-30-2010 01:21 AM


Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 479884)
I am home every night.
A typical day looks something like this. (Keep in mind Werner uses the Qualcomm to track logs)

1745 Driver Sign-on
1745 Show Unit Available for Load
1750 Load Assigned
1750 Split Assigned
1755 Committed to Load & Split
1800 Arrival At Shipper (Line 4)
1815 Load has been picked up
1815 Going to line 3
2215 Arrival at Split. (Line 4)
2230 Load Split
2230-2330 Off Duty (Line 1)
2330 Return Load & Split Assigned
2330 Committed to Return Load & Split
2330 Arrival at Shipper (Line 4)
2345 Load picked up
2345 Fuel
0000 Driving
0400 Arrival at Split. (Line 4)
0415 Load Split
0415 Sign previous days log
0415 Driver Signing Off (Line 1)

Totals
Line 3 8hrs
Line 4 1hr

5 days x 9 hrs on duty 45hrs a week 610/45 hrs is 13.55/hr

So your estimates are a little off. But thanks for playing.


See you did not break it down like that. But still either way you may bring home depending again on dependents $450 to $500 a week. And that is if werner keeps up there end of the bargain and if they do not lose the contract. Me personally I would not work for those LOW wages. And neither should any driver. that is why companies like that know they can get away with slave wages because they know people will work for that!!!!!! Let us know in 6 months how its going.

philrant 04-30-2010 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 479885)
My beef with Unions

1. They value seniority over merit. I was told I'd have to be a Package Handler making 9.50/hr at UPS for 15 YEARS before I'd have the seniority I needed to get a CDL job, despite the fact I had 2 years OTR and 15 months local operations experience with no preventables or DOT Violations. FUC$ THAT!

2. They care only about what they get and not if the company they work for can afford it. GM anyone?

As far as LTL goes I could care less, but they require Doubles and HazMat and neither endorsement will be on my license in the near future.


Cool enjoy your $0.23 cpm go nowhere job.

Joey Shabadoo 04-30-2010 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 479884)
I am home every night.
A typical day looks something like this. (Keep in mind Werner uses the Qualcomm to track logs)

That's IF everything goes 100%.
Anyone who's spent any time driving a truck knows that things rarely go that smoothly.
And when they don't (traffic, breakdown, weather, delays, etc)...that $13.50/hr gets whittled down real quick.
Qualcomm...easy to cheat...it doesn't know what's happening when the wheels aren't spinning under a load.

Besides, if this was such a great home-everynight job, there'd be a waiting list a mile long to hire on.
And yet, Werner's always hiring...just another low-rent coolie carrier.


Originally Posted by philrant
Cool enjoy your $0.23 cpm go nowhere job.

He's got a shiny blue truck and an APU.
What more can a supertrucker ask for? :lol:

Ronin 04-30-2010 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by philrant (Post 479888)
Cool enjoy your $0.23 cpm go nowhere job.


I notice you didn't attempt to argue those points. You must be one of the "haves" with the seniority. One of the ones with a vested interest in the status quo. That alone tells me all I need to know.

Ronin 04-30-2010 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by Pack_Rat2 (Post 479886)
See you did not break it down like that. But still either way you may bring home depending again on dependents $450 to $500 a week. And that is if werner keeps up there end of the bargain and if they do not lose the contract. Me personally I would not work for those LOW wages. And neither should any driver. that is why companies like that know they can get away with slave wages because they know people will work for that!!!!!! Let us know in 6 months how its going.

As far as freight there is no contract. If it's west-bound general freight, it's fair game for "Net-Ops" guys. We don't handle true expedite or hot freight, but that's what teams and OTR drivers are for.


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