INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT BUT WASNT @ FAULT. MIGHT LOSE MY JOB
 

I WAS INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT INVOLVING 4 CARS. CAUSED BY 1 OF THE CARS CUTTING OFF AND HITTING ANOTHER. IS IT LEGAL FOR ME TO LOSE MY JOB OVER THIS??

if the police report says that it should be a non issue

video cameras----everyone needs at least one aimed forward out the windshield at all times---CCTV cameras mounted on the mirror mounts would be nice too.

Re: INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT BUT WASNT @ FAULT. MIGHT LOSE MY
 

were you given a citation??

if yes, than you will most likely lose your job and have difficulties finding another one

Lose Job
 

Would your company safety types figure you were following too close or inattentive drivg? Could. BOL

Depends 100% on the company, we had a driver that ran his truck off the end of a road at a Tee intersection and rolled it. They gave him a new 2008 Peterbilt when he got back to the yard.

Well that could be a punishment if you like KW .

this is what we have. in the pic i don't have the power cord or the video cord to the vcr pluged in
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...w/DSCF0233.jpg
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NOONE WAS ISSUED A CITATION @ ALL

It depends on your company's policy on accidents. If it is found that it was a un- preventable accident, I doubt you will be terminated. If it is determined it was a preventable accident it may just go on your record and that will be the end of that.

Now if it was your 2nd or 3rd preventable for example, than the outcome could be different.


Good Luck.

Yep..it depends on the companies safety dept and their view of things.

We had a guy involved in an accident and the police stated it was completely the fault of the car driver .

The safety dept decided he could have prevented it ...cost him alot of bonus money in the end.

Personal Video Camera Holder
 

I was curious, In the story about being issued a ticket for being in an accident, Some poster puts up a picture of a video camera staring out the drivers side windshield. Does anyone know if this is company issued or was it personally installed? Does anyone know where I can get one?

THATS THE SAME QUESTION I HAVE ABOUT THE CAMERA. ALSO HOW MUCH WAS THE MOUNT IF IT WASNT PROVIDED BY THE COMPANY?

zipy46... I WOULD LOVE TO LOSE BONUS $$$ OVER MY JOB. I GUESS ILL FIND OUT ON THE 31ST.

the camera and mount are mine not company.

i have a 100w power inverter running the laptop and the camera, the video out runs to the vcr in the sleeper with an 8hr tape.

that mount you can't buy, it's an old german camera mount that i have had for 30+ years and it was $120 then but it will hold up to a 30lb camera, has a built in triipod and wood screw and bar clamp.

ram mount makes one that will work http://65.102.174.116/rammount/produ...=RAM-B-149Z-C1

you could try this camera it's small and cheep you would just have to make a mount for it http://www.mp3playerstore.com/stuff_...ies/CAM-07.htm

one more thing my video camrea can take still pic's anytime with just a push of a button. when i say the roads are bad and we are stopping i just take a few pic's and email them to our fm.

it realy is handy.

Re: INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT BUT WASNT @ FAULT. MIGHT LOSE MY
 

Your question is confusing me? Why would you be fired if it wasn't your fault? It's hard to say without you telling us what actually happened.

Did anyone hit you? or... Did you hit anyone?

But the big question is..... Did you avoid getting hit? avoid hitting someone else? and in that process damage the truck?

There is a gray area when it comes to accidents. If an accident is caused and you avoid hitting someone or you got out of the way to avoid being hit and in that process you damaged your truck....... yeah, you can be fired.

They will say it was preventable (because you caused the damage to the truck, not the person who was cited for the accident). The reason is insurance. Your company will have to foot the bill and not the person who caused the accident.

Is that what happened?

Yes definatley better to keep ones job...

I am more afraid of the 'DAC' report than anything else in this industry...

almost feels like a shadow of doom is following me ....

maybe its an over reaction on my part .

nice, where'd you get the c-clamp? that looks cool.

you can build your own system for less than $1000.00-
you need a Desktop PC- with 2.5in(laptop) hard drives(work while truck bounces around without ruining the disc surface.)

a PCI multi-camera video card( surveilance system )

then you can hook up to 12 CCTV(including night vision) cameras---record all this to digital video(hard drive) even live stream it----sorta.

I even like the wi-fi linked mini-camera with suction cup mount---you can stick to the inside wall of your trailer and watch/record the loading/unloading,
and also mount it inside the cab- while truck is being serviced- catches the
mechanics stealing your stuff.

Re: INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT BUT WASNT @ FAULT. MIGHT LOSE MY
 

it's legal to lose your job for any reason, in some cases it may not be right, but no company has a legal obligation to employ you..

ben45750... I WAS THE 4TH VEHICLE IN A 4 CAR ACCIDENT THAT WAS STARTED BY A CAR CUTTING SOME ONE OFF 3 CARS IN FRONT OF ME. DIDNT HAVE ANY OTHE PLACE TO GO EXCEPT INTO THE CAR THAT WAS IN FRONT OF ME AS THIS ACCIDENT HAPPENED ON A BRIDGE.

Company could come back and say you were following to close to the vehicle in front of you.You weren't managing the space around your truck.

Sounds like you rear-ended the 3rd veh. in which case it will be viewed by safety as a preventable. Depending on your companies policies you will probably loose your job!!
:cry:

Re: INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT BUT WASNT @ FAULT. MIGHT LOSE MY
 

It's a two part equation. At Fault/Not At Fault + Preventable/Non-Preventable. Preventability is determined by your employer. If it's not a force majeure type event, the putz's usually consider it preventable.

I hope your log for the last few weeks is accurate. In an accident situation companies are just like lawyers and immediately start scouring the logbook.

Re: INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT BUT WASNT @ FAULT. MIGHT LOSE MY
 

YEAH SAFTEY TOOK MY LAST 7 RIGHT AFTER THAT ACCIDENT. I KNOW THEY ARE GONNA LOOK BACK FARTHER THAN THAT, BUT IM NOT WORRIED.

The designation of P or NP will be entirely up to the safety dept at your company. If it is your first accident, I personally believe based on my experience, that you will be slapped by your company with in-house points or maybe probation. If you are on probation, there may be further consequences. Good luck. When writing reports remember wording is sometimes really important. "I was involved in an accident", NOT "I had an accident". Sometimes just the wording can screw you up. I once was assigned to oversee drivers written reports before they were handed into the company's safety dept.

I HAVENT HAD TO GIVE A WRIYYEN REPORT AS OF YET, BUT THANX. I C HOW WORDING CAN CHANGE THE WAY IT WILL BE LOOKED @ WHEN THAT TIME COMES.

headborg you can't get that clamp anymore it was $120 when i got it 30+ years ago. i posted a link to ram-mount that has one that will work.

you can build a system for under $150 if you want to. i posted a link to mp3playerstore.com thay have a night cam for $40. you can make a mount for $5, a vcr for $40 a power inverter for $20 to power all of it.

but any camera will work as long as it has video out and can be AC powered.

our camcorder runs most of the time but we have it recording on the vcr that way the camera is not going to wear out any time soon.

this spring we went in to eat, when we came out the cops were talking to a driver who had his hood riped off when he was inside getting a shower. i went and checked the vcr and had a good view of it. showed it to the cop then burned it to a dvd and gave it to the cop.

Even paranoids have enemies.

Re: INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT BUT WASNT @ FAULT. MIGHT LOSE MY
 

Always cover your tail see if you can afford a lawyer if you were charged with the accident if not don't worry about. Just get a copy of the accident report for your personal records. Now if your loaded with extra money to spend retain a lawyer just incase and sue the company if they fire you for no good reason.

Having only been driving 2 years.. and talking to people here and there,

I am pondering...is trucking a cause of paranoia? ....

or does it simply aggrivate our basic instinct for self preservation ?

Definatley a strange line of work

I have come to accept that i may show up to work and hit 'ready for dispatch' ... and simply be told i am no longer needed ...for no reason whatsoever...

Like the uncertainty principal for trucking...

Ya never really know :roll:

a TV camera installled in your rig ?... will it alter fate or destiny ?

has it helped you out so far i am wondering ?...several people where i work speak of installing them into their rigs

i am curious :arrow:

caps lock is cruise control for cool 8)

yeah,u got that right. i found that out when they fired me. i guess i woulda been better of running the trk into the drink off that bridge rather than tag a 4 wheeler. still dont know how the company's gonna put it on my dac. i can pretty much imagine, though.

I suspect they'll say you should have had more following distance and when you saw the car 2-3 ahead of you being cut off, you should have started bringing your rig to a stop.

thats exactly what i did. 79784 lbs gross aint gonna stop on a dime. believe it or not, saftey told me i shoulda had 8 seconds between me and the car in front of me. 8 seconds.... in christmas traffic....... yeah right.

I think the 'rule' that I had to know for my test at the MVA was 1 second per 10 feet of vehicle length. Add a second over 45 mph. Add 'much more time' in bad weather, night, etc. So with a 53 foot trailer and another 15-20 feet of tractor, I'm sure that they can claim that eight seconds was required.

It sucks, but the rules are in place for 'them', not you and I. Good luck with it.

Sorry this happened to you MAN. On the subject of leaving room in front of you it is amazing how many trucks you see barreling down the road
at 70plus right on someones tail , not only are trucks guilty but 4 wheelers more so. Anyway not ment to reflect on your accident but the post concerning the one second per ft rule was a subject I have thought about addressing on this forum before.

I teach driver's ed (hopefully only for another month. I promised I wouldn't go anywhere until end of January. I burned 'em once before a little bit when trying another new career, so I kinda owe them since they took me back when it didn't work out) and one of the big things I preach is following distance. It's very, very tough to maintain those by the book following distances, be it care, bike, or truck, but damned if it isn't a helluva lot easier than doing an emergency manuever.