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okie 11-12-2007 07:15 PM

Is Crete last of the 65 mph racers...
 
I have been passed by Hunt, Swift and Schneider trucks the past couple weeks. So I guess that makes Crete last of the 65 mph ers. I can still pass Roadways and ABF.

zipy46 11-12-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Is Crete last of the 65 mph racers...
 

Originally Posted by okie
I have been passed by Hunt, Swift and Schneider trucks the past couple weeks. So I guess that makes Crete last of the 65 mph ers. I can still pass Roadways and ABF.

Jim Palmer is set at 65 max.

Some companies run at 68 but turn the trucks speed down if
the driver idles the engine to much in the summer.

This may explain the different speeds of the same companies trucks.
Sometimes I pass a Swift and somedays they fly by me.

Twilight Flyer 11-13-2007 01:16 AM

Swift is 65. They have lease-purchasers that are driving company-looking trucks that are governed at 72, I believe.

okie 11-13-2007 01:36 AM

oh ok
 
I am just starting to realize all the control they have over these trucks.

OKtrucker 11-13-2007 02:39 AM

Hey, it is their truck, if you have a need for speed buy your own and run it anyway you want...just my HO!

okie 11-13-2007 03:22 AM

thats ok
 
I do just fine running on the company dime. You just dont want to be the slowest on the road ya know.

Uturn2001 11-13-2007 04:53 AM

Re: thats ok
 

Originally Posted by okie
I do just fine running on the company dime. You just dont want to be the slowest on the road ya know.

Why?

Many of these companies that govern their trucks at 62-65 mph are among the higher paying companies.

I would much rather put along at 62 mph making 35 cpm than be able to do 75 and only get paid 24 cpm.

If you really pay attention many times you will see the same fast truck pass you several times in one day.

okie 11-13-2007 05:19 AM

Not getting it
 
I am fine @ 35 cpm going 65 mph, you are right. I guess it is just knowing that the cb jokes will be about Crete soon, as we quickly become slowest. But that was my original point, are there any 62-65 companies left? We are at 65 and those companies that were 62-64 are passing us and not just passing us but blowing by

11-13-2007 05:50 AM

Okie do not worry about it with fuel going up even more sooner or later those other companies will be cutting them back again over the Qcom it can be done. At my last company we were given a program over the sat system that if we met certain goals we got 68 and my truck normally sat there called no idle time and high MPG. Sooner or later the cost of fuel will catch up to those fleets and they will get slowed down again.

robertt 11-13-2007 06:27 AM

Sorry to jump in folks. Hey Okie, is Penny still at B-ville?

OKtrucker 11-13-2007 06:38 AM

okie-I guess it is just knowing that the cb jokes will be about Crete

Use the -/o switch. I ran over 12 years with no cb. big deal, nothing worth listening to anyways and at 62-65 don't really need to know where the bears are...

Elmdor 11-13-2007 06:47 AM

According to my GPS company side Prime trucks run at 62MPH (Lease runs at 72MPH) so you can always pass one of them at 65mph. Albertson's runs at 55MPH
:P :lol:

AlexJ81 11-14-2007 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Elmdor
According to my GPS company side Prime trucks run at 62MPH (Lease runs at 72MPH) so you can always pass one of them at 65mph. Albertson's runs at 55MPH
:P :lol:

55? yikes! It's my understanding that US Xpress & Swift both run at 65. USX drivers can bump up to 68 depending on how much fuel they're using. JB & SNI are between 62&63 Trans Am is 65-67 I do believe.

rcpilot 11-14-2007 11:52 AM

Ruan runs 65...

AmEagleDrvr 11-14-2007 12:54 PM

FFE runs 65

inmate1577 11-14-2007 01:53 PM

Most people who want faster trucks generally are late anyway. Whether it was governed at 65 or 95mph, they would still end up being late to their pu/del and blame everything and everyone else for it.

swab11 11-15-2007 02:47 AM

ran for Crete for awhile never could get use to that optimize idle,if its cold I can sleep good,but hot weather is something else,on and off all night,never got a good nights sleep and dont think I could ever get use to it.

nickbtubas 11-15-2007 04:01 AM

crete goes faster than 65mph. i can go 70 and struggle to pass a crete sometimes... maybe they are in a different division/account where they run faster...

WildK9 11-17-2007 04:49 AM

Marten goes 65, but it doesn't bother me @ .40cpm.

11-17-2007 08:25 AM

We run 65 at Barr Nunn as well and it really honestly just doesnt bother me that much. Being able to run 68-70 really does not make that much difference in the long run anyways. say you get a 68 mph truck instead of a 65, if you ran non stop at this speed for your entire 11 hour shift without stopping or slowing down for anything or going up any hills at all(you know none of this will happen) you would gain 33 miles for the entire day and that would be under 100% perfect never gonna happen circumstances. It would be 55 miles on a 70mph truck...it just really doesnt make that much difference. I really dont care myself, i am being paid well for my time and not spending any of my own money to make the truck run. 65 works for me, pass me all you want and blow some more of that fuel out those stacks, after you get done stopping for coffee a few times i am still gonna beat ya to the customer lol.

Drew10 11-17-2007 01:17 PM

Werner still at 65

AmEagleDrvr 11-17-2007 01:32 PM

SAIA at 65. Looks like quite a few Co.'s at 65

Voyager 11-17-2007 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by ironeagle2006
Okie do not worry about it with fuel going up even more sooner or later those other companies will be cutting them back again over the Qcom it can be done. Sooner or later the cost of fuel will catch up to those fleets and they will get slowed down again.

I have a friend who drives for First Fleet out in Arizona. They had been running at 72 mph, but just recently have been cut back to 65, so it is starting to happen.

headborg 11-17-2007 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Jagerbomber
We run 65 at Barr Nunn as well and it really honestly just doesnt bother me that much. Being able to run 68-70 really does not make that much difference in the long run anyways. say you get a 68 mph truck instead of a 65, if you ran non stop at this speed for your entire 11 hour shift without stopping or slowing down for anything or going up any hills at all(you know none of this will happen) you would gain 33 miles for the entire day and that would be under 100% perfect never gonna happen circumstances. It would be 55 miles on a 70mph truck...it just really doesnt make that much difference. I really dont care myself, i am being paid well for my time and not spending any of my own money to make the truck run. 65 works for me, pass me all you want and blow some more of that fuel out those stacks, after you get done stopping for coffee a few times i am still gonna beat ya to the customer lol.

This is pretty smart thinking(above),

the only points that detract from the above logic are:

If you run JIT freight or coast-coast( out west ) on long hauls it is very possible to run those 11hr full days and average 68 with a 70 mile per hour truck....and lets say you were able to get those extra 33miles-just 40% of the time= 4818miles a year extra x .42 cent=$2,023.56 dollars a year more...and that's just 4 out of 10 days a year.

Where it's true- most guys with those "large cars" do stop MORE on average.....He could "keep the left door shut" as easily as YOU -have to....and at least he doesn't have to pee in a bottle!

Hey, I'm driving a 65 mile per hour Shaffer Truck and it doesn't bother me
either....I'm paid well too( when I get some miles) and what you didn't point out...is We get in less trouble with the law running 65....especially back east in 65 and 55 mph states...having a clean CDL(mvr) allows you to hire on at "better" companies...than those "outlaw" outfits.

11-17-2007 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by headborg

Originally Posted by Jagerbomber
We run 65 at Barr Nunn as well and it really honestly just doesnt bother me that much. Being able to run 68-70 really does not make that much difference in the long run anyways. say you get a 68 mph truck instead of a 65, if you ran non stop at this speed for your entire 11 hour shift without stopping or slowing down for anything or going up any hills at all(you know none of this will happen) you would gain 33 miles for the entire day and that would be under 100% perfect never gonna happen circumstances. It would be 55 miles on a 70mph truck...it just really doesnt make that much difference. I really dont care myself, i am being paid well for my time and not spending any of my own money to make the truck run. 65 works for me, pass me all you want and blow some more of that fuel out those stacks, after you get done stopping for coffee a few times i am still gonna beat ya to the customer lol.

This is pretty smart thinking(above),

the only points that detract from the above logic are:

If you run JIT freight or coast-coast( out west ) on long hauls it is very possible to run those 11hr full days and average 68 with a 70 mile per hour truck....and lets say you were able to get those extra 33miles-just 40% of the time= 4818miles a year extra x .42 cent=$2,023.56 dollars a year more...and that's just 4 out of 10 days a year.

Where it's true- most guys with those "large cars" do stop MORE on average.....He could "keep the left door shut" as easily as YOU -have to....and at least he doesn't have to pee in a bottle!

Hey, I'm driving a 65 mile per hour Shaffer Truck and it doesn't bother me
either....I'm paid well too( when I get some miles) and what you didn't point out...is We get in less trouble with the law running 65....especially back east in 65 and 55 mph states...having a clean CDL(mvr) allows you to hire on at "better" companies...than those "outlaw" outfits.


Yeah, i agree with what you say about being able to run that out in the open and flat areas of the west and midwest, it is possible and some really determined drivers can(I could if I had to) but really in most cases with most drivers on an average day its just not gonna happen.
But we are definitely on the same page, if you are getting paid well, it just doesnt really matter as a company driver.....as an owner/op I can see this as an issue. I know I would be pretty determined to keep those miles clicking off on the odometer as quickly as possible if i was paying for everything. But really,as a company man, it dont really matter....if you got that extra 33 miles one day, you would just lose it sitting on another day, you really dont have enough control over what you do to make that 3 mph make a difference as a company driver.

headborg 11-17-2007 02:08 PM

with the price of fuel what it is today and going to be tomorrow....most O/O are trying to run 60mph and get their equipment spec'd out to do just that.
Unless they're running JIT airfreight or some other very high paying freight that just has to be there in a flash.

These "outlaw" trucking companies that give a driver a 80mph truck and .27cents per mile and a bottle of pills....and tell them to make the comic book look good....well, they're only staying in the game BECAUSE they 're
paying their drivers so low.....instead of the money going in their driver's pocket or their own...it's going to the PETAL and out the Stack. And these drivers are going to rack up tickets, ruin their MVR about the same time their Boss files Chapter 11...and skips out with their last paycheck.

wackyncrazy 11-19-2007 04:58 AM

I have no problem running 65 you still get there. Plus I love watching these fast trucks pass me several times a day. Then at the end of the day all being parked at the same place. Lets see they have stopped 3 or 4 times in the day. Most likely at a TS and spent money then sped drown the road and then took a break cuase they have been running the limit all day and need to take a nap for an 30min or an hour then back down the road running hard to make up time. But we all end up in the same place and I stopped to releive myself grabbed a sammy out of the cooler and back down the road at 65 and I still park at the same place all you fast truck parked at. Humm going fast isn't saving you anything

headborg 11-19-2007 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by wackyncrazy
I have no problem running 65 you still get there. Plus I love watching these fast trucks pass me several times a day. Then at the end of the day all being parked at the same place. Lets see they have stopped 3 or 4 times in the day. Most likely at a TS and spent money then sped drown the road and then took a break cuase they have been running the limit all day and need to take a nap for an 30min or an hour then back down the road running hard to make up time. But we all end up in the same place and I stopped to releive myself grabbed a sammy out of the cooler and back down the road at 65 and I still park at the same place all you fast truck parked at. Humm going fast isn't saving you anything

Yes, but....give ME a fast truck with 200gal tanks, no sat tracking or pre-pass or any other electronic/paper trail and we both could leave LA at the exact time- and I'd leave you n the dust....run to Hunts point market, unload/ reload and pass you heading back to LA somewhere around Memphis.
Been there, Done it before...could do it again. Just don't expect me to pay for that Fuel!

beeiatch 11-19-2007 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by headborg

Originally Posted by wackyncrazy
I have no problem running 65 you still get there. Plus I love watching these fast trucks pass me several times a day. Then at the end of the day all being parked at the same place. Lets see they have stopped 3 or 4 times in the day. Most likely at a TS and spent money then sped drown the road and then took a break cuase they have been running the limit all day and need to take a nap for an 30min or an hour then back down the road running hard to make up time. But we all end up in the same place and I stopped to releive myself grabbed a sammy out of the cooler and back down the road at 65 and I still park at the same place all you fast truck parked at. Humm going fast isn't saving you anything

Yes, but....give ME a fast truck with 200gal tanks, no sat tracking or pre-pass or any other electronic/paper trail and we both could leave LA at the exact time- and I'd leave you n the dust....run to Hunts point market, unload/ reload and pass you heading back to LA somewhere around Memphis.
Been there, Done it before...could do it again. Just don't expect me to pay for that Fuel!


Whopdee do.

Cyanide 11-19-2007 08:17 AM

Agree with the majority...

As a company driver at Superior Carriers, I enjoyed 65 mph and .58/mile a helluva lot better than .38/mile and 75 mph at Aartman, or worse, .34 loaded/.29 empty and 80 mph back at Indian River years ago... :roll: :lol:

Of course now I'm doing...... What, did you really expect me to tell!!! :D :P

WildK9 11-19-2007 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by headborg

Yes, but....give ME a fast truck with 200gal tanks, no sat tracking or pre-pass or any other electronic/paper trail and we both could leave LA at the exact time- and I'd leave you n the dust....run to Hunts point market, unload/ reload and pass you heading back to LA somewhere around Memphis.
Been there, Done it before...could do it again. Just don't expect me to pay for that Fuel!

So, you'd rather run yourself into the ground and take chances just to make the same money. Been there, done that myself. I used to feel the same way. It's more stressful than it's worth. :wink:

OKtrucker 11-19-2007 11:44 AM

Yes, but....give ME a fast truck with 200gal tanks, no sat tracking or pre-pass or any other electronic/paper trail and we both could leave LA at the exact time- and I'd leave you n the dust....run to Hunts point market, unload/ reload and pass you heading back to LA somewhere around Memphis.
Been there, Done it before...could do it again. Just don't expect me to pay for that Fuel!


Always a super trucker in every crowd, he is also buying way more fuel then the rest of us!!

headborg 11-19-2007 04:05 PM

No, I'm sorry...I just get annoyed at people who probably actually have never driven a "large car" 100 mile per hour truck and start in on how they can drive a 65 mile per hour truck..and all those fast trucks don't actually get further or run more miles than that do...or about how "it's more stressful" driving fast and "more dangerous" when non of that is actually true.

It's actually less stressful when you can get out from behind traffic and open 'er up in the wide open.....and it's also less dangerous having more control of the vehicle( the ability to acculatrate)(be nice- if I could spell though).

The days of west coast "turn arounds" are long gone...

I'm driving a 65 mph Company truck... when I started driving I drove a 65mph truck at a time when JB and Schnieder both had cab-overs and we where getting our doors blown off by every truck on the road...in those days...almost every "hood" was doing 75 or better. We had to "keep the left door shut" just to make ends meet ....but we were still doing
4000 miles every week. Those "super truckers" then were pulling down 5600-6000 a week with those fast trucks( and it's the same distance today/same speed limit too) Then I "graduated' up to those fast trucks...
but now....because of cost of fuel...we're almost all -- driving 65 mph trucks.
About 2005 is when the price of fuel increased 100% in a year...everyone either turned down their trucks or went out of business. About the only companies that still run 75 mph trucks are small companies and they pay their drivers .27-30 cents per mile( so in effect The drivers are actually Paying for that extra fuel & tires)

Come on Be Honest>>>All other things Equal

If company X was offering you .42 per mile --- And told you, you could choose between Truck A- set at 80mph
Or, you can drive Truck B- set at 65mph.
Which truck would you choose to drive?

evertruckerr 11-20-2007 01:20 PM

Headborg wrote:


Come on Be Honest>>>All other things Equal

If company X was offering you .42 per mile --- And told you, you could choose between Truck A- set at 80mph
Or, you can drive Truck B- set at 65mph.
Which truck would you choose to drive?
My 75mph truck paid me 32cpm.

My 65mph truck pays 42cpm and $25,000 a year more.

A don't enjoy driving around at 65, but the pay more than makes up for it. and if I were paying the fuel bill, I wouldn't be going that fast.

Quick side note here. My 65mph truck sure is passing allot more O/O these days.

BIG JEEP on 44's 11-20-2007 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by evertruckerr
Headborg wrote:


Come on Be Honest>>>All other things Equal

If company X was offering you .42 per mile --- And told you, you could choose between Truck A- set at 80mph
Or, you can drive Truck B- set at 65mph.
Which truck would you choose to drive?
My 75mph truck paid me 32cpm.

My 65mph truck pays 42cpm and $25,000 a year more.

A don't enjoy driving around at 65, but the pay more than makes up for it. and if I were paying the fuel bill, I wouldn't be going that fast.

Quick side note here. My 65mph truck sure is passing allot more O/O these days.



I rember a guy that was trying to sell me on a company by the name of SUNRISE or Sunshine can't rember which one for sure trucking out of grand island NE by telling me they would go about 75 MPH ...Yeah great they currently pay .27 CPm for 2 yrs exp this was raised up from .25 CPM for 2 yrs EXP ...I would rather run a perfectly legal 2500 miles at 41 CPM and possibly a little more depending on freight , as opposed to killing myself to run 2 log books and run 4-5k miles to make about the same not 2 mention there are many places that you can't run 75 mph ,and doing so will cost you $$$ as well as the possibilty of fines or worse for HOS service violations .

headborg 11-20-2007 04:12 PM

But you're still dodging the question...

all things equal! they're going pay you the same .42 cent
and you simply choose which truck to drive.....the 80mph or the 65mph?

Yep, I completely understand the not paying very much money for a fast truck..and no I wouldn't work for .30 per mile for any company.

I believe the National AVERAGE right now is .38-.39 cents per mile with a 68mph truck and they're only averaging 2500 miles a week.

Probably everyone here, has heard about JBHunt drivers only averaging 1800 miles a week at .42 and Heartland Drivers averaging 1800 miles a week at .45.

We need to be identifing companies that pay .40 and above per mile and
ALLOW and DELIVER their drivers an AVERAGE 3200+ each week consistently.

BIG JEEP on 44's 11-20-2007 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by headborg
But you're still dodging the question...

all things equal! they're going pay you the same .42 cent
and you simply choose which truck to drive.....the 80mph or the 65mph?

Yep, I completely understand the not paying very much money for a fast truck..and no I wouldn't work for .30 per mile for any company.

I believe the National AVERAGE right now is .38-.39 cents per mile with a 68mph truck and they're only averaging 2500 miles a week.

Probably everyone here, has heard about JBHunt drivers only averaging 1800 miles a week at .42 and Heartland Drivers averaging 1800 miles a week at .45.

We need to be identifing companies that pay .40 and above per mile and
ALLOW and DELIVER their drivers an AVERAGE 3200+ each week consistently
.


.40 and above with 3200 miles a week consistancy...I'd like to see 40 Cpm with 3000k consistancy , But I don't know of any off the top of my head ,And I'm sure they would require more the 2 yrs I have OTR to get in the door .

As for the mildly quick truck of 80 MPH If I was only driving interstates where the speed limit was 75 Mph where I could get away with running about 80 MPH yes it would be fi ne , But I see many roads at 55-65 Mph , and I have no use for 80 MPH there ...Personnaly I like 65 MPH I have not had a speeding ticket in just over 3 years .

cmegobye 11-20-2007 06:51 PM

From my years with Crete, my understanding is the transmissions or rear ends or something besides the engine is set up differently than other Freightliners. (I'm a girl, I'm not sure what that thingamabobby is called). I know my Crete trucks can climb really good.

HI OKIE, I'm done with training and out of Bville

Penny is still in charge at Bville (for the poster who asked)

Ian Williams 11-21-2007 04:37 AM

All the big LTL carriers are set at 65...on level ground. Given any sort of weight or hills and it slows down. At 80k lbs I'll do about 25 on the steeper parts of Donner.

But when you are getting $0.45-52cpm and paid for everything else who cares.

If I were an O/O who wanted to run fast the last truck I'd want is a Pete 379 or KW W900. I'd get a Intl. ProStart, Freightliner Cascadia or VN. I'd have a full side flaring on the trailers sides and a covering for the gap between tractor and trailer.

headborg 11-21-2007 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Ian Williams
All the big LTL carriers are set at 65...on level ground. Given any sort of weight or hills and it slows down. At 80k lbs I'll do about 25 on the steeper parts of Donner.

But when you are getting $0.45-52cpm and paid for everything else who cares.

If I were an O/O who wanted to run fast the last truck I'd want is a Pete 379 or KW W900. I'd get a Intl. ProStart, Freightliner Cascadia or VN. I'd have a full side flaring on the trailers sides and a covering for the gap between tractor and trailer.

Well, if I were thinking about owning it and running "fast"--I'd first make sure
I had the freight that calls/pays for the "fast" part...then I'd go with the Pete 379 or KW T-600...the resell value on Freightliner and International just isn't there...the ProStar sleeper isn't that great...and those "intergrated sleepers" limit what you can do "later" with that LargeCar..IE"custom sleeper", Then, I'd go with a Detroit Series 60 with a 13speed or super10,
the right rears- super singles, all alum rims, the fairings you mentioned, rim caps and remote tire pressure monitoring, Turbo 3000, centramatics,

Hey, if your're PLANNING on burnining all that FUEL at a high rate....a little more wind-resistance/ less aero-dynamics isn't gonna make that much difference on your bottom line.


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