Originally Posted by BigWheels

Gee...and I thought us LTL pick-up & delivery guys had it the worst! :roll: :wink: :P :lol:

Originally Posted by Odie

I have done P&D also. It isnt a cake walk by any means. That is if you live in any kind of metro area of course. I have ran P&D in the DC Metro area. It sucks throughly. :evil:

Originally Posted by Ian Williams

How long did you do it for? Just as with OTR, LTL P&D has a certain learning curve. It took me a good 6months before I knew the quirks, in & outs of most of our customers.

Once you are up on the curve its not bad at all. Traffic can still be frustrating, but when you're on the clock it takes a lot of the edge off.

Originally Posted by Odie

I was in LTL for 6 years and I did P&D for 1 year of it. There is no learning curve to hauling multiple skids of whatever up 6 flights. Like I said, this was the DC metro area. Now, when I worked for Conway, my terminal was in a more rural location and once in a while I would fill in on P&D. There it was not bad at all. It is all in the Delivery area.

Hey Ian, I see you are in NOVA. Where at exactly if you dont mind me asking. I am in the area also.

Originally Posted by Ian Williams

....Unless the customer pays through the nose for inside delivery our responsibility stops at the end of the trailer....

Originally Posted by Ian Williams

So you were stuck in hand muck hell.

Thats not so much LTL as lumping. Unless the customer pays through the nose for inside delivery our responsibility stops at the end of the trailer.

Except for our one straight truck with a lift gate we don't see all that much hand muck at my barn.

Originally Posted by BigWheels

I am oh so happy that a lot of customers without a dock don't want to pay through the nose for inside delivery! :D :D :D

Originally Posted by Odie

I always told them for me to bring it in it would cost this much (I would inflate the number hoping they would not go for inside delivery). I just seemed to have back luck I guess???? LOL!

Originally Posted by Odie

For the most part in my career (10 years) I have pondered this also. I have worked 6 years in LTL (Con-way, Averitt) and it was great pay, home every day, and great benefits. I must say that now I work for a big OTR company but, I work on a dedicated account where I can be home everyday or, I can run the wheels off the truck if I want to. Actually, the money is better now than it was in LTL plus, I get a nice truck to drive but, I like to run hard and I guarntee I am in the minority.

Quite honestly, IMO most OTR drivers are not cut out for LTL. I am not going to lie about it, LTL is harder work by far than a big OTR company and the vast majority of drivers I have had contact with do not want to work hard and heavens forbid they get any excercise on the job doing work. They want to make the big money but, they dont want to put forth the effort it takes to make that kind of cheese. Actually, most drivers that work the account that I do dont make the big money becasue they dont want to work for it. They are satisfied with their $500-$700 bring home a week where, I am doing between $1100-$1500 bring home every week. In alot of cases I would wager to say you can make good money with a OTR company but, you have to work for it and go into the job initially and establish a reputation of a driver that likes to run and can be trusted to get it done for them. IMO, most drivers dont fall into this catagory. IN OTR there is too much opportunity to slack off and waste time so, most take full advantage of it. In LTL this is not the case for the companies I have worked for. You will be required to work like a dog but, everyone makes good money.

Originally Posted by ssoutlaw

Do you know how much money you would have to make to BRING HOME 1500.00 a week, get some NEW stories!!!!!!!!!
Talk about inflated numbers....lol