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Mr. Ford95 05-26-2011 10:31 PM

OSU football
 
Yet another former OSU player under Tressel has come out and openly stated that everyone on the team was selling rings, jersey's and whatever else they could to get deals on apartments and cars. He even went on to say that the school knew all about it, it was no big secret. It appears that they have a huge problem in Columbus that could get even bigger. Should the hammer be dropped on them like it was for SMU?

Mr. Ford95 05-28-2011 12:21 PM

Said player has now recanted most of his story as being untrue and words put into his mouth by an OSU campus newspaper. The paper stands by it's story and says they put it in print word for word off the recorder used to do the interview. Sounds like someone close to the program jumped him over going public with the truth. Why would the school's own paper give out false info that could really hurt everyone publicly?

Mr. Ford95 05-30-2011 01:11 PM

Coach Tressel has resigned with mounting allegations/scandals. Chicken, ran off like Ron Meyer pulled just before SMU got socked.

ronjon619 05-30-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95 (Post 498376)
Coach Tressel has resigned with mounting allegations/scandals. Chicken, ran off like Ron Meyer pulled just before SMU got socked.

there has to be more coming.........he jumped ship before all the dirt comes out.

Mr. Ford95 05-30-2011 03:42 PM

I think he got blindsided while on vacation with his wife. He returned yesterday and suddenly he was meeting with OSU. What changed while he was gone, a former player went public on how everyone knew all about what was going on. I think we still see some penalties, the question is how tough will they be? OSU AD Gene Smith has friends on the NCAA Infractions Committee that he was/is a part of. A big school like OSU needs a reminder and it would provide a real good example to the other big boys if OSU is hit with the 2 year ban of football. They sort of got everyone's attention with USC, time to further the education by dropping a bigger bomb on OSU to show how serious the NCAA is.

robertt 05-31-2011 12:48 PM

I personally would like to see them send Pryor down the river. He was so cocky and was such an AZZ coming out of High School. Now, I hope they DO give them the death penalty. You can't have that many people involved in something like that and NOT have it leak out. Here are a couple of interesting articles, sorry if you have read them already.

Jim Tressel has resigned from Ohio State after 10 seasons - ESPN

Report: NCAA launches separate probe of Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor - ESPN

Jackrabbit379 05-31-2011 07:03 PM

I haven't been keeping up with the OSU news. Then, I heard about Tressel resigning all of a sudden. That throws a little fuel in the fire. :lol: I wonder what's going to happen next. Football program going to get suspended? President going to get suspended/fired? I believe Tressel knew that he was about to get in deep water, so he got out.

robertt 05-31-2011 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379 (Post 498443)
I haven't been keeping up with the OSU news. Then, I heard about Tressel resigning all of a sudden. That throws a little fuel in the fire. :lol: I wonder what's going to happen next. Football program going to get suspended? President going to get suspended/fired? I believe Tressel knew that he was about to get in deep water, so he got out.

They will have to start calling it, "Pulling a Pete Carroll!":smokin:

Mr. Ford95 05-31-2011 09:03 PM

Lot of fans suspect this is just the tip of the iceberg, Tressel running off. He did the same at Youngstown St, left as they were getting into hot water. I would sincerely hope that no future team ever hire a coach who runs off before their former school is sanctioned, whether it be the NFL or NCAA. It keeps happening and it needs to be stopped by teams not hiring these type of coaches. Great job Tressel, way to preach integrity, heck even wrote a book on it, and not follow it. Nice intro speech to the students and fans when he was officially introduced as the coach. Something along the lines of, "These student-athletes will be student-athletes you can be very proud of under my tenure, on the field or off the field." I bet the OSU fans are so dang proud right now, bet they will be really proud if the death penalty comes. With the Feds involved this isn't as simple as the SMU scandal, this is worse. 2nd time the Feds have been involved with a Tressel team.

As for Pryor, makes you wonder why PSU didn't get him to stay home. Can't compete with a school offering cars, apartments and cash money while your offering them a chance to play and get an education. JoePa would have already sent him packing I believe. I say he is gone along with the other 4 players that were suspended now to the NFL Supplemental Draft coming up. It's too bad if that happens, the NCAA will be left with egg on their face and I bet they really drop the hammer on OSU.

robertt 05-31-2011 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. Ford95 (Post 498450)
lot of fans suspect this is just the tip of the iceberg, tressel running off. He did the same at youngstown st, left as they were getting into hot water. I would sincerely hope that no future team ever hire a coach who runs off before their former school is sanctioned, whether it be the nfl or ncaa. It keeps happening and it needs to be stopped by teams not hiring these type of coaches. Great job tressel, way to preach integrity, heck even wrote a book on it, and not follow it. Nice intro speech to the students and fans when he was officially introduced as the coach. Something along the lines of, "these student-athletes will be student-athletes you can be very proud of under my tenure, on the field or off the field." i bet the osu fans are so dang proud right now, bet they will be really proud if the death penalty comes. With the feds involved this isn't as simple as the smu scandal, this is worse. 2nd time the feds have been involved with a tressel team.

As for pryor, makes you wonder why psu didn't get him to stay home. Can't compete with a school offering cars, apartments and cash money while your offering them a chance to play and get an education. Joepa would have already sent him packing i believe. I say he is gone along with the other 4 players that were suspended now to the nfl supplemental draft coming up. It's too bad if that happens, the ncaa will be left with egg on their face and i bet they really drop the hammer on osu.

DITTO:thumbsup:

Jackrabbit379 06-01-2011 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by robertt (Post 498446)
They will have to start calling it, "Pulling a Pete Carroll!":smokin:

:rofl:
That's a good way to put it. :thumbsup:

robertt 06-01-2011 08:39 PM

Our local sports radio station, (The Sports Animal), was going over a list this morning of other coaches who had done basically the same thing Tressell has, not just football but basketball, baseball, mens and womens, Holy mackarel! It is a long and distinguished list. I don't remember most of the names but a lot of "known" names were on it.

One of them I'm sure your familiar with Rabbit was Ron Meyer, who left SMU just before they got the Death Penalty and got an NFL Head Coaching job. I knew Tressell wasn't alone but I had no idea the list was that long.

Mr. Ford95 06-01-2011 09:53 PM

Ron Meyer was an early Jim Tressel or Pete Carroll. Nice guys, players always liked them but behind closed doors they were some super conniving son of a guns. Everyone always said, "Dang Meyer can flat recruit" but it turned out he was cheating the system better than the others at the time.

Heck, Meyer was the one who ordered the snow plow driver to go clear a path for his kicker in the infamous "SnowPlow Game" while he was the coach for the Patriots. Think he wasn't always dreaming up some way to cheat? Of course the team mutinied on him 2 years later. He always had one heck of an offensive scheme but once teams figured it out after 1 season of seeing it, it was useless in the NFL.

robertt 06-02-2011 12:00 AM

And now the snowball starts to get bigger as it is going to gain speed going down the hill. I can't imagine what is going to "come about" from other players down the road.

Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor driving privileges suspended in Ohio - ESPN

Mr. Ford95 06-02-2011 09:53 AM

I just love how his HS school coach is defending him, waiting for him to trot out the line of, "It's cuz he's black ain't it?" Seeing more and more come out about Pryor, no way does he stay now, he's going to bolt.

robertt 06-02-2011 11:24 AM

When they were recruiting him, (Pryor), he was talking smack about how great he was going to be, and how they were going to be naming streets after him and retiring his jersey wherever he played, he was a real jerk, not that he's alone. It's a shame, he COULD have been one of the ALL time greats. He has ton's of talent and IS/WAS a great player. Somebody will take a chance on him just because of his talent. What the H*LL, he's probably leaving, going to make ton's of money, what does he care how he's remembered or leaving a descent legacy, AKA Reggie Bush.

Mr. Ford95 06-08-2011 08:09 PM

And Pryor has bolted OSU. He is looking to get drafted in the NFL's Supplemental Draft if it happens or possibly head to the CFL or UFL if it doesn't happen. My thoughts on his decision, bad choice to skip out on the punishment when things got tough. That does not look good to NFL teams. It shows your not a leader and a QB is supposed to be a leader. I'm thinking he will be lucky to simply sign on as a free agent to the practice squad of an NFL team, he's gonna have to prove himself.

robertt 06-12-2011 11:18 AM

How many times have you seen a situation like this turning out good? It will be a miracle IF he even makes a team, I don't care how talented he is. His youth and attitude are working against him, IMHO

Mr. Ford95 06-12-2011 11:22 PM

Outside The Lines on ESPN had a nice story about this mess. This is definitely the tip of the iceberg if all the info they gave out is true. The Talbott guy told ESPN that the former "friend" of Pryor was wrong on his info only to have OTL show that the friend was 100% correct via eBay.

ironeagle_2006 06-13-2011 01:05 PM

Can you say No OSU for at least 5 Years. That is what a couple people I know are saying at another Big 10 School. The NCAA is going to make a HUGE example of of OSU and then tell the other Powerhouse schools we are going to come in and go over everything at your schools and we see anything close to what they had your getting the same thing. They are so sick of crap like this happening. They are also sick of of the ONE and DONE Colledge Basketball players.

Mr. Ford95 06-13-2011 09:04 PM

Well the NCAA says the Death Penalty has been shelved after how bad it hurt SMU in football. I really think this is the perfect chance to bring it back out and see how it works on a real Big Boy school. Look at all the teams that have been "severely" punished since the 90's, Bama was twice given a severe penalty, both times they have bounced back. Miami was given what was considered overly harsh penalties, they bounced back within 3 years. Reducing scholarships and bowl bans do nothing because these schools are too big. That would really hurt the smaller schools like Boise was a few years ago when they were fighting to get on TV any chance they could. SMU was a small school trying to make the leap to the big boys when they got hammered. No true biggie has ever gotten the DP.

I don't see OSU losing football for 5 years, I would like to see them lose it per the DP for 2 years but it's doubtful right now that happens. Instead they will probably end up losing most all of their scholarships over the next 5 years, Bowl ban and possibly a 2 year TV ban. They get 85 scholarships to give out, if they lose half of those it still isn't a big deal for OSU. They get a lot of in-state players, tuition to OSU is nothing if your from Ohio so having to pay your way and be considered a walk-on wouldn't be a big deal to most of their recruits. They could then save the scholarships for the out of state players they want. Wonder if the NCAA is aware of that little nugget. The TV ban is a bad deal not just for OSU but for anyone else they play who normally would play on TV, they will also be affected if they play OSU.

robertt 06-16-2011 08:57 PM

Well.......no matter what happens, the people that truly deserve the punishment are going to either end up getting off scott free or they will end up millionares. Their ought to be some way of going after the folks that are the main ones that cause the problems in the first place. It's just a sign of the times that their is "0" accountability in the world today. Pryor, Tressell and the others will be able to stand off in the background and watch the house of cards fall.

Mr. Ford95 07-08-2011 10:45 PM

OSU has made a last ditch Hail Mary to try and avoid the most severe penalty that will be handed down since the SMU Death Penalty. They will vacate all 12 victories from last season. Wonder if that means they will mail Arkansas the Sugar Bowl trophy and make the players give back anything they got for being Big Ten and Sugar Bowl champs?

Mr. Ford95 07-23-2011 01:46 PM

OSU will survive, no death penalty coming. The NCAA stated Friday that OSU had not lost institutional control so they would avoid the harshest of penalties possible. In other news, LSU avoided getting penalized because their compliance office actually did something with a player who may have been ineligible. They even stated that had it not been for some good compliance office questioning, LSU would have gotten a pretty good penalty. OSU did not do that, they pretended to investigate the charges while the school begged the NCAA to allow the 5 players to play in the Sugar Bowl.

robertt 07-27-2011 01:17 AM

Pryor's arrogance will be his final undoing, it has already cost him his college career. I had stated before his arrogance coming out of high school was unprecedented, for me anyway. He has played a big part in what happened at OSU and now he's running from it. I just can't see him succeding in the NFL. They will make mince meat out of him. Maybe I'm wrong and if I am I'll be the first to admit it. I will be the first to admit the guy has ALL the talent in the world. He reminds me of Vince Young when he was in college. Tacklers just seem to fall off of him like it's nothing, that has always amazed me when players can make it look that easy. What a shame.

Ohio State bans Terrelle Pryor for five years, says he couldn't play in '11 season - ESPN

Mr. Ford95 07-27-2011 08:18 PM

I agree, I think his arrogance will get the best of him. I would not be surprised to see him come out after whatever penalties are handed down and tell all about it to rub some more egg on the NCAA's face. The only thing that would surprise me is if he keeps quiet until the limitations run out then spill the beans. Remember though, some of this stuff has been traced back as far as 2003, well before Pryor came along.

He plays like Vince Young but his attitude is different than Young's coming out of school. Young became a lot more arrogant after he got to the NFL, Pryor was already there going into school, just like Maurice Clarett. He was caught at the start of classes in his Freshman year skipping class by Tressel himself. The boy was already talking about the NFL before he had even played 1 game at OSU.

Mr. Ford95 10-03-2011 10:52 PM

So it seems OSU is still having trouble keeping their players out of trouble. This just continues to show they have lost all institutional control which should be the Death Penalty:
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Ohio State is in trouble with the NCAA again, this time because three Buckeyes players—including two who have already been sitting out for taking cash and free tattoos—accepted too much money for too little work in their summer jobs.

Athletic Director Gene Smith insisted at a Monday afternoon news conference that there was no “systemic” problem at Ohio State, which has admitted to having several players involved in different NCAA violations over the past 10 months.

He blamed it all on the athletes, former coach Jim Tressel and a booster who on Monday was banned from further contact with the Buckeyes.
What in the world is he smoking? 2 of them were already in trouble before this summer job incident and yet again they broke the rules, it's a school problem. I cannot believe his arrogance just because he used to be a part of the NCAA.

3 Ohio State players suspended for Nebraska game - College Football - Rivals.com


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