I drove for schneider for 2 years and we could not split the sleeptime. I here you can, is it possible to sleep 5 drive 5 sleep five legally? were can I find log book rules in easy to understand english?

Once again, try GOOGLE:lol:







Or you could just click here:Hours-of-Service Regulations - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

You can split it, but it has to be atleast eight and two, and the two counts against your 14.

Chuck has it right. The 5 and 5, 4 and 6, etc splits went away in '03 when the current regulations came into being. The only option of a split is 8 and 2. Only the 8 stops the clock. I use this all the time. 2 hours at a dock or elsewhere waiting is the 2, then I only take a 8 hr sleeper later on.

8 & 2 or 2 & 8,

the eight has to be totally in the sleeper & STOPS the 14hr clock.

the 2 can be off-duty, sleeper or combo of the two -- 14hr clock doesn't stop during this break.

Watch out in 2010-- if you're caught doing a 2 & your "supporting documents" i.e. BOL+Sat have you at Shipper or Consignee-- they'll nail you.

you might still get away with 8hrs in the sleeper at a consignee or shipper- as long as your company doesn't have the brake valves hooked up to the satellite to tattle tail on you.

The main thing you need to worry about when you split the clock is to not driver past your 11 hours before you take your complete 10 hour sleeper break. If you do then you will be in violation.

In my observations from doing a lot of split logging is that I butt up against the 14hr clock more than I do the 11hr but you do have to be careful either way.

Please explain and/or elaborate on this for those of us who still "just don't get it."

Because the way it is worded, it seems to be in conflict with the regs concerning SPLIT logging.

It can be somewhat confusing. I think the way we could previously split our clock was much easier to understand and work with than the new ones.

You must take a 10 hour break before driving past the 11 driving or 14 total on duty. For instance, if you drive for 10 hours and take a 8 hour break then drive 2 hours you will be in violation since you have not taken your entire 10 hour break. However, if you drive 10 hours, go into the sleeper for 8 hours you can only drive 1 more hour before having to stop to take the 2 hour minimum rest break. Once you take the 2 hours you have completed your 10 hour sleeper berth requirement and you now have 11 hours of driving time again. You cannot go past the 11 hours driving or 14 hours on duty before taking the entire 10 hour sleeper berth break, whether you split it or not. Some carriers want drivers to take the complete 10 hour break to avoid them being in violation.

If you do split your sleeper berth one of your breaks MUST be for 8 hours. The second must be for a minimum of 2 hours. You can go over 2 hours but the second break must be for at least 2 hours. We are required to take a 10 hour sleeper berth break. You just need to be careful.

I wish we could just sleep when we get tired and not have to worry about the logs. I can't sleep 8 hours. If I do then I get groggy and feel as though I have a hang over. My average sleep time is about 5-6 hours. That is all that I need. There are some people who may need 8-10 hours of sleep. This is where the hours of service has a real problem. We all have a different body clock. They want to have a cookie cutter approach to sleep time. I have to find ways in which to kill a few hours in order to comply with the current regs. When we could split the sleeper berth more evenly I was more rested.

I'm the same way - I'm usually good after 5-6 hours, but then i get tired again in another 5-6.