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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
This is one of the dumbest statements you've ever said on this site, golfhobo. The FMCSA makes no distinction between owner operators and company drivers when it comes to the HOS regulations. There is no "assumption" for one that does not apply to the other. You are talking out of your ass, and spreading some serious misinformation.:roll:
I made no such "assumption," Rev. I don't know WHY the regs sometimes DO make statements about O/O's as compared to company drivers, but they DO!
I don't feel like quoting right now, but the regs DO say, in effect, that a
company driver going to a local motel
OR an O/O using his truck in an OFF DUTY status, can log line 1 and be "outside the scope" of the alcohol prohibition reg. "I" didn't make that distinction.... THEY did!
I take that as an "assumption" on their part that a company driver is not likely to take his truck home for the weekend. Now... we ALL know that this can happen, but they seem to think - or speak - with a different "assumption."
It seems to ME that they are "assuming" that an O/O might take his truck home for the weekend, whereas... a company driver would ONLY be making a short trip to a motel or such. Can YOU explain WHY they think this is true?
My point to Matcat was that they DO make this "erroneous" assumption, but the regs apply regardless.
If I FELT like it, I could post several examples of how the fmcsr's seem to MAKE such a distinction, while not really making any different rules. On THAT we agree.
And that is my point. IF the regs say an Owner of a truck can do certain things while off duty, then they ALSO say that a company driver can do the same. That is why I told Matcat that he was reading TOO much into the distinction.
THEY didn't say that an
O/O going to a motel would be outside the scope. They said a
COMPANY driver doing so would be...AND that an O/O who is OFF DUTY could do anything he wanted. WHY did THEY make that distinction?
I contend that it is because they CONSIDER the actions of a company driver to be different than that of an O/O. They are trying....very badly... to "tailor" their interpretations to those whom they are "reaching."
The simple FACT is..... both company drivers (UNLESS they have company rules governing their actions,) AND O/O's who are OFF DUTY, can LOG their driving time as OFF DUTY, AND carry unopened alcohol on the CMV if they want! (as long as they are unladen.)
Rev, this is about the 5th time that you have accused me of making the most STOOPID statement on this board that I have ever made. And EACH time, I have explained myself. WHEN will you learn to say something like.... " I don't quite understand what you are saying, Hobo. Could you clarify that?"
I don't say YOUR statements are STOOPID! And there are no TOS rules against you calling my statements STOOPID. But, there SHOULD be!
I really don't CARE, because I have less respect for you every time you open your mouth here, lately. And that is YOUR doing!
I once welcomed you as a worthy adversary. I'm beginning to believe that the honor was misplaced. And that, TOO, is YOUR doing!
Show me some respect, Rev. That's all I ask. And I will do the same. Attack the POST.... and NOT the POSTER! I heard that somewhere!
I believe I even read it in the TOS as YOU posted them.
Hobo
I'm SURE you will SAY that you were attacking my post and not ME. But, I don't BUY it! I took it as a personal attack. You can HIDE behind the "spirit" of the TOS if you want, but your intentions are clear.