Wow. :shock:
I do believe I will take the gloves off for this one, seeing as everyone claims to be an adult. Therefore, an adult response should be warranted, eh?
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By far the only reason I visit here. Sad how often overzealous moderators destroy forums unwittingly.
LOL! Now that's a good one. Overzealous mods?!? On this board?!? You, of the TWO posts, are certain of that? :lol: :lol: :lol:
You should compare the moderating on this board to the moderating on some of the other major boards. Overzealous is not something we even come close to. We are laid back and try to treat the members as adults. That has been the philosophy of this board ever since Jeff started it and we've adherred to it as much as possible without letting the board go under.
I'll clarify, too, that some of you need to grow a thicker skin. I field ongoing PM's and e-mails from people that think that someone disagreeing with them equates to insults. News flash...it does not. Disagreeing with you, even sharp disagreements, does not constitute an insult. But constantly throwing personal attacks and insults at individual posters and poster's families, DOES constitute an insult and is a violation of the T.O.S. We know that biting commentary is going to happen at times, but as mods, it is our hope that those insults don't get out of hand. Usually they don't. There are times, though, when it gets to be too much and we either step in or field a PM from someone to step in and end it, which we do.
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So many things have happened to me that I won't post but other people would find it interesting. We have 7 moderators of which most never log in at all and those that do, well, they do nothing to moderate. Time for a change of the guard.
And this is about as rich as it gets. This from a guy that has loads of business sense, but doesn't seem to grasp the fact that sharing his hobby trucker exploits will invite criticizing comments along with the praise he seeks.
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Just to clue you in...this board does not revolve around you. You happen to be the flavor of the month, but your participation or lack thereof is not what fires the boilers that run this thing. Whether you stay or leave will mean nothing to the long-term existence of the board. It existed a long time before you showed up and you leaving will contribute nothing to its demise.
Sure, your hobby trucker experience garners interest. Even I have perused some of the things that you have gone through because I found the reading to be interesting. Where you fall short, though, is in letting people that disagree with you get under your skin. Instead of ignoring them, as you should, or rebutting them professionally, you 'fight' back, trying to one-up your detractors. When that happens, interest wanes and the whole thing degenerates into a mud slinging campaign. What's this...three threads of yours now that have been locked down? I would think someone with the business savy that you have, would recognize the pattern and move to fix it.
For your information, the issue that a lot of these guys have with you is the hobby trucker mentality that you display. What works for you, works for you because of your financial setup and business sense. It won't work for the majority of the would-be owner operators out there and you have been called on it many times and rightfully so. Why you seem to think that's a personal attack on you and warrants nasty responses, I still don't know.
You need to realize that half the problem with this industry is guys getting into it with stars in their eyes and dreams of huge dollars, their own fast shiny truck, and being knights on the highway. It simply does not work that way. Sure, lightning strikes now and then and someone enjoys good success like you have, but overall it's a hard, tough occupation with lots of hours, lots of hard work, and an extremely large washout rate.
You can continue to post your exploits and that is all find and dandy, but expect to have people like Rev and BD and others call you on it and present the other side of the coin. When that happens, you can either rebute them professionally or ignore it. Their input into your threads are just as relevant to your own.
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Now, with all that said, let me put this as succinctly as possible and see if everyone else can understand this.
This board is free for you. It is in place, paid for out of Jeff's (CAD) pocket. There are just a few of us that moderate it. Some of those names you see on the moderating list are owners and tech people that rely on us to keep things running smoothly. We do it and we also do it for free. This board EXISTS today because those few of us that moderate it have stated in the past that the board should remain open and running. The discussion to have it shut down has happened several times in the past. It's still here. It's here because we have lobbied for it to remain. Yet, you have absolutey ZERO idea what it takes for those few of us to keep things running smoothly.
I've been moderating this board for a number of years now and I've found that for the most part, the majority of the posters here are and can be decent. There are some, though, that skate the thin ice quite often and because we assume that there are adults behind the log-in ID's, we tend to let some things slide, hoping that an 'adult' can see fit to steer a conversation back in the right direction. In the past, that has worked more times than not. Minor tiffs happen and usually get worked out with maybe a warning here or there. Sometimes, it does not work and a thread gets locked down.
Regarding the thread in question, it was locked because it had moved beyond the minor tiffs and into personal insults that are a violation of the T.O.S. and it will NOT be reopened. Some of those insults have been removed, too, leading to your questions on WHY. Suffice it to say that I went through a few of them, found merit in the complaints, and locked down the thread.
In the end, it has nothing to do with haters. It has to do with some people that cannot move beyond third grade insults and feel they need to be king of the playground. That doesn't come from the moderating end...that comes from the posters end. The FIX sounds pretty simple to me.
