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I don't know about UPS but I know several FedEx drivers that use these illegal radios.
Second point looking at the front panel of some of these radios one would have to know quite a bit about these radios to spot the illegal units. Companies are not going to spend several hundred dollars on a power measurement unit just to check for illegal radios. Plus, train several people on how to use this unit.
Looking at the band plan for 10 meters for 28.085 AM (as published by the ARRL) it appears to be a CW, RTTY, data portion of the band. If that is true then a couple of questions.
1. Why would this ham use such poor receiver to receive a CW signal. I sure wouldn't use 3.5 KHz receiver to receive a CW signal. And if he was able to the trucker it had to be a wide band receiver. Plus why would a ham not have a BFO turned on if he was receiving CW.
Clarify "poor" receiver. I am thinking, judging by what he told me, he was listening on AM to verify the signal he was receiving, then switching to CW to send out a general call and listening for responses on CW. If a truck was transmitting, especially from very close, he would get a huge carrier, right? That way he knew it was an illegal signal since the trucker wasn't even supposed to be there to start with.
2. As I read the band plan the ham was just as illegal as these truckers.
How so? The ham was licensed to operate CW, was transmitting on CW, was ON the CW portion of the band and, therefore, perfectly legal. There is NO illegality in transmitting a CQ to OTHER LICENSED stations irregardless of the presence of an ILLEGAL station that has no business being there to start with. If it "bothers" said illegal station, too bad: he has no status under the law, thus no protection from the operations of legal stations. He is not even supposed to BE there to start with!
(Re: Riley Hollingsworth who addresed this issue previously)
I have to wonder if this ham has the proper class license to operate in this portion of the band. And if he knows how to used his radio correctly.
I can assure you that the ham has the highest class of license and was first licensed in 1955. He knows more about operating a radio than almost any two hams put together! :wink: I mean he has BUILT, serviced, and repaired more ham radios than I have sand in my shoes at the beach! Again, the purpose of sending out a CQ to another LEGAL station was to determine if the AM signal he was hearing was, indeed, the particular vehicle he was observing. There is nothing illegal or improper in doing so. If he received a reply from another legal station, then he would've engaged in a QSO with him. If not---and it turned out there was no reply----then he knew that the truck was transmitting on 28.085 AM and, therefore, breaking the law. My friend did nothing wrong and I, for one applaud his actions. We will be reading about that company soon!
kc0iv
Originally Posted by kc0iv
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RH told me directly that, for one thing, they ARE working on some things to combat these things coming up onto the ham band, and that the companies are quite cooperative once they find out that these things are illegal and don't belong in trucks. A simple internal memo often does the trick; namely telling the drivers that they may only install a 40 channel, FCC-certified CB radio in their tractors. Finding anything else (save the driver being licensed) would result in termination. UPS and FedEx supposedly has such a policy. I mean, there is no reason for a company NOT to institute such a policy since the presence of something that gets FCC's attention is not something they are willing to defend
Problem RR is that most companies give lip services and that's all. Originally Posted by RadioRay
RH told me directly that, for one thing, they ARE working on some things to combat these things coming up onto the ham band, and that the companies are quite cooperative once they find out that these things are illegal and don't belong in trucks. A simple internal memo often does the trick; namely telling the drivers that they may only install a 40 channel, FCC-certified CB radio in their tractors. Finding anything else (save the driver being licensed) would result in termination. UPS and FedEx supposedly has such a policy. I mean, there is no reason for a company NOT to institute such a policy since the presence of something that gets FCC's attention is not something they are willing to defend
I don't know about UPS but I know several FedEx drivers that use these illegal radios.
Second point looking at the front panel of some of these radios one would have to know quite a bit about these radios to spot the illegal units. Companies are not going to spend several hundred dollars on a power measurement unit just to check for illegal radios. Plus, train several people on how to use this unit.
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As an aside, a ham friend told me he was traveling recently when he monitored two trucks traveling together and jabbering on 28.085 AM. So he sent out a legal CQ to other legal stations. The lead tractor figured that he was the one doing it and told him "Awright, li'l blue car, ya better stop messin' up our 'trucker's channel' like that"! I wonder how that driver is going to feel when he gets that letter!!!!!! It is kinda funny if you think about it!!!! :P
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RR
Yes RR I find it really funny. But not for the reason you think.As an aside, a ham friend told me he was traveling recently when he monitored two trucks traveling together and jabbering on 28.085 AM. So he sent out a legal CQ to other legal stations. The lead tractor figured that he was the one doing it and told him "Awright, li'l blue car, ya better stop messin' up our 'trucker's channel' like that"! I wonder how that driver is going to feel when he gets that letter!!!!!! It is kinda funny if you think about it!!!! :P
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RR
Looking at the band plan for 10 meters for 28.085 AM (as published by the ARRL) it appears to be a CW, RTTY, data portion of the band. If that is true then a couple of questions.
1. Why would this ham use such poor receiver to receive a CW signal. I sure wouldn't use 3.5 KHz receiver to receive a CW signal. And if he was able to the trucker it had to be a wide band receiver. Plus why would a ham not have a BFO turned on if he was receiving CW.
Clarify "poor" receiver. I am thinking, judging by what he told me, he was listening on AM to verify the signal he was receiving, then switching to CW to send out a general call and listening for responses on CW. If a truck was transmitting, especially from very close, he would get a huge carrier, right? That way he knew it was an illegal signal since the trucker wasn't even supposed to be there to start with.
2. As I read the band plan the ham was just as illegal as these truckers.
How so? The ham was licensed to operate CW, was transmitting on CW, was ON the CW portion of the band and, therefore, perfectly legal. There is NO illegality in transmitting a CQ to OTHER LICENSED stations irregardless of the presence of an ILLEGAL station that has no business being there to start with. If it "bothers" said illegal station, too bad: he has no status under the law, thus no protection from the operations of legal stations. He is not even supposed to BE there to start with!
(Re: Riley Hollingsworth who addresed this issue previously)
I have to wonder if this ham has the proper class license to operate in this portion of the band. And if he knows how to used his radio correctly.
I can assure you that the ham has the highest class of license and was first licensed in 1955. He knows more about operating a radio than almost any two hams put together! :wink: I mean he has BUILT, serviced, and repaired more ham radios than I have sand in my shoes at the beach! Again, the purpose of sending out a CQ to another LEGAL station was to determine if the AM signal he was hearing was, indeed, the particular vehicle he was observing. There is nothing illegal or improper in doing so. If he received a reply from another legal station, then he would've engaged in a QSO with him. If not---and it turned out there was no reply----then he knew that the truck was transmitting on 28.085 AM and, therefore, breaking the law. My friend did nothing wrong and I, for one applaud his actions. We will be reading about that company soon!
kc0iv
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