So just like other kinds of real, hard work, you'd insist that illegal aliens do it? Americans are getting to soft and stupid to care about their own country too..

How did you come up with that Fozzy? are we reading into things now? I though women did that! :lol:

It is simple, they want in--make them prove their worth! What does that have to do with insisting that illegal aliens doing hard work. I made no such claim. Read what I said again, and don't try to make something mean what you want it to mean.

If an a person of another country want here, there is nothing wrong with what I said, and I think and maybe I am wrong, but it should weed out the one's who are to harm.

We have a butt load of illegals in this country, and more comming in every day. We can I believe stop it. and be able to use a filter for those who just might bring something good to this country, and in turn be able to become an American.

Or we can just shut down the border's and blow away anything that moves. And not let anyone in.

It is simple, they want in--make them prove their worth!

it was mainly the old "put them in the Army" bilge that irritates me! It usually comes from someone who has never been or is to self important to serve themselves. This country has always insisted on the poor fighting their wars, now the supposed poor people here are already too lazy to do the work that these illegals coming here are taking and now under your great plan they are going to continue to sit around while the illegals take their place in a war that they are too lazy to fight?

What does that have to do with insisting that illegal aliens doing hard work. I made no such claim. Read what I said again, and don't try to make something mean what you want it to mean.

It means what it means, The illegals coming up here are not usually educated professionals.

If an a person of another country want here, there is nothing wrong with what I said, and I think and maybe I am wrong, but it should weed out the one's who are to harm.

The problem here is that for them taking up arms against OUR enemies, you'll let them slide on in? We are still a country with a military at war, this country has refused to even consider themselves to BE at war.

We have a butt load of illegals in this country, and more comming in every day. We can I believe stop it. and be able to use a filter for those who just might bring something good to this country, and in turn be able to become an American.

Or we can just shut down the border's and blow away anything that moves. And not let anyone in.

We as a nation has refused to do that. I would prefer a militarized border but the usual sources would soon be on the military as bad as they are on them now for Iraq. The President already is declared wrong for everything he says and does, do you think that if he cleared the shooting of men women and children at the border will be seen as positive? Something about shooting people who are basically not armed and simply looking to find a job to feed their kids doesn't really warrant the death penalty for most Americans. The pictures and the videos of the first few dead people and the whole plan would fall to hell. Do really think that any but the nuttiest people would condone the killing of people at the border? There are I'm sure technological ways of dealing with this. The hemispheric integration plans that some are working on COULD possibly mean that jobs would be created in their own countries.

Fozzy I thought I would never say this, but-- I have to agree.

I didn't think of it that way. Maybe we should hire them to build the wall's to keep them out :lol:

I have to step out of this debate, it is over my head :lol:

So I guess I will stick with questions!

Why can't the mexican Government, make there country better to live in?
They have from what I understand a good tourist buisness. Get ride of the drug runners and lords. pretty much crack down on crime. But would they do this?

The Drugs are another home grown issue that I do not blame the foreigners for in the least! This country is a drug vacuum. We as a country demand them and they are not available here. The drug runners are this country's fault pure and simple.

If you (not you specifically Slim) do or have ever taken illegal drugs, then welcome the illegals with open arms, because you invited them.

Why would I invite them to come here? There are no illegal drugs grown HERE for them to "pick."

I want them to stay in Mexico and grow my illegal drugs THERE! :wink:

Well like most American interests.. they don't want to pay for shipping.. :asta:

This thread is getting more interesting by the minute, but i still dont see how outsourcing our jobs to Mehicans :P would be a good thing...Truckers make up a large slice of the population trying to hold on to thier middle-class status and taking their loads and jobs wouldnt help us or the economy one bit. The only ones to profit from this are: (drumroll) :rock: THE TRUCKING COs. Our law makers arent gonna do a thing to stop this unless we make a lot of noise about it and let them know that if they sell us out for a lobbyists bucks we'll string them up by their 'cohones' then tar and feather them :P :asta: