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Wrong. He wants to subsidize non-working, non-taxpaying people for doing absolutely zilch. The people he wants to give a "tax refund" to do no pay income tax. It comes down to bribery in order to gain votes.
I am not talking about tax refunds to those who don't work. I am concerned with tax relief for the 95% who ARE working. If you are angry about child credits for those on welfare, I am WITH you. I have never liked this, but I might point out that it has continued throughout 8 years of the Bush dynasty.
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Wow. Didn't you learn from your dad that envy is one of the seven deadly sins? You really love the class warfare thing, don't you?
Well, I won't say that I don't envy the rich. Who wouldn't? But, I don't hate them because they are rich. I have a problem with giving them MORE when they don't need it and Bush is spending us into the poor house! As for class warfare? I read the posts on here that put down those who are disadvantaged as if it is all their fault, and I defend them. "I" am not the one that has reported in recent years that the middle class is becoming extinct. But, I DO see a danger if what they say is true. When and if we become ONLY the rich and the poor, and the backbone of our economy (the middle class) ceases to exist, then you may REALLY see some class warfare. But, it won't be of MY doing. So lighten up!
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Who does that? There are many, many cases of people in this country that came from poverty that made something of themselves. This is one of the only countries in the world where one can do such a thing. Again, with the class warfare hobo!
Yes, what you say is true. Wonderful success stories abound. Now.... find me ONE where the person did not receive some kind of help from the government in the form of small business loans, college grants, or other means. This is NOT your grandfather's country where a man can lift himself up by his bootstraps SIMPLY by dedicating himself to hard work.
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Oh, please do explain. This will be good.
Perhaps in another post. I fear the nuances of his statement might yet be beyond you.
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Capitalistic greed is actually what creates jobs.
Yeah, for the Hondurans, Chinese, and others! Please quote some real statistics on job creation under Bush.... and I'm not talking about the minimum wage jobs that replaced the high paying industrial ones we shipped overseas.
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Sorry guy, you get an "F" in economics.
If you say so. Still puts me ahead of McCain! :lol2:
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Name a better economic system and I'll give you a cookie.
I have never said there was a better economic system. But, that doesn't excuse the abuses of our own!
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The "working class" that you speak of pays 2.9% of all income tax collected.
Hmm.... I don't feel like googling this to challenge it. But, everything I've heard on here and elsewhere says that the richest 1 or 2% pay about 60% of the taxes. That leaves 40%. You'll have to show me how that equates to your claim of 2.9%.
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Your obvious envy of the rich definitely suggests otherwise. The poor do not pay taxes. Ever heard of the earned income tax credit? They already get a welfare payment! You should be happy!
I'm not happy about ANY of it! I am NO supporter of welfare for the poor OR the corporations! I HATE the earned income tax credit! I am a supporter of the welfare to WORK program.... but even THAT takes tax dollars to realize! I WISH I had all the answers for you (and all of us) Colts Fan! I would like to see poverty eliminated or at least reduced. I would like to see the welfare rolls substantially reduced. And I am NOT in favor of doing so simply by "redistributing" wealth! But, it has become abundantly clear, that the only party who really cares about solving the situation is the Dems. Your party seems only interested in condemning them for being slackers! Short of anhialation, what do YOU propose to do about the situation?
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For some people it's hard to determine condesension from actual wisdom. :roll2:
It would appear so.